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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#641 » by Ma10 » Fri Nov 24, 2023 7:35 am

A 3 point shooting big would be nice. I'm all in for Bogdanovic from the pistons for the right price. Even though, the better shooting big, who is also younger and cheaper is Isiah Stewart. How about him?
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Post#642 » by HarthorneWingo » Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:50 am

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Sengun is young, but even still his defense right now isn't bad which is a big positive. He's never going to be able to protect the rim, but the NBA is moving into a place where you need something on offense from your bigs whether it's spacing, scoring or passing. In his case he does all three, and he has the added bonus of being able to post up mismatches which is how you beat teams that always switch, you punish them for having the nerve to try and defend your big with some skinny 6'8" wing.

We have absolutely no chance of getting him too.

We should let Mitch post up mismatches.
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Post#643 » by HarthorneWingo » Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:52 am

Ma10 wrote:A 3 point shooting big would be nice. I'm all in for Bogdanovic from the pistons for the right price. Even though, the better shooting big, who is also younger and cheaper is Isiah Stewart. How about him?

Isaiah Stewart is a good shooter from 3? That’s news to me.
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Post#644 » by Ma10 » Fri Nov 24, 2023 10:17 am

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Ma10 wrote:A 3 point shooting big would be nice. I'm all in for Bogdanovic from the pistons for the right price. Even though, the better shooting big, who is also younger and cheaper is Isiah Stewart. How about him?

Isaiah Stewart is a good shooter from 3? That’s news to me.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/isaiah-stewart-3-point-percentage
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#645 » by Snacks » Fri Nov 24, 2023 12:33 pm

Ma10 wrote:
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Ma10 wrote:A 3 point shooting big would be nice. I'm all in for Bogdanovic from the pistons for the right price. Even though, the better shooting big, who is also younger and cheaper is Isiah Stewart. How about him?

Isaiah Stewart is a good shooter from 3? That’s news to me.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/isaiah-stewart-3-point-percentage


He's an emerging 3 point shooter - and he would be great on the Knicks but I don't think Detroit would trade him.
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Post#646 » by WargamesX » Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:00 pm

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HarthorneWingo wrote:Isaiah Stewart is a good shooter from 3? That’s news to me.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/isaiah-stewart-3-point-percentage


He's an emerging 3 point shooter - and he would be great on the Knicks but I don't think Detroit would trade him.


Yeah but let’s see, on the surface he and Cade are two guys who shouldn’t be moved, but Detroit is real bad.

History shows that a lot of bad teams with young players move those young players eventually. So a few of the good young Detroit players could end up on other teams as they franchise figures itself out.
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Post#647 » by DaGawd » Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:10 pm

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He's an emerging 3 point shooter - and he would be great on the Knicks but I don't think Detroit would trade him.


Yeah but let’s see, on the surface he and Cade are two guys who shouldn’t be moved, but Detroit is real bad.

History shows that a lot of bad teams with young players move those young players eventually. So a few of the good young Detroit players could end up on other teams as they franchise figures itself out.

i actually think duren makes stewart expendable
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Post#648 » by HopelessKnick » Fri Nov 24, 2023 3:39 pm

BTW has there ever been any credibility to Ingram wanting to leave the Pelicans? From my memory I recall him being very content there and intending to stay. Not signing an extension prematurely is no sign of him wanting to leave---he wants to collect as big a paycheck as possible.

I actually think he is the only untouchable in NO. They would much rather contemplate a Zion trade rather than an Ingram trade. I see his name being thrown around here and there but I gues it is only wishful thinking?
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Post#649 » by HopelessKnick » Fri Nov 24, 2023 3:57 pm

The funny thing about Perry's remarks..."getting a 3 that can create etc." ...if you look at the list of 3s that can create and pass...really no one is there that would be even remotely available....
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Post#650 » by KnixinSix » Fri Nov 24, 2023 4:39 pm

HopelessKnick wrote:The funny thing about Perry's remarks..."getting a 3 that can create etc." ...if you look at the list of 3s that can create and pass...really no one is there that would be even remotely available....


LaVine can play 3 , mostly 2 and a bit of 1. Hes a pretty decent passer and an average rebounder.

Randle, Grimes and Fournier for LaVine and Pat Williams . Pat Williams can hit the 3 and plays excellent defense so would be a big upgrade defensively to Randle there. IQ and DD provide strong complementary defense at the guard position to Brunson and LaVine.

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Post#651 » by HarthorneWingo » Fri Nov 24, 2023 5:03 pm

DaGawd wrote:
WargamesX wrote:
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He's an emerging 3 point shooter - and he would be great on the Knicks but I don't think Detroit would trade him.


Yeah but let’s see, on the surface he and Cade are two guys who shouldn’t be moved, but Detroit is real bad.

History shows that a lot of bad teams with young players move those young players eventually. So a few of the good young Detroit players could end up on other teams as they franchise figures itself out.

i actually think duren makes stewart expendable

So we’d trade iHart for him?
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Post#652 » by DaGawd » Fri Nov 24, 2023 5:11 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
DaGawd wrote:
WargamesX wrote:
Yeah but let’s see, on the surface he and Cade are two guys who shouldn’t be moved, but Detroit is real bad.

History shows that a lot of bad teams with young players move those young players eventually. So a few of the good young Detroit players could end up on other teams as they franchise figures itself out.

i actually think duren makes stewart expendable

So we’d trade iHart for him?

don’t think the pistons would go for that but i wouldn’t mind
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Post#653 » by HopelessKnick » Fri Nov 24, 2023 5:31 pm

KnixinSix wrote:
HopelessKnick wrote:The funny thing about Perry's remarks..."getting a 3 that can create etc." ...if you look at the list of 3s that can create and pass...really no one is there that would be even remotely available....


LaVine can play 3 , mostly 2 and a bit of 1. Hes a pretty decent passer and an average rebounder.

Randle, Grimes and Fournier for LaVine and Pat Williams . Pat Williams can hit the 3 and plays excellent defense so would be a big upgrade defensively to Randle there. IQ and DD provide strong complementary defense at the guard position to Brunson and LaVine.

Mitchell,I-Hart
Williams ,Hart
RJ, Hart, LaVine
LaVine, IQ, DD
Brunson, DD

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But why would you want a player here that has stated that he doesn't want to be here?
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#654 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Fri Nov 24, 2023 5:45 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Sengun is young, but even still his defense right now isn't bad which is a big positive. He's never going to be able to protect the rim, but the NBA is moving into a place where you need something on offense from your bigs whether it's spacing, scoring or passing. In his case he does all three, and he has the added bonus of being able to post up mismatches which is how you beat teams that always switch, you punish them for having the nerve to try and defend your big with some skinny 6'8" wing.

We have absolutely no chance of getting him too.

We should let Mitch post up mismatches.


2 problems with this, one he can't make freethrows so the smaller defender can foul him and secondly he has no post game or feel for playing that way.


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Post#655 » by 3toheadmelo » Fri Nov 24, 2023 5:51 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Sengun is young, but even still his defense right now isn't bad which is a big positive. He's never going to be able to protect the rim, but the NBA is moving into a place where you need something on offense from your bigs whether it's spacing, scoring or passing. In his case he does all three, and he has the added bonus of being able to post up mismatches which is how you beat teams that always switch, you punish them for having the nerve to try and defend your big with some skinny 6'8" wing.

We have absolutely no chance of getting him too.

We should let Mitch post up mismatches.


2 problems with this, one he can't make freethrows so the smaller defender can foul him and secondly he has no post game or feel for playing that way.


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Post#656 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Fri Nov 24, 2023 6:01 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:We should let Mitch post up mismatches.


2 problems with this, one he can't make freethrows so the smaller defender can foul him and secondly he has no post game or feel for playing that way.


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he not even sealing his man properly :lol:



You can literally see the wheels turning in his head when he catches the ball and there's that delay between the catch and move with no kind of shoulder fakes, shimmys or jabs. When you spend your entire summer playing Fortnite and you practice on the perimeter and shooting threes it's no wonder you have zero feel for the post game.
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Post#657 » by 3toheadmelo » Fri Nov 24, 2023 6:36 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
2 problems with this, one he can't make freethrows so the smaller defender can foul him and secondly he has no post game or feel for playing that way.


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he not even sealing his man properly :lol:



You can literally see the wheels turning in his head when he catches the ball and there's that delay between the catch and move with no kind of shoulder fakes, shimmys or jabs. When you spend your entire summer playing Fortnite and you practice on the perimeter and shooting threes it's no wonder you have zero feel for the post game.

Even Kevin seraphin has a better post game than him. Very sad folks.
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#658 » by WargamesX » Fri Nov 24, 2023 7:32 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:he not even sealing his man properly :lol:



You can literally see the wheels turning in his head when he catches the ball and there's that delay between the catch and move with no kind of shoulder fakes, shimmys or jabs. When you spend your entire summer playing Fortnite and you practice on the perimeter and shooting threes it's no wonder you have zero feel for the post game.

Even Kevin seraphin has a better post game than him. Very sad folks.


Mitch is a Tyson Chandler big. You don’t need him to post, you need him to defend. It looks like they are trying to expand his game to have some sort of post move….. Good. If it works he’ll be a better basketball player.
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Post#659 » by Snacks » Fri Nov 24, 2023 8:10 pm

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Hart or iHart and draft pick considerations


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Backup 3/4 + defender with size -on rookie contract that has shown the ability to knockdown 3's
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Post#660 » by HarthorneWingo » Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:46 pm

DaGawd wrote:
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DaGawd wrote:i actually think duren makes stewart expendable

So we’d trade iHart for him?

don’t think the pistons would go for that but i wouldn’t mind

We do have a bunch of draft picks.
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