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Galvationknicks · Post #1261 » by **Galvationknicks** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:16 am

Giddey is not released just being investigated. Girl was 15 @ the time. Giddey still should've never put himself in that situation.

Kidknick! · Post #1262 » by **Kidknick!** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:49 am

Galvationknicks wrote:Giddey is not released just being investigated. Girl was 15 @ the time. Giddey still should've never put himself in that situation.

He was exploring his inner Karl Malone...

HopelessKnick · Post #1263 » by **HopelessKnick** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:23 am

Towns has absolutely been killing it. He is a big reason as to why the Wolves are as good.

This is exactly what I mean in terms of "at some point the FO needs to take a risk"....all these players like Fox, SGA, Towns are some point where available and the FO passed on engaging in any talks about any of them...no all of them are on winning teams, playing great and pretty much untouchable.

At some point the FO needs to overpay on some guy that they believe can take that step or would be a great fit. There is not going to come any savior at the right moment, at the right price.....if you look at the landscape in terms of some players and positions...there is not that guy, let alone available.

Snacks · Post #1264 » by **Snacks** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 12:27 pm

HopelessKnick wrote:Towns has absolutely been killing it. He is a big reason as to why the Wolves are as good.

This is exactly what I mean in terms of "at some point the FO needs to take a risk"....all these players like Fox, SGA, Towns are some point where available and the FO passed on engaging in any talks about any of them...no all of them are on winning teams, playing great and pretty much untouchable.

At some point the FO needs to overpay on some guy that they believe can take that step or would be a great fit. There is not going to come any savior at the right moment, at the right price.....if you look at the landscape in terms of some players and positions...there is not that guy, let alone available.

How exactly does this apply to the knicks?
Nobody has yet spoken about trading Brunson - and are you implying that Randle, IQ, or Barret are on the level of Fox, SGA, and Towns?

3toheadmelo · Post #1265 » by **3toheadmelo** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 3:49 pm

jamal murray's impact is really underrated. jokic has not been able to win without him

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Richard4444 · Post #1266 » by **Richard4444** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 4:21 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:jamal murray's impact is really underrated. jokic has not been able to win without him

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They lack depth.

Post #1267 » by **Capn'O** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 4:26 pm

HopelessKnick wrote:Towns has absolutely been killing it. He is a big reason as to why the Wolves are as good.

This is exactly what I mean in terms of "at some point the FO needs to take a risk"....all these players like Fox, SGA, Towns are some point where available and the FO passed on engaging in any talks about any of them...no all of them are on winning teams, playing great and pretty much untouchable.

At some point the FO needs to overpay on some guy that they believe can take that step or would be a great fit. There is not going to come any savior at the right moment, at the right price.....if you look at the landscape in terms of some players and positions...there is not that guy, let alone available.

Yup. SGA would have always taken a massive haul but Fox and Towns value was depressed. We did make a great call on Brunson but it will take another risk like that to get us over the hump.

thebuzzardman · Post #1268 » by **thebuzzardman** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:09 pm

KnicksGadfly wrote:Magic getting much better after Perry leaves…
Are we next?!

No. That thought involves positivity.

MrDollarBills · Post #1269 » by **MrDollarBills** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:39 pm

Capn'O wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:With all the media attn on Hali & LaMelo, Fox's insane start to the season has kind of gone under the radar

Watch on YouTube

Fox this year

29.2 PPG 4.0 RPG 5.3 APG 1.7 SPG
48.7% on 21.2 FGA
36.7% on 8.8 3PA
75.0% on 7.1 FTA
56.3% EFG 60% TS

SGA too. He's been unstoppable and assisting more.

Clippers fans have to cringe when they see how he turned out. 30, 6 and 6 is top 5 level stuff

robillionaire · Post #1270 » by **robillionaire** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:43 pm

Capn'O wrote:
HopelessKnick wrote:Towns has absolutely been killing it. He is a big reason as to why the Wolves are as good.

This is exactly what I mean in terms of "at some point the FO needs to take a risk"....all these players like Fox, SGA, Towns are some point where available and the FO passed on engaging in any talks about any of them...no all of them are on winning teams, playing great and pretty much untouchable.

At some point the FO needs to overpay on some guy that they believe can take that step or would be a great fit. There is not going to come any savior at the right moment, at the right price.....if you look at the landscape in terms of some players and positions...there is not that guy, let alone available.

Yup. SGA would have always taken a massive haul but Fox and Towns value was depressed. We did make a great call on Brunson but it will take another risk like that to get us over the hump.

Brunson wasn’t much of a risk though, we signed him as a free agent to a cheap deal

HopelessKnick · Post #1271 » by **HopelessKnick** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:10 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:With all the media attn on Hali & LaMelo, Fox's insane start to the season has kind of gone under the radar

Watch on YouTube

Fox this year

29.2 PPG 4.0 RPG 5.3 APG 1.7 SPG
48.7% on 21.2 FGA
36.7% on 8.8 3PA
75.0% on 7.1 FTA
56.3% EFG 60% TS

SGA too. He's been unstoppable and assisting more.

Clippers fans have to cringe when they see how he turned out. 30, 6 and 6 is top 5 level stuff

The Clippers got really unlucky....I remember 3 years ago they had Lenard and PG going in the playoffs and it looked like they'd break through for the title...then Kawhi got injured against the Jazz and it went downhill from there. While Leonard has been injury prone forever, I think almost no one could have anticipated the ridiculous amount of injuries these two went through. In a reasonable estimate, if they had like 2-3 playoffs runs together healthy, I really think they would have had one title at least, maybe accompanied with a couple WCFs or so. Leonard and George were two elite two way all around wing players at that time. Frankly, a healthy Kawhi was probably the best player in the league and he would not have gone to the Clippers to play with SGA at that time. He requested PG.

As a Clipper fan I'd acknowledge that it did not work out unfortunately...but I wouldn't necessarily feel too bad about it...it was always the right thing to do. They had enough talent to win a title. Injuries prevented it...it could not have been foreseen to that extent...

HopelessKnick · Post #1272 » by **HopelessKnick** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:11 pm

Say, if you put a healthy Kawhi on the Knicks this season for a playoff run....I'd almost go as far as betting on the Knicks to come out of the east...he is that good.

Post #1273 » by **Capn'O** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:29 pm

HopelessKnick wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
SGA too. He's been unstoppable and assisting more.

Clippers fans have to cringe when they see how he turned out. 30, 6 and 6 is top 5 level stuff

The Clippers got really unlucky....I remember 3 years ago they had Lenard and PG going in the playoffs and it looked like they'd break through for the title...then Kawhi got injured against the Jazz and it went downhill from there. While Leonard has been injury prone forever, I think almost no one could have anticipated the ridiculous amount of injuries these two went through. In a reasonable estimate, if they had like 2-3 playoffs runs together healthy, I really think they would have had one title at least, maybe accompanied with a couple WCFs or so. Leonard and George were two elite two way all around wing players at that time. Frankly, a healthy Kawhi was probably the best player in the league and he would not have gone to the Clippers to play with SGA at that time. He requested PG.

As a Clipper fan I'd acknowledge that it did not work out unfortunately...but I wouldn't necessarily feel too bad about it...it was always the right thing to do. They had enough talent to win a title. Injuries prevented it...it could not have been foreseen to that extent...

100% that was a title team.

The injury timing was just terrible.

Post #1274 » by **Capn'O** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:31 pm

robillionaire wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
HopelessKnick wrote:Towns has absolutely been killing it. He is a big reason as to why the Wolves are as good.

This is exactly what I mean in terms of "at some point the FO needs to take a risk"....all these players like Fox, SGA, Towns are some point where available and the FO passed on engaging in any talks about any of them...no all of them are on winning teams, playing great and pretty much untouchable.

At some point the FO needs to overpay on some guy that they believe can take that step or would be a great fit. There is not going to come any savior at the right moment, at the right price.....if you look at the landscape in terms of some players and positions...there is not that guy, let alone available.

Yup. SGA would have always taken a massive haul but Fox and Towns value was depressed. We did make a great call on Brunson but it will take another risk like that to get us over the hump.

Brunson wasn’t much of a risk though, we signed him as a free agent to a cheap deal

Sure but we had to give up assets to get him and he then exceeded the reward projections of all but a few.

aggo · Post #1275 » by **aggo** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:39 pm

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sol537 · Post #1276 » by **sol537** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:43 pm

Capn'O wrote:
HopelessKnick wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Clippers fans have to cringe when they see how he turned out. 30, 6 and 6 is top 5 level stuff

The Clippers got really unlucky....I remember 3 years ago they had Lenard and PG going in the playoffs and it looked like they'd break through for the title...then Kawhi got injured against the Jazz and it went downhill from there. While Leonard has been injury prone forever, I think almost no one could have anticipated the ridiculous amount of injuries these two went through. In a reasonable estimate, if they had like 2-3 playoffs runs together healthy, I really think they would have had one title at least, maybe accompanied with a couple WCFs or so. Leonard and George were two elite two way all around wing players at that time. Frankly, a healthy Kawhi was probably the best player in the league and he would not have gone to the Clippers to play with SGA at that time. He requested PG.

As a Clipper fan I'd acknowledge that it did not work out unfortunately...but I wouldn't necessarily feel too bad about it...it was always the right thing to do. They had enough talent to win a title. Injuries prevented it...it could not have been foreseen to that extent...

100% that was a title team.

The injury timing was just terrible.

They took a huge risk banking on two guys with histories of major injuries... sometimes risks pay off but often they don't (see Clippers and Nets "super" teams). Hindsight is always 20/20.

sol537 · Post #1277 » by **sol537** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:44 pm

aggo wrote:

Read on Twitter

RJ developing, folks... small samples size, sure, but most of you were counting the kid out before this season...

Two keepers so far: Brunson + RJ

Who else would you deem untouchable or a part of the core/future? IQ? Mitch?

Riot Randolph · Post #1278 » by **Riot Randolph** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 8:08 pm

sol537 wrote:
aggo wrote:

Read on Twitter

RJ developing, folks... small samples size, sure, but most of you were counting the kid out before this season...

Two keepers so far: Brunson + RJ

Who else would you deem untouchable or a part of the core/future? IQ? Mitch?

Personally , the Villanova peeps , they bring the winning gritty culture. Culture is everything the talent disparity in the nba is all time low culture is everything

Gravy · Post #1279 » by **Gravy** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 8:19 pm

HopelessKnick wrote:Towns has absolutely been killing it. He is a big reason as to why the Wolves are as good.

This is exactly what I mean in terms of "at some point the FO needs to take a risk"....all these players like Fox, SGA, Towns are some point where available and the FO passed on engaging in any talks about any of them...no all of them are on winning teams, playing great and pretty much untouchable.

At some point the FO needs to overpay on some guy that they believe can take that step or would be a great fit. There is not going to come any savior at the right moment, at the right price.....if you look at the landscape in terms of some players and positions...there is not that guy, let alone available.

Zach Lavine is probably the current risk guy..

HopelessKnick · Post #1280 » by **HopelessKnick** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 8:30 pm

Gravy wrote:
HopelessKnick wrote:Towns has absolutely been killing it. He is a big reason as to why the Wolves are as good.

This is exactly what I mean in terms of "at some point the FO needs to take a risk"....all these players like Fox, SGA, Towns are some point where available and the FO passed on engaging in any talks about any of them...no all of them are on winning teams, playing great and pretty much untouchable.

At some point the FO needs to overpay on some guy that they believe can take that step or would be a great fit. There is not going to come any savior at the right moment, at the right price.....if you look at the landscape in terms of some players and positions...there is not that guy, let alone available.

Zach Lavine is probably the current risk guy..

Lavine has stated that he doesn't want to play for the Knicks....