Who Would You Rather Have: Jalen Duren Or Alperen Sengun?

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Who Would You Rather Have?

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Alperen Sengun
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Re: Who Would You Rather Have: Jalen Duren Or Alperen Sengun? 

Post#221 » by MoreyWins » Sat Dec 2, 2023 12:28 am

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MoreyWins wrote:The Enes Kanter comparisons were ridiculous to begin with. He's not stonefooted nor a blackhole when he gets passed the ball. I wouldn't be surprised if Sengun isn't on pace to shatter Kanter's career games with 5 assists in no time.

I mean yeah, KAnter had 9 career 5+ assist games and Sengun has 47 right now. He'll probably catch up to kanter in total assists in 500 less games

Wow that's actually way worse than I thought for Kanter. 10 year career with only 9 games of 5 assists is crazy.
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Re: Who Would You Rather Have: Jalen Duren Or Alperen Sengun? 

Post#222 » by CptCrunch » Sat Dec 2, 2023 12:50 am

Duren's basketball IQ is low right now. If you watch the Pistons like me (for them to fail), you'll see that Duren can't play one lick of team defense.

He is just a shell of a big man with a well developed body at a young age. This isn't a situation where you have a young kid enter the league with defensive awareness like Lively, Mobley, Chet.
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Post#223 » by freestyler34 » Sat Dec 2, 2023 3:54 pm

MoreyWins wrote:The Enes Kanter comparisons were ridiculous to begin with. He's not stonefooted nor a blackhole when he gets passed the ball. I wouldn't be surprised if Sengun isn't on pace to shatter Kanter's career games with 5 assists in no time.


Yea hes similar to Kanter if you ignore the facts that hes better than him in playmaking,defence,3 pt shoot,athleticism
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Post#224 » by TheFire » Sat Dec 2, 2023 4:28 pm

freestyler34 wrote:
MoreyWins wrote:The Enes Kanter comparisons were ridiculous to begin with. He's not stonefooted nor a blackhole when he gets passed the ball. I wouldn't be surprised if Sengun isn't on pace to shatter Kanter's career games with 5 assists in no time.


Yea hes similar to Kanter if you ignore the facts that hes better than him in playmaking,defence,3 pt shoot,athleticism

The only similarities is that they’re both Turks and that’s where it ends.
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Re: Who Would You Rather Have: Jalen Duren Or Alperen Sengun? 

Post#225 » by Ryoga Hibiki » Sat Dec 2, 2023 4:59 pm

TheFire wrote:
freestyler34 wrote:
MoreyWins wrote:The Enes Kanter comparisons were ridiculous to begin with. He's not stonefooted nor a blackhole when he gets passed the ball. I wouldn't be surprised if Sengun isn't on pace to shatter Kanter's career games with 5 assists in no time.


Yea hes similar to Kanter if you ignore the facts that hes better than him in playmaking,defence,3 pt shoot,athleticism

The only similarities is that they’re both Turks and that’s where it ends.

well, they both play basketball
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Re: Who Would You Rather Have: Jalen Duren Or Alperen Sengun? 

Post#226 » by BoogieTime » Sat Dec 2, 2023 7:08 pm

CptCrunch wrote:Duren's basketball IQ is low right now. If you watch the Pistons like me (for them to fail), you'll see that Duren can't play one lick of team defense.

He is just a shell of a big man with a well developed body at a young age. This isn't a situation where you have a young kid enter the league with defensive awareness like Lively, Mobley, Chet.


Never seen him live, and don’t want to pile on the poor Pistons, but from 15-20 seconds of highlights his mobility isn’t there. That’s pretty important for a modern defensive big
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Re: Who Would You Rather Have: Jalen Duren Or Alperen Sengun? 

Post#227 » by baldur » Fri Dec 22, 2023 10:50 pm

Who is duren?
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Post#228 » by JJ_PR » Sat Dec 23, 2023 12:36 am

I feel ashamed for voting Jalen Duren. Sengun is a legit potential superstar, Duren is Mitchell Robinson 2.0.
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Post#229 » by schnakenpopanz » Sun Dec 24, 2023 3:00 am

This even worse than my take on the timberwolves
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Post#230 » by Kiss of Death » Sun Dec 24, 2023 3:40 am

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Post#231 » by WillyJakkz » Sun Dec 24, 2023 4:30 am

baldur wrote:Who is duren?

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Yeah at the time this thread seemed like a fantastic idea :lol:

And I get some wanting Duren as a preference and the initial votes reflected that but yikes, the takes on Sengun were horrible
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Post#232 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Sun Dec 24, 2023 1:27 pm

Alright I may have been totally wrong about this guy. I’ll eat my crow early this year.

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Post#233 » by Ayt » Sun Dec 24, 2023 1:31 pm

Dude is great. He's one of the most fun to watch players to enter the league in a while. His ceiling is sky high because he is so damn smart, and he loves to compete.

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Re: Who Would You Rather Have: Jalen Duren Or Alperen Sengun? 

Post#234 » by El Turco » Sun Dec 24, 2023 1:43 pm

Called early last year Sengun would be Rockets franchise player, not their top 3 picks. I didnt think this would be clear this early though, I was thinking he would be an all start 2025.
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Re: Who Would You Rather Have: Jalen Duren Or Alperen Sengun? 

Post#235 » by HardenGoat » Sun Dec 24, 2023 2:47 pm

He’s 21 years old. Usually takes a center longer to develop but this kid is special. Already commanding double teams and is their first option end of games. Udoka has done wonders with this team.
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Post#236 » by Infinite Llamas » Sun Dec 24, 2023 3:12 pm

His USG% spiked over 5 points while his TO% dropped 5 points. Usually it’s the other way around…

This guy is an absolute force.
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Re: Who Would You Rather Have: Jalen Duren Or Alperen Sengun? 

Post#237 » by UcanUwill » Sun Dec 24, 2023 3:14 pm

I was huge on Sengun for years, I don't think it was fair comp ever, and I will not read first pages of this thread just to get upset, because if you after first two years were still not seeing this kids talent, I will restrain from further words.
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Post#238 » by WillyJakkz » Tue Jan 2, 2024 6:16 am

This was a pretty good matchup tonite until Alperen went nuts in the 3rd Q.

I'll also tell you what, Alperen is a strong guy. Duren couldn't manhandle shove him around the way he does or tries to intimidate some other C's.
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Re: Who Would You Rather Have: Jalen Duren Or Alperen Sengun? 

Post#239 » by RollingWave » Tue Jan 2, 2024 7:19 am

WillyJakkz wrote:This was a pretty good matchup tonite until Alperen went nuts in the 3rd Q.

I'll also tell you what, Alperen is a strong guy. Duren couldn't manhandle shove him around the way he does or tries to intimidate some other C's.


TBF to Duren, the Pistons actually played the Rockets to a draw when he's on the court today (granted with some shooting luck and the Rockets rotation remaining relatively poor compare to their earlier season play.), but as soon as they took him out with the foul troubles it was immediate nuclear annihilation.

Also for Sengun, one significant development to keep track is that he's suddenly strung together ten games where he's just legit hitting free throws at a well over 80% clip, that would be huge for him. He could probably get into the 8-10 assist territory if the guard plays around him gets a bit more consistent (namely, Jalen Green, who's finally having a good stretch again after an awful one.)

But yeah, now that Sengun looks like a obvious #1 option and part of a very sound defense. it would be really really hard for Duren to get anywhere close in this conversation even if we assume he hits something close to his potential best outcome.
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Re: Who Would You Rather Have: Jalen Duren Or Alperen Sengun? 

Post#240 » by Lockdown504090 » Tue Jan 2, 2024 1:29 pm

I’m firmly off the duren train. Not explosive enough, not a big enough catch radius. Cant score outside of 6 feet. Sengun aside, I just don’t like where duren is going. It looks more Drummond than Dwight Howard

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