2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas

[jvsimonetti0514]

Lauri has never played in a playoff game, he doesn’t contribute to winning basketball. Very overrated. Anybody who gives 5 picks for him is mental

It was actually only 4 picks, sir. I expect a correction

[RHODEY]

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[HarthorneWingo]

Bring Dwight Howard back from China

Is he better than Taj? I need video. Also, we're getting Sims back in another 7-10 days.

[robillionaire]

Lauri has never played in a playoff game, he doesn’t contribute to winning basketball. Very overrated. Anybody who gives 5 picks for him is mental

It was actually only 4 picks, sir. I expect a correction

I could have sworn I saw some tweet floating around here that said the asking price was 5 picks or something insane like that

[Jalen Bluntson]

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DM can come as a FA for the MLE in two years if he wants to be here. Bench role for when the point God Brunson needs a breather.

[HarthorneWingo]

Just please don't do anything STUPID.

[spree2kawhi]

Randle has been at worst at the same level as Markkanen if you get passed the bias. Lauri is a more efficient scorer, but Randle is a much better playmaker, rebounder and they are probably the same level of defender.

Playmaker? I don’t agree. While Lauri isn’t a playmaker, Randle is a bad one. Lauri is a fairly good rebounder too, much better shooter and, most importantly, a system player. Randle just isn’t. You can build a team with Lauri or a collection of chuckers with Randle.

Would Utah want Randle? No. Would we go after Lauri now? No. Is anything going to happen? Of course not. Anyway, I’d always prefer the smarter player.

There's literally nothing that proves the bolded assertion besides pure bias. You can believe that if you want, but it's simply not true neither statistically nor anecdotally for that matter. Also what exactly makes Lauri a smarter player ? He's had 1 and a quarter good years of all-star production. Before that he was a rotation offense-first player that nobody gave a second though to here.

It's also amazing the pass players who simply haven't played in the playoffs get. Randle has been bad in the playoffs, but at least he's gotten there to have a sample of information to go off of. We have no idea what Markkanen can do in the playoffs...

https://youtu.be/gBfU3ltj5t8?si=yn-L1GBWxXvdh_Yk

[Snacks]

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Very strange. I don't think he proved his point. Just b/c DMitch is small height wise doesn't make Barret better at being a point of attack guard.
DMitch fits into that point of attack guard role as well as anyone. Too me, whether it works out depends on DMitch's ability to play defense - which he is capable of. For the record, I don't consider DMitch a small player b/c of his physical size and wing span.

[thebuzzardman]

Thibs going to make the front office pick up Nerlens Noel and we'll all hate it

[Juco24]

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Very strange. I don't think he proved his point. Just b/c DMitch is small height wise doesn't make Barret better at being a point of attack guard.
DMitch fits into that point of attack guard role as well as anyone. Too me, whether it works out depends on DMitch's ability to play defense - which he is capable of. For the record, I don't consider DMitch a small player b/c of his physical size and wing span.

Agreed... as far as I'm concerned, if we can get DM for RJ in some capacity-it's a HUGE win. It's not like RJ is this great defender or rebounder (things people say he's better @ than DM). RJ has not taken that leap we all hoped for and quite frankly, I'm not sure he will. He can't finish @ the rim! He can't create one on one. He's not a lock down defender. He's good but he's just not a true 3rd goto guy that we desperately need

[spree2kawhi]

Lauri has never played in a playoff game, he doesn’t contribute to winning basketball. Very overrated. Anybody who gives 5 picks for him is mental

It was actually only 4 picks, sir. I expect a correction

Markkanen is a gem, but the picks are too many. He is also not for us, but you should put more thought into your words or he’ll make you look bad. People here talked like this about Sabonis too. Fox. KAT. Siakam. I’m sure there are many more. Trae Young is another one of those but that talk at least hasn’t backfired yet.

[FrozenEnvelope]

Bring Dwight Howard back from China

Is he better than Taj? I need video. Also, we're getting Sims back in another 7-10 days.

If we are going old big man, I rather get Harrell or Ibaka.

[RHODEY]

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Very strange. I don't think he proved his point. Just b/c DMitch is small height wise doesn't make Barret better at being a point of attack guard.
DMitch fits into that point of attack guard role as well as anyone. Too me, whether it works out depends on DMitch's ability to play defense - which he is capable of. For the record, I don't consider DMitch a small player b/c of his physical size and wing span.

Sure he's a better point of attack guard than RJ, but his point was we already have Brunson for that...and what you give up by having a tiny backcourt wouldn't be worth it ...for us. But we can agree to disagree.

[KnicksGadfly]

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Very strange. I don't think he proved his point. Just b/c DMitch is small height wise doesn't make Barret better at being a point of attack guard.
DMitch fits into that point of attack guard role as well as anyone. Too me, whether it works out depends on DMitch's ability to play defense - which he is capable of. For the record, I don't consider DMitch a small player b/c of his physical size and wing span.

Sure he's a better point of attack guard than RJ, but his point was we already have Brunson for that...and what you give up by having a tiny backcourt wouldn't be worth it ...for us. But we can agree to disagree.

Well, he thinks DMitch can play defense. Course, DMitch won't play it for the Cavs and Jazz, but he'll play it for us. Won't play it in the playoffs, but he'll do it for us.

[KnixinSix]

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Very strange. I don't think he proved his point. Just b/c DMitch is small height wise doesn't make Barret better at being a point of attack guard.
DMitch fits into that point of attack guard role as well as anyone. Too me, whether it works out depends on DMitch's ability to play defense - which he is capable of. For the record, I don't consider DMitch a small player b/c of his physical size and wing span.

DMitch has a decent wingspan and his D is underrated. The guy has defensive ability, he has just focused more on the offensive side. With Brunson and Julius (if RJ goes) and even Quickley, he will likely get back to playing more D under Thibs. You have both DD and Grimes as taller 2's to complement him.

[sol537]

It would likely take RJ + IQ + Mitch + picks to get Spida.... let's not fool ourselves. It's a steep price to pay but Spida is an elite talent. I think Spida would fit better next to Brunson and Randle than he does next to Garland and Mobley but I'm not sure the three of those guys can get good enough defensively as a unit to really contend. It's possible if the other 2 guys next to them are defensive stalwarts. Very possible, actually.

That is why I would do that trade with fewer picks. We could find the 3&D SF and stretch C later. Those are the "easy" parts to fill. It's not every day when a top 30 guy wants to come to NY badly. Randle for Zion could be there later if we ever want to visit that as well but that can wait. Bird in a hand...

[RHODEY]

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Very strange. I don't think he proved his point. Just b/c DMitch is small height wise doesn't make Barret better at being a point of attack guard.
DMitch fits into that point of attack guard role as well as anyone. Too me, whether it works out depends on DMitch's ability to play defense - which he is capable of. For the record, I don't consider DMitch a small player b/c of his physical size and wing span.

DMitch has a decent wingspan and his D is underrated. The guy has defensive ability, he has just focused more on the offensive side. With Brunson and Julius (if RJ goes) and even Quickley, he will likely get back to playing more D under Thibs. You have both DD and Grimes as taller 2's to complement him.

DD and Grimes are smaller 2's.....and the only over cover is Mitch so.....

[KnixinSix]

Lauri has never played in a playoff game, he doesn’t contribute to winning basketball. Very overrated. Anybody who gives 5 picks for him is mental

It was actually only 4 picks, sir. I expect a correction

Markkanen is a gem, but the picks are too many. He is also not for us, but you should put more thought into your words or he’ll make you look bad. People here talked like this about Sabonis too. Fox. KAT. Siakam. I’m sure there are many more. Trae Young is another one of those but that talk at least hasn’t backfired yet.

Markenen is to me almost a perfect fit here. He can play all frontcourt spots and is an improved defender.

1. More efficient shooter than RJ Barrett

2. Can play 3 positions and 2 that are a fairly big need. Stretch 5 and backup to Randle at PF. Can replace some of RJs Minutes at SF.

3. Allow Hart to play more 3 where he is a better fit than 4 or 5.

4. Plays defense, rebounds and can hit the 3.



The trade: Mitchell Robinson, Quickley, Sims, Fournier and 3-4 picks for Markenen and Kelly Olynyk. Ainge is in full tank mode and wants picks most and a young player or 2 to flip:


Rough Minutes distribution :

Hartenstein (30), Markenen (10), Olynyk (8)

Randle (34), Markenen (14)

Hart(30), Markenen (10), Grimes (8)

Donovan Mitchell (23), DDV (17), Grimes (8)

Brunson (34), Mitchell (10), DDV (4)


We STILL have more picks and assets to also do......

RJ, Grimes and 3 picks for Donovan Mitchell. Donovan can play 1 or 2 and we have the taller DD to complement him.



Rough minutes distribution:

Hartenstein (30), Markenen (8), Olynyk (10)

Randle (34), Markenen (14)

Hart(30), Markenen (12), DDV (6)

DMitch (23), DDV (25)

Brunson (34), Mitchell (10), McBride (4)


Elite scoring lineup:

Markenen
Randle
Hart
DMitch
Brunson


3 Ball small ball lineup:

Markenen
Randle
DDV
DMitch
Brunson


Big/Rebounding lineup:

Hartenstein
Randle/Olynyk
Markenen
Hart
DMtich/Brunson


Balanced lineup:

Hartenstein /Olynyk
Randle
Markenen
DDV/Hart
DMtich/Brunson

[KnixinSix]

Very strange. I don't think he proved his point. Just b/c DMitch is small height wise doesn't make Barret better at being a point of attack guard.
DMitch fits into that point of attack guard role as well as anyone. Too me, whether it works out depends on DMitch's ability to play defense - which he is capable of. For the record, I don't consider DMitch a small player b/c of his physical size and wing span.

DMitch has a decent wingspan and his D is underrated. The guy has defensive ability, he has just focused more on the offensive side. With Brunson and Julius (if RJ goes) and even Quickley, he will likely get back to playing more D under Thibs. You have both DD and Grimes as taller 2's to complement him.

DD and Grimes are smaller 2's.....and the only over cover is Mitch so.....

Both are 6'4 and are 'taller' 2s compared to Quickley and DMitch. 6'4 is right about decent height for a 2 in todays NBA.

[Meat]

Lauri has never played in a playoff game, he doesn’t contribute to winning basketball. Very overrated. Anybody who gives 5 picks for him is mental

no one played winning basketball before they got here, for all his faults Thibs is great at teaching\instilling that.