Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24 – (Trade Deadline Feb. 8, 3PM, ET)

[JaMarco]

Right now trading for Oly is just a rumor.

It has to be true though, it makes too much sense.

[165bows]

Celtics trade the whole batch of guys I mentioned above and take back KO, Kris Dunn and Simon fontecchio.

NYK trades Fournier, and takes back Kornet, Stevens, Brissett (cuts Taj G and some other scrub).

Utah trades the three guys going to Boston and takes back a pick and Walsh, Banton, Svi, Fournier.

Seems too complicated. I feel like trades with that many teams and that many players, you typically only see that kind of stuff happen if there's multiple star players involved - or at least 1 star...you don't usually see a deal that complex with mostly end of the bench scrubs..

That’s what you said about the brogdon deal.

Anyways what’s the fudge factor for trades, 100k or 250k? Anyone remember that, I forget. If it’s $250k they can leave out Walsh in the above deal. Gibson is an easy cut it’s really looking for one roster spot. Which isn’t a big deal at all.

Idk if Olynyk really evens helps this team or not. So far Al/KP together hasn’t been a great pair afaik so I don’t know if adding Olynyk into that helps.

Maybe maybe not I’m just showing how it could be done.

[BK_2020]

It'd be nice if we can get Olynyk as a buyout but given how close we are to the ultimate goal even a trade of Pritchard and some real assets wouldn't be unthinkable. Pritchard has been very good since the rough start but I feel his contributions are very replaceable whereas it's very difficult to find a 6'10 guy who can shoot from the outside, handle the ball a bit, and pass well.

[JaMarco]

It'd be nice if we can get Olynyk as a buyout but given how close we are to the ultimate goal even a trade of Pritchard and some real assets wouldn't be unthinkable. Pritchard has been very good since the rough start but I feel his contributions are very replaceable whereas it's very difficult to find a 6'10 guy who can shoot from the outside, handle the ball a bit, and pass well.

They just extended Pritchard, I think it's HIGHLY unlikely they would trade him already.

[BK_2020]

It'd be nice if we can get Olynyk as a buyout but given how close we are to the ultimate goal even a trade of Pritchard and some real assets wouldn't be unthinkable. Pritchard has been very good since the rough start but I feel his contributions are very replaceable whereas it's very difficult to find a 6'10 guy who can shoot from the outside, handle the ball a bit, and pass well.

They just extended Pritchard, I think it's HIGHLY unlikely they would trade him already.

How do we match Olynyk without him? We are not trading Al for KO.

[JaMarco]

It'd be nice if we can get Olynyk as a buyout but given how close we are to the ultimate goal even a trade of Pritchard and some real assets wouldn't be unthinkable. Pritchard has been very good since the rough start but I feel his contributions are very replaceable whereas it's very difficult to find a 6'10 guy who can shoot from the outside, handle the ball a bit, and pass well.

They just extended Pritchard, I think it's HIGHLY unlikely they would trade him already.

How do we match Olynyk without him? We are not trading Al for KO.

Svi, Lamar, Brissett, Luke, Banton, and Walsh

[BK_2020]

They just extended Pritchard, I think it's HIGHLY unlikely they would trade him already.

How do we match Olynyk without him? We are not trading Al for KO.

Svi, Lamar, Brissett, Luke, Banton, and Walsh

That's a lot of dudes.

[chrisab123]

How do we match Olynyk without him? We are not trading Al for KO.

Svi, Lamar, Brissett, Luke, Banton, and Walsh

That's a lot of dudes.

Lots of JAGS

[BK_2020]

Svi, Lamar, Brissett, Luke, Banton, and Walsh

That's a lot of dudes.

Lots of JAGS

Utah still has to figure out how to open 5 roster spots. They probably can't, so we need to find like 4 other teams that will take them on and cut them. I don't see it happening.

[Curmudgeon]

The Celtics bench is playing very well. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Now, if a veteran like Olynyk or PJ Tucker falls into their laps after a buyout, fine. Given the new CBA I would expect a flurry of post-deadline buyouts as losing and mediocre teams struggle to get under one threshhold or another.

[chrisab123]

That's a lot of dudes.

Lots of JAGS

Utah still has to figure out how to open 5 roster spots. They probably can't, so we need to find like 4 other teams that will take them on and cut them. I don't see it happening.

Ainge loves 2nd rounders more than Brad. He would find a way. That isn't a big deal

[165bows]

Lots of JAGS

Utah still has to figure out how to open 5 roster spots. They probably can't, so we need to find like 4 other teams that will take them on and cut them. I don't see it happening.

Ainge loves 2nd rounders more than Brad. He would find a way. That isn't a big deal

I take back what I said earlier, I think they’d need to move Walsh as well. So six roster spots. It’s doable but a bit complicated. A bit easier since they have the TPE.

[playa-hater]

Yo mama if brad trades walsh!

you know I aint staying quiet on dis one!

but seriously speaking, Boston traded D Bane. A Young talent for whatever reason. Look at how bad that turned out. Walsh is in his own way a young talented player. Can't trade him for a veteran rental. If they Do I riot!!

They traded the pick to dump Kanters contract. The bane pick was made for Memphis. So they didn’t actually trade Bane himself

It's the same for me because he was there and we drafted him.. I guess perhaps we wasn't going to get him. But the point is a young talent was ours to have if we decided.

[165bows]

I get KO used to play here and prob loved Brad as much as the rest of us but doesn’t he go to Miami or somewhere he’d play more if he’s bought out? I mean, he could prob start some places as opposed to getting maybe 15-20 minutes here in Boston.

[cl2117]

I like the idea at looking at some of the Jazz guys who could fit into the Grant TPE on their own. Dunn has been solid and gives you a bigger guard. Fontecchio is a poor man's Italian Hauser (weak D, 40% from 3). Yurtseven is good on the boards. If the Jazz do end up with some sort of fire-sale after a Lauri trade or just lean into the tank and sell off expiring guys like above, all three of those guys would be worth a look.

KO would be amazing as a buyout but I don't think we'd be his first choice and I'd be surprised if the Jazz went that route anyway. I'm not opposed to doing some sort of 5 or 6 for 1 deal, especially if we're getting some other pieces back via the TPEs, but it's probably too many pieces. I could see it being more likely if it piggy backed off some big deal involving Lauri or their other vets and there are more salaries and bodies moving around.

The Thunder are another team that have interesting bench guys but it feels laughable to try and offer them mediocre 2nds and filler given their insane pick stash.

[165bows]

I like the idea at looking at some of the Jazz guys who could fit into the Grant TPE on their own. Dunn has been solid and gives you a bigger guard. Fontecchio is a poor man's Italian Hauser (weak D, 40% from 3). Yurtseven is good on the boards. If the Jazz do end up with some sort of fire-sale after a Lauri trade or just lean into the tank and sell off expiring guys like above, all three of those guys would be worth a look.

KO would be amazing as a buyout but I don't think we'd be his first choice and I'd be surprised if the Jazz went that route anyway. I'm not opposed to doing some sort of 5 or 6 for 1 deal, especially if we're getting some other pieces back via the TPEs, but it's probably too many pieces. I could see it being more likely if it piggy backed off some big deal involving Lauri or their other vets and there are more salaries and bodies moving around.

The Thunder are another team that have interesting bench guys but it feels laughable to try and offer them mediocre 2nds and filler given their insane pick stash.

Yeah that’s a good point, they are unlikely to stand pat otherwise so matching roster spots at this point doesn’t make sense. But a straight up deal for Ny makes a ton of sense, Fournier and some lame asset for Olynyk. Or as I said why not just go to NY as a buyout and be the starter.

But due to the buy out possibilities, I’d imagine they hold off to the very end to make a deal. Or at least there is incentive to wait until then unless they get a deal they really want to snap up.

[Hal14]

Is there any precedence for a 5 for 1 or 6 for 1 trade happening in the middle of the season where the 1 was a bench player, not a star? Let alone a 32 year old bench player on an expiring contract..

[celtxman]

I’d love to snag KO…but think buy out is the way. I don’t want to trade Pritchard or Walsh in any outgoing deal, and I am liking Brissett as well.

KO being bought out is ideal. Boston is a real fit for him personally. He has a real role for a championship level team.
Not only he is another stretch four, he helps soothe an elephant in the room. Do we have enough bench scoring, as we depend on Hauser? You look at his stats and he is around 42% this year, but following a miserable stretch that reminds us that he was not reliable in the playoffs.
KO is the kind of deadline insurance this team needs. Not only is he an excellent shooter he is also an excellent and willing passer.
Let Brad and Ainge work this out. Ainge buys Olynyk out, Brad owes him in a future deal.

Watch him go back to Miami after getting bought out.

Possibly. But hard to think of Miami as a true title contender currently and that may matter to KO. I'm sure Miami will try to do something after being embarrassed on the Lillard situation.

[165bows]

Is there any precedence for a 5 for 1 or 6 for 1 trade happening in the middle of the season where the 1 was a bench player, not a star? Let alone a 32 year old bench player on an expiring contract..

Who knows but no point in looking since that’s not how a deal would be structured, with no other guys coming back to Boston.

[neno]

Kornett,svi, 2 2nds to Toronto 4 precious
Brisset 1st&2nd to Brooklyn 4 cam thomas
6-10
Pritchard
Thomas
Hauser
Precious
Horford