2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas

[Capn'O]

IQ and RJ for OG and Boucher works in the trade machine. Gives us a starting SF and another big man and actual stretch big at that , raptors get a starting PG and hometown albatross deal. We can play McBride at backup PG until Rokas comes. Just need Dolan to drop the lawsuit and beg Masai for forgiveness. Maybe he can give him some free vip passes to jd and the straight shot shows and a beej

It's more than a fair trade.

[JBreezeNY]

it’s funny because i seen raptors fans saying masai needs to apologize to dolan because they need iq after we beat the bucks on christmas

I love IQ but I'd pull the trigger on that trade.

Bad trade. IQ is better than OG and RJ is better than Boucher.

I'd rather do Mitch + RJ + IQ + picks for 2 years of KD (and possibly more if he extends).

Go all in with KD + Brunson + Randle... 2-3 years of contention and maybe you get one. All we need is one...

KD isn’t happening fam.

And it’s not about IQ or RJ being better talents, OG fits the team better than IQ.

[RHODEY]

IQ and RJ for OG and Boucher works in the trade machine. Gives us a starting SF and another big man and actual stretch big at that , raptors get a starting PG and hometown albatross deal. We can play McBride at backup PG until Rokas comes. Just need Dolan to drop the lawsuit and beg Masai for forgiveness. Maybe he can give him some free vip passes to jd and the straight shot shows and a beej

It's more than a fair trade.

If Boucher was a healthy Jonather Isaac it would be fair....But this is far from fair in my eyes.

[Chanel Bomber]

IQ and RJ for OG and Boucher works in the trade machine. Gives us a starting SF and another big man and actual stretch big at that , raptors get a starting PG and hometown albatross deal. We can play McBride at backup PG until Rokas comes. Just need Dolan to drop the lawsuit and beg Masai for forgiveness. Maybe he can give him some free vip passes to jd and the straight shot shows and a beej

It's more than a fair trade.

I think we lose that trade.

OG's a nice piece but I think losing IQ would be a blow to the team that OG wouldn't make up for.

I think RJ, Grimes, an unprotected first, and perhaps another protected first would be more advantageous for us. Not sure it's appealing to the Raptors though.

[robillionaire]

IQ and RJ for OG and Boucher works in the trade machine. Gives us a starting SF and another big man and actual stretch big at that , raptors get a starting PG and hometown albatross deal. We can play McBride at backup PG until Rokas comes. Just need Dolan to drop the lawsuit and beg Masai for forgiveness. Maybe he can give him some free vip passes to jd and the straight shot shows and a beej

It's more than a fair trade.

I think we lose that trade.

OG's a nice piece but I think losing IQ would be a blow to the team that OG wouldn't make up for.

I think RJ, Grimes, an unprotected first, and perhaps another protected first would be more advantageous for us. Not sure it's appealing to the Raptors though.

You need to look at it in the context that we are more than likely going to lose him for nothing if we don’t do something. Unloading RJ is a sweetener for us as well as getting a big that could help now

[Chanel Bomber]

It's more than a fair trade.

I think we lose that trade.

OG's a nice piece but I think losing IQ would be a blow to the team that OG wouldn't make up for.

I think RJ, Grimes, an unprotected first, and perhaps another protected first would be more advantageous for us. Not sure it's appealing to the Raptors though.

You need to look at it in the context that we are more than likely going to lose him for nothing if we don’t do something. Unloading RJ is a sweetener for us as well as getting a big that could help now

We can still match any offer and I'd rather do that than ship him away for OG, who to your point is a nice piece to have.

I now understand that you proposed it from the standpoint of recouping value instead of losing him for nothing, which is fair.

I guess what I'm saying is that I'd hope they would aim to do both instead.

[robillionaire]

I think we lose that trade.

OG's a nice piece but I think losing IQ would be a blow to the team that OG wouldn't make up for.

I think RJ, Grimes, an unprotected first, and perhaps another protected first would be more advantageous for us. Not sure it's appealing to the Raptors though.

You need to look at it in the context that we are more than likely going to lose him for nothing if we don’t do something. Unloading RJ is a sweetener for us as well as getting a big that could help now

We can still match any offer and I'd rather do that than ship him away for OG, who to your point is a nice piece to have.

I now understand that you proposed it from the standpoint of recouping value instead of losing him for nothing, which is fair.

I guess what I'm saying is that I'd hope they would aim to do both instead.

well if we don’t trade him by the deadline, and some team offers 30M and we don’t match and lose him for nothing, the 3rd course of action is to fire Leon

[god shammgod]

i don't think the knicks will do that trade. you'll have no bench after that. and part of the reason they're any good is their bench.

grimes or ddv starting still

so the bench is.....grimes/ddv, hart, mcbride, boucher (who aint any good really). that bench is gonna be negative more often than not. you have nobody who can create a shot and one player who can shoot the ball.

[robillionaire]

i don't think the knicks will do that trade. you'll have no bench after that. and part of the reason they're any good is their bench.

grimes or ddv starting still

so the bench is.....grimes/ddv, hart, mcbride, boucher (who aint any good really). that bench is gonna be negative more often than not. you have nobody who can create a shot and one player who can shoot the ball.

The bench isn’t even that good, OKCs whipped us. And we have Taj Gibson getting significant minutes and he’s beyond washed. McBride is ready to play. Our bench would be better with Boucher instead of taj and OG would be a major upgrade. Idk just my opinion

[WargamesX]

I think they do a Dejuante Trade and do their best to draft a D&3 kid Thibs can develop. I also think they pay Hartenstein. Mitch is a DPOY talent but Hartenstein can hold his own as a backup better than most and even as a replacement if needed.

Knicks Trade: IQ, Fournier, Mavs 2023 pick, Knicks 2024 pick, Detroit 2023 second rounder (like pick 31)
Knicks get: Dejuante Murray

Why the hawks do it. Honestly it gives them the assets needed to trade for Siakim. Who is their real target. Toronto, wants to keep Barnes and OG would love IQ in that mix, but the Knicks aren’t trading with them, and the Knicks don’t want Siakim.

Why the Knicks do it. For one thing IQ wants the contract Murray has and he can’t start in NY because Brunson and the Knicks seem hesitant to start a small back court. Two Murray can help hide Brunson defensively like Grimes use too, and he could potentially be more than a third option and could maybe run the bench squad

Murray
DDV
Grimes
Hart

Is a scary bench team, also defensively with the starters

Murray
Grimes
RJ
Randle
Mitch

Could be a defensive line up that see’s heavy minutes.

If the Knicks can draft the right wing defender or trade for one without giving up too much I think they could actually be considered contenders

[Capn'O]

IQ and RJ for OG and Boucher works in the trade machine. Gives us a starting SF and another big man and actual stretch big at that , raptors get a starting PG and hometown albatross deal. We can play McBride at backup PG until Rokas comes. Just need Dolan to drop the lawsuit and beg Masai for forgiveness. Maybe he can give him some free vip passes to jd and the straight shot shows and a beej

It's more than a fair trade.

If Boucher was a healthy Jonather Isaac it would be fair....But this is far from fair in my eyes.

I think it's close but we lose. My intended implication is that it doesn't matter because Masai is valuing his players too much.

It does balance our roster and remove the IQ problem. Ideally, we would have prioritized IQ over the summer. But we didn't. I'd probably do this despite losing the trade in a vacuum.

[KnixinSix]

Last night right or wrong was probably a big clue into how they are thinking about roster construction in Thibs system.

A super hot 6'1 Quickley was subbed out for the 6'6 cold as ice RJ Barrett with 4 minutes and change left in the game. Why ? The importance in Thibs mind to match size on size.

Even though the numbers clearly say our best lineup on the floor is when Randle, Brunson and IQ (not RJ) are out there, Thibs wants to be able to match size on size.

I strongly feel DeJounte is a very real option for that big reason combined with the fact that he can put up points just about as well as Quickley.

He gives you decent SG size, and can also back up PG probably even better than Quickley can while providing a very good size matchup when he plays that spot too.

Whether this is a smart move or not is certainly debateable but it certainly seems in line with how they are thinking.

[KnixinSix]

It's more than a fair trade.

If Boucher was a healthy Jonather Isaac it would be fair....But this is far from fair in my eyes.

I think it's close but we lose. My intended implication is that it doesn't matter because Masai is valuing his players too much.

It does balance our roster and remove the IQ problem. Ideally, we would have prioritized IQ over the summer. But we didn't. I'd probably do this despite losing the trade in a vacuum.

IQ is an awfully good player and I think some.teams at this point value him.higher than RJ. No way I give up both RJ and Quick for OG and a lower end player in Boucer.

RJ for OG works and OG switched to CAA (probably not a pure coincidence). Then DeJounte for IQ.

You have increased the size and defensive versatility of your lineup with better fitting pieces around Brunson.

Rough minutes distribution:

Hartenstein (30), OG(8), Sims(10)

Randle (34), OG (14)

OG (10), Hart(30), DDV (8)

DeJounte (23), DDV (25)

Brunson (34), DeJounte (10), McBride (4)

[RHODEY]

If Boucher was a healthy Jonather Isaac it would be fair....But this is far from fair in my eyes.

I think it's close but we lose. My intended implication is that it doesn't matter because Masai is valuing his players too much.

It does balance our roster and remove the IQ problem. Ideally, we would have prioritized IQ over the summer. But we didn't. I'd probably do this despite losing the trade in a vacuum.

IQ is an awfully good player and I think some.teams at this point value him.higher than RJ. No way I give up both RJ and Quick for OG and a lower end player in Boucer.

RJ for OG works and OG switched to CAA (probably not a pure coincidence). Then DeJounte for IQ.

You have increased the size and defensive versatility of your lineup with better fitting pieces around Brunson.

Rough minutes distribution:

Hartenstein (30), OG(8), Sims(10)

Randle (34), OG (14)

OG (10), Hart(30), DDV (8)

DeJounte (23), DDV (25)

Brunson (34), DeJounte (10), McBride (4)

The are ways to balance the roster without wasting IQ on a Meh roleplayer like Boucher. If you move IQ its for a star.

[Moose]

Hawks trade:

De'Andre Hunter
Dejounte Murray

for

RJ Barrett
Quentin Grimes
Miles McBride
DaQuan Jeffries
Ryan Arcidiacono
2024 Knicks 1st
2024 Mavs 1st
2025 Knicks 1st
2026 Knicks 1st

With a healthy Mitch:

Mitch (28)/iHart (20)/Sims
Randle (35)/Hart (13)/Hunter/Sims
Hunter (28)/Hart (10)/Divincenzo (10)
Murray (34)/Divincenzo (8)/IQ (6)
Brunson (34)/IQ (14)/Murray

9-man rotation - it will take some time to figure out the rotations imo, but this surrounds Randle with more shooting. Quickly should be playing the most minutes off the bench, but considering the guards have, that will make it tough

[HarthorneWingo]

How DARE the Nyets reduce Mikal’s playing time.

[cgf]

Just keep it simple, Fournier + FRP for Gafford/Capela. Don't waste a bunch of assets on bad fits like Murray just because they could be available. Using one on a stopgap that gives us some cover in case IH gets a crazy offer in FA? Fine, but not multiple pieces for a less-energetic Hart.

[KnixinSix]

Hawks trade:

De'Andre Hunter
Dejounte Murray

for

RJ Barrett
Quentin Grimes
Miles McBride
DaQuan Jeffries
Ryan Arcidiacono
2024 Knicks 1st
2024 Mavs 1st
2025 Knicks 1st
2026 Knicks 1st

With a healthy Mitch:

Mitch (28)/iHart (20)/Sims
Randle (35)/Hart (13)/Hunter/Sims
Hunter (28)/Hart (10)/Divincenzo (10)
Murray (34)/Divincenzo (8)/IQ (6)
Brunson (34)/IQ (14)/Murray

9-man rotation - it will take some time to figure out the rotations imo, but this surrounds Randle with more shooting. Quickly should be playing the most minutes off the bench, but considering the guards have, that will make it tough

I like the idea but it wouldn't take that much for those 2 players. Also hard to see IQ getting only 6 minutes which is why IQ likely would go in that trade or another for someone like OG or Markenen.

[rajajackal]

sounds like the seeds of divorce are already being planted with mikal over in brooklyn. i feel like they might be fine with that because they have cam johnson

[HarthorneWingo]

sounds like the seeds of divorce are already being planted with mikal over in brooklyn. i feel like they might be fine with that because they have cam johnson

They know that we'd give up a haul for him. Signals have been sent.