Reed Sheppard and Rob Dillingham - 2024 NBA Draft

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If Dilly was like 4 inches taller he'd be the best player in the draft

Unfortunately he's tiny and in the NBA an inch could make or break you

He's about 6'2". Similar height to guys like Darius Garland, Steph Curry, Lillard, Kyrie, Trae Young, Steve Nash, Maxey, De'Aaron Fox, Scoot, Ja, Rajon Rondo, etc.

Sure, size is of course a factor. But talent is talent. And this is a weaker draft class, without a true no. 1 pick..so we shouldn't just dismiss him as a top pick in the draft, just because of size, imo.

[clyde21]

If Dilly was like 4 inches taller he'd be the best player in the draft

Unfortunately he's tiny and in the NBA an inch could make or break you

He's about 6'2". Similar height to guys like Darius Garland, Steph Curry, Lillard, Kyrie, Trae Young, Steve Nash, Maxey, De'Aaron Fox, Scoot, Ja, etc.

Sure, size is of course a factor. But talent is talent. And this is a weaker draft class, without a true no. 1 pick..so we shouldn't just dismiss him as a top pick in the draft, just because of size, imo.

lol he's Trae Young size and there is no way in hell Trae is 6-2

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If Dilly was like 4 inches taller he'd be the best player in the draft

Unfortunately he's tiny and in the NBA an inch could make or break you

He's about 6'2". Similar height to guys like Darius Garland, Steph Curry, Lillard, Kyrie, Trae Young, Steve Nash, Maxey, De'Aaron Fox, Scoot, Ja, etc.

Sure, size is of course a factor. But talent is talent. And this is a weaker draft class, without a true no. 1 pick..so we shouldn't just dismiss him as a top pick in the draft, just because of size, imo.

lol he's Trae Young size and there is no way in hell Trae is 6-2

Trae is 6'1" and imo, Rob looks a little taller about 6'2".

https://www.kentucky.com/sports/college/kentucky-sports/uk-basketball-men/article280876208.html

As a recruit, Dillingham was listed at 6-2 and 160 pounds. The latter number was generous. At UK’s televised Pro Day event earlier this month, strength and conditioning coach Brady Welsh noted that Dillingham had added 24 pounds since arriving in Lexington early in the summer. When the official measurements from Pro Day came out a couple of days later, he was listed at 6-3 and 176 pounds.

[King Ken]

I have a hard time envisioning Dillingham not scoring 20+ per a game in the NBA.

I see him in the mold of Monta Ellis. He can score 20+ but who's gonna give him those mins. IQ is probably a good measuring stick for him.

C'mon now. Rob and IQ are completely different in terms of playmaking.

IQ was 11% assist rate in college. Rob is at 32.6%.

As an 18 yr old freshman, Rob is averaging 14 PPG and 44% from 3. IQ's freshman yr he averaged 5 PPG and shot 34% from 3.

They are similar build. And similar in how they move (really quick, fluid the way they move and with herky jerky movements which throw the defender off, not knowing which way he's gonna go).

But IQ is more of like a microwave scorer off the bench. Rob has the potential to be a true lead guard, in the mold of like Darius Garland..

Maybe. I just haven't seen the passing from him that I saw from Garland even early on. I do like his scoring better than Garland.

[MemphisX]

If Dilly was like 4 inches taller he'd be the best player in the draft

Unfortunately he's tiny and in the NBA an inch could make or break you

He's about 6'2". Similar height to guys like Darius Garland, Steph Curry, Lillard, Kyrie, Trae Young, Steve Nash, Maxey, De'Aaron Fox, Scoot, Ja, etc.

Sure, size is of course a factor. But talent is talent. And this is a weaker draft class, without a true no. 1 pick..so we shouldn't just dismiss him as a top pick in the draft, just because of size, imo.

lol he's Trae Young size and there is no way in hell Trae is 6-2

He is almost exactly Trae's size.

[FarBeyondDriven]

If Dilly was like 4 inches taller he'd be the best player in the draft

Unfortunately he's tiny and in the NBA an inch could make or break you

He's about 6'2". Similar height to guys like Darius Garland, Steph Curry, Lillard, Kyrie, Trae Young, Steve Nash, Maxey, De'Aaron Fox, Scoot, Ja, Rajon Rondo, etc.

Sure, size is of course a factor. But talent is talent. And this is a weaker draft class, without a true no. 1 pick..so we shouldn't just dismiss him as a top pick in the draft, just because of size, imo.

except he's definitely not 6'2" and most of those guys you listed are actually 6'3". Dillingham is noticeably shorter than both Wagner and Sheppard who are both actually 6'2". He's a little less than 6'1". But it's not just his height, it's the sleight frame that will make him only playable in spurts off the bench due to his defense

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He's about 6'2". Similar height to guys like Darius Garland, Steph Curry, Lillard, Kyrie, Trae Young, Steve Nash, Maxey, De'Aaron Fox, Scoot, Ja, etc.

Sure, size is of course a factor. But talent is talent. And this is a weaker draft class, without a true no. 1 pick..so we shouldn't just dismiss him as a top pick in the draft, just because of size, imo.

lol he's Trae Young size and there is no way in hell Trae is 6-2

He is almost exactly Trae's size.

lol you measured in person?

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except he's definitely not 6'2" and most of those guys you listed are actually 6'3". Dillingham is noticeably shorter than both Wagner and Sheppard who are both actually 6'2". He's a little less than 6'1". But it's not just his height, it's the sleight frame that will make him only playable in spurts off the bench due to his defense

That's just your opinion. Stop acting like you are stating cold hard facts. My opinion, is he looks about 6'2" on film.

https://www.kentucky.com/sports/college/kentucky-sports/uk-basketball-men/article280876208.html

"As a recruit, Dillingham was listed at 6-2 and 160 pounds. The latter number was generous. At UK’s televised Pro Day event earlier this month, strength and conditioning coach Brady Welsh noted that Dillingham had added 24 pounds since arriving in Lexington early in the summer. When the official measurements from Pro Day came out a couple of days later, he was listed at 6-3 and 176 pounds.

Rob is only 18. Most pro basketball players get quite a bit bigger/stronger after the age of 18. Idk why you're acting like Rob will look the way he does now forever. You know what Steph looked like in college? I'm sure you probably said the same thing about him (too skinny, only play in spurts off the bench, liability on D) and you probably said the same thing about Steve Nash, Tony Parker, etc.

Rob has already packed only like 24 lbs of muscle since stepping foot on Kentucky's campus.

The worst part about this forum is when we have these long threads that end up being just people debating heights for 90% of the posts, with childish back and forth debating an inch here or there. It's insufferable. We'll find out more accurate measurements closer to the draft. In the meantime, the all we can go off is the article I just posted in this post..

Rondo, Morant, Garland. Those guys all defensive liabilities, guys who can only play in short spurts off the bench?

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Each player's measurements when drafted..

[clyde21]

Scoot never got measured, where are you getting these numbers from half them are wrong

[clyde21]

I mean if you look at Scoot and Dilly and all you see is a difference of a few pounds ok then

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This kind of handle, shot creation, shot making, confidence and creativity last year during his age 17/18 season..

Watch on YouTube

A look at how he's played at Kentucky..

Watch on YouTube

[clyde21]

we're all on board with Dilly's skill traits, problem is the physical pro. if he was a bit bigger he'd be the best player in this class.

[FarBeyondDriven]

except he's definitely not 6'2" and most of those guys you listed are actually 6'3". Dillingham is noticeably shorter than both Wagner and Sheppard who are both actually 6'2". He's a little less than 6'1". But it's not just his height, it's the sleight frame that will make him only playable in spurts off the bench due to his defense

That's just your opinion. Stop acting like you are stating cold hard facts. My opinion, is he looks about 6'2" on film.

https://www.kentucky.com/sports/college/kentucky-sports/uk-basketball-men/article280876208.html

"As a recruit, Dillingham was listed at 6-2 and 160 pounds. The latter number was generous. At UK’s televised Pro Day event earlier this month, strength and conditioning coach Brady Welsh noted that Dillingham had added 24 pounds since arriving in Lexington early in the summer. When the official measurements from Pro Day came out a couple of days later, he was listed at 6-3 and 176 pounds.

Rob is only 18. Most pro basketball players get quite a bit bigger/stronger after the age of 18. Idk why you're acting like Rob will look the way he does now forever. You know what Steph looked like in college? I'm sure you probably said the same thing about him (too skinny, only play in spurts off the bench, liability on D) and you probably said the same thing about Steve Nash, Tony Parker, etc.

Rob has already packed only like 24 lbs of muscle since stepping foot on Kentucky's campus.

The worst part about this forum is when we have these long threads that end up being just people debating heights for 90% of the posts, with childish back and forth debating an inch here or there. It's insufferable. We'll find out more accurate measurements closer to the draft. In the meantime, the all we can go off is the article I just posted in this post..

Rondo, Morant, Garland. Those guys all defensive liabilities, guys who can only play in short spurts off the bench?

and...you're just stating your opinion. Thing about my opinion is it's educated unlike that dumb post you submitted as some sort of proof

https://news.yahoo.com/john-calipari-taking-big-gamble-110000646.html

If you can't see that Dillingham is clearly an inch shorter than both Sheppard and Wagner then there's no hope for you.

Rondo was very long and a great defender. I can't believe you're claiming he's a defensive liability. He made four all defensive teams! You are so lost . Seriously this was pretty embarrassing

Morant is one of the best athletes the sport has seen and is 6'3". He's been arguably a top 10-15 player. Why are comparing Dillingham to him? They're nothing alike. As sleight as Ja is he's still got inches on Rob and way more athleticism and length.

I'm fine if you're putting Dillingham in the same tier as Garland since they have similar size and are both defensive liabilities. I find Garland overrated and was drafted too high but there's no getting around the fact that as a small guard he's produced and been named an all-star. Garland is a true PG while Dillingham has the superior athleticism and deeper bag but imho they're deserving of being in the same tier as prospects. Garland is the type of guy that caps a team as a pretender due to his size and defense. There's a reason why Cleveland felt they had to go out and get Mitchell and why they're pretty maxed out with that small backcourt. These are the same limitations that the Hawks have to deal with with Trae and any team would have to deal with if they drafted Dillingham and tried to start him. Sure, they'll put up counting stats as every player would given usage but it's not going to translate to deep playoff runs or championships.

And I'm confused, how can this be a weak draft class if you think Dillingham is comparable to Garland, Steph, and Morant? If he's just one of the guys you feel should be near the top of the class, doesn't that also mean you think there are other players in the mix too? And if there are multiple guys as good or better than Rob doesn't that suggest the class isn't weak? You can't even make up your mind about which bad take to defend. This board is just disappointing sometimes

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except he's definitely not 6'2" and most of those guys you listed are actually 6'3". Dillingham is noticeably shorter than both Wagner and Sheppard who are both actually 6'2". He's a little less than 6'1". But it's not just his height, it's the sleight frame that will make him only playable in spurts off the bench due to his defense

That's just your opinion. Stop acting like you are stating cold hard facts. My opinion, is he looks about 6'2" on film.

https://www.kentucky.com/sports/college/kentucky-sports/uk-basketball-men/article280876208.html

"As a recruit, Dillingham was listed at 6-2 and 160 pounds. The latter number was generous. At UK’s televised Pro Day event earlier this month, strength and conditioning coach Brady Welsh noted that Dillingham had added 24 pounds since arriving in Lexington early in the summer. When the official measurements from Pro Day came out a couple of days later, he was listed at 6-3 and 176 pounds.

Rob is only 18. Most pro basketball players get quite a bit bigger/stronger after the age of 18. Idk why you're acting like Rob will look the way he does now forever. You know what Steph looked like in college? I'm sure you probably said the same thing about him (too skinny, only play in spurts off the bench, liability on D) and you probably said the same thing about Steve Nash, Tony Parker, etc.

Rob has already packed only like 24 lbs of muscle since stepping foot on Kentucky's campus.

The worst part about this forum is when we have these long threads that end up being just people debating heights for 90% of the posts, with childish back and forth debating an inch here or there. It's insufferable. We'll find out more accurate measurements closer to the draft. In the meantime, the all we can go off is the article I just posted in this post..

Rondo, Morant, Garland. Those guys all defensive liabilities, guys who can only play in short spurts off the bench?

and...you're just stating your opinion. Thing about my opinion is it's educated unlike that dumb post you submitted as some sort of proof

https://news.yahoo.com/john-calipari-taking-big-gamble-110000646.html

If you can't see that Dillingham is clearly an inch shorter than both Sheppard and Wagner then there's no hope for you.

1) That picture doesn't prove anything with a bunch of guys standing at different angles, on different parts of the court, some hunching over, some standing straight up, some are standing closer to the camera than others, etc. Sheppard also has high hair so that pic makes him look taller..

2) Even if Rob is an inch shorter than Sheppard and Wagner, Sheppard and Wagner could be 6'3" which makes Rob 6'2". I've already said I'm guessing Rob is 6'2"..and guessing is all any of us are doing.

Now let's try to talk basketball here. All these threads that are just filled with posts that argue whether a guy is an inch taller/shorter is lame. I mean for crying out loud, Payton Pritchard has been in the league for 4 seasons now and we still don't know for sure if he's 6'1" or 6'2"...some sites list him 6'1", some sites list him 6'2". Who really gives a sh*t. What matters is what he does on the court.

And GTFO with this Trae and Garland can't be on a team that can make a deep playoff run BS. Trae and Garland are all-stars, franchise cornerstones and still very young. If a guy that good was in this draft, they'd probably be going no. 1..or at the worst, no. 2 in the draft.

Trae led his team to ECF at age 22. Sure, Ja is more athletic than Rob but Rob is a way better shooter. Also, Ja is listed at 6'2, not 6'3" like you claim.
https://www.nba.com/player/1629630/ja-morant
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2019/05/16/nba-draft-combine-ja-morant/3699412002/

Rondo was a good defender but he wasn't close to the shooter that Rob is.

I'm not saying Rob is as good as these guys, but even a poor man's version could be worth a top 5 pick in this draft.

Rob's combination of speed + shooting + playmaking and production as an 18 yr old high major freshman is enough to have him in the conversation for a top 5 pick - especially in a weaker draft.

If you disagree, then fine but bring a better argument than "he's too small now I'll prove it by posting a picture of a bunch of guys standing at different angles and standing at different closeness to the camera".

[MemphisX]

lol he's Trae Young size and there is no way in hell Trae is 6-2

He is almost exactly Trae's size.

lol you measured in person?

No, I have google. Trae was measured before the draft and Dillingham was measured at OTE.

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He is almost exactly Trae's size.

lol you measured in person?

No, I have google. Trae was measured before the draft and Dillingham was measured at OTE.

Yeah at the combine, Trae measured 6'1.75" in shoes. But throughout his NBA career, he's been listed at 6'1" since they decided to not round up...since technically, he measured just shy of 6'2".

As for Rob, he was measured 6'1.5" in shoes with OTE but that was 9 months ago. It's certainly possible that he's grown an inch or 2 since then, considering he's still only 18. There's multiple sites that have listed Rob at 6'2" or 6'3" more recently than that OTE measurement.

And even if he's the same size as Trae, is that a bad thing? Trae is a really good NBA player..if we knew Rob would end up being as good as Trae, he'd surely go no. 1 (or at the worst, no. 2) in this draft..

[MemphisX]

lol you measured in person?

No, I have google. Trae was measured before the draft and Dillingham was measured at OTE.

Yeah at the combine, Trae measured 6'1.75" in shoes. But throughout his NBA career, he's been listed at 6'1" since they decided to not round up...since technically, he measured just shy of 6'2".

As for Rob, he was measured 6'1.5" in shoes with OTE but that was 9 months ago. It's certainly possible that he's grown an inch or 2 since then, considering he's still only 18. There's multiple sites that have listed Rob at 6'2" or 6'3" more recently than that OTE measurement.

And even if he's the same size as Trae, is that a bad thing? Trae is a really good NBA player..if we knew Rob would end up being as good as Trae, he'd surely go no. 1 (or at the worst, no. 2) in this draft..

Oh, I have Rob #1 already.

[FarBeyondDriven]

another backcourt went off on the Kentucky guards highlighting the issues they're all going to have staying on the court in the NBA. Sheppard is the smartest defender. Dillingham the quickest. Wagner the overall best. But they'll all be hunted due to their lack of size and length. That's why they shouldn't be considered top 10 or even lottery picks. I don't think NBA teams want to use lottery picks on end of rotation guys.

[MemphisX]

another backcourt went off on the Kentucky guards highlighting the issues they're all going to have staying on the court in the NBA. Sheppard is the smartest defender. Dillingham the quickest. Wagner the overall best. But they'll all be hunted due to their lack of size and length. That's why they shouldn't be considered top 10 or even lottery picks. I don't think NBA teams want to use lottery picks on end of rotation guys.

So what is your lottery right now?