Who Would You Rather Have: Alperen Sengun or Chet Holmgren?

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Who Would You Rather Have: Alperen Sengun or Chet Holmgren?

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Chet Holmgren
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Re: Who Would You Rather Have: Alperen Sengun or Chet Holmgren? 

Post#101 » by WillyJakkz » Thu Jan 11, 2024 3:40 am

Ok Chet is a baller but have y'all REALLY been watching Alpy work?

Are y'all seeing him put HOU on his back vs CHI?

His #'s are as astounding as his play.

This guy is the truth!
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Re: Who Would You Rather Have: Alperen Sengun or Chet Holmgren? 

Post#102 » by Chokic » Thu Jan 11, 2024 3:43 am

Sengun will be a mvp candidate in the future I'm not so sure about holmgren.
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Re: Who Would You Rather Have: Alperen Sengun or Chet Holmgren? 

Post#103 » by WillyJakkz » Thu Jan 11, 2024 3:46 am

Andrew_M08 wrote:Chet Holmgren has the higher potential ceiling but due to injury risk i went with Sengun


Are we sure?

And when you say higher potential ceiling in what way?

Shotblocking yes. Is Chet going to be a better rebounder? Better offensive player? Better 3pt shooter? Better ball handler? Better ft shooter etc?

I can't honestly say he'll be better in any one of those categories outside of maybe 3pt shooting and that's a maybe.
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Re: Who Would You Rather Have: Alperen Sengun or Chet Holmgren? 

Post#104 » by lethalizer » Thu Jan 11, 2024 3:51 am

WillyJakkz wrote:
Andrew_M08 wrote:Chet Holmgren has the higher potential ceiling but due to injury risk i went with Sengun


Are we sure?

And when you say higher potential ceiling in what way?

Shotblocking yes. Is Chet going to be a better rebounder? Better offensive player? Better 3pt shooter? Better ball handler? Better ft shooter etc?

I can't honestly say he'll be better in any one of those categories outside of maybe 3pt shooting and that's a maybe.


"Outside of maybe 3 point shooting and that's a maybe"

Needed that laugh mate, thanks a lot.

(Alpy is a career 28.2 percent three point shooter and he's shooting 29.7 percent on the season thus far)
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Re: Who Would You Rather Have: Alperen Sengun or Chet Holmgren? 

Post#105 » by NBA4Lyfe » Thu Jan 11, 2024 3:56 am

holmgren easily
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Re: Who Would You Rather Have: Alperen Sengun or Chet Holmgren? 

Post#106 » by WillyJakkz » Thu Jan 11, 2024 4:03 am

lethalizer wrote:
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Andrew_M08 wrote:Chet Holmgren has the higher potential ceiling but due to injury risk i went with Sengun


Are we sure?

And when you say higher potential ceiling in what way?

Shotblocking yes. Is Chet going to be a better rebounder? Better offensive player? Better 3pt shooter? Better ball handler? Better ft shooter etc?

I can't honestly say he'll be better in any one of those categories outside of maybe 3pt shooting and that's a maybe.


"Outside of maybe 3 point shooting and that's a maybe"

Needed that laugh mate, thanks a lot.

(Alpy is a career 28.2 percent three point shooter and he's shooting 29.7 percent on the season thus far)


:lol: glad you got a chuckle but only refuted the 3pt shooting part lol

I'm basing it off of what was quoted "potential ceiling".

Alpy has got a sweet touch on his shot as is while Chet shoots with great form.

They are both young so I can't say Alpy won't get better at shooting the 3 as Chet may improve also.

Neither are finished products yet however if they improve on what they already can do then Alperen has shown he has better basketball skills than Chet.
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Re: Who Would You Rather Have: Alperen Sengun or Chet Holmgren? 

Post#107 » by QPR » Thu Jan 11, 2024 4:08 am

I think every GM would take Chet and that's not a slight on Sengun. But very few players have Chet's skillset and size at both ends.
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Re: Who Would You Rather Have: Alperen Sengun or Chet Holmgren? 

Post#108 » by DCasey91 » Thu Jan 11, 2024 4:11 am

Chokic wrote:Sengun will be a mvp candidate in the future I'm not so sure about holmgren.


Then you clearly don’t watch him. Like both and I’m of the opposite opinion.
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Re: Who Would You Rather Have: Alperen Sengun or Chet Holmgren? 

Post#109 » by NBA4Lyfe » Thu Jan 11, 2024 4:18 am

DCasey91 wrote:
Chokic wrote:Sengun will be a mvp candidate in the future I'm not so sure about holmgren.


Then you clearly don’t watch him. Like both and I’m of the opposite opinion.



senguns ceiling is damontas sabonis, neither are great defenders which makes them easily exploitable againist pick and roll guards.

Holgrem is more of a modern big, give me him 10/10 over sengun
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Re: Who Would You Rather Have: Alperen Sengun or Chet Holmgren? 

Post#110 » by WillyJakkz » Thu Jan 11, 2024 4:19 am

DCasey91 wrote:
Chokic wrote:Sengun will be a mvp candidate in the future I'm not so sure about holmgren.


Then you clearly don’t watch him. Like both and I’m of the opposite opinion.


Wait what?

Please elaborate. What is Chet showing you to make you say he can be a future MVP candidate?
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Re: Who Would You Rather Have: Alperen Sengun or Chet Holmgren? 

Post#111 » by lethalizer » Thu Jan 11, 2024 4:36 am

WillyJakkz wrote:
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WillyJakkz wrote:
Are we sure?

And when you say higher potential ceiling in what way?

Shotblocking yes. Is Chet going to be a better rebounder? Better offensive player? Better 3pt shooter? Better ball handler? Better ft shooter etc?

I can't honestly say he'll be better in any one of those categories outside of maybe 3pt shooting and that's a maybe.


"Outside of maybe 3 point shooting and that's a maybe"

Needed that laugh mate, thanks a lot.

(Alpy is a career 28.2 percent three point shooter and he's shooting 29.7 percent on the season thus far)


:lol: glad you got a chuckle but only refuted the 3pt shooting part lol

I'm basing it off of what was quoted "potential ceiling".

Alpy has got a sweet touch on his shot as is while Chet shoots with great form.

They are both young so I can't say Alpy won't get better at shooting the 3 as Chet may improve also.

Neither are finished products yet however if they improve on what they already can do then Alperen has shown he has better basketball skills than Chet.


Chet is shooting 40 percent from three as a rookie. If he improves from THAT, that's basically game over lol.

He has volume on his side too, basically attempting double the amount of Alpy.

To get to the other parts of your comment, defensive gap between them is the size of an ocean.

You even mentioned FT there, Chet has a huge advantage on him as well.

The only clear cut advantage Alpy has over Chet is playmaking skills overall, which is a huge advantage I'm not denying that. But listing "only threes, and calling it amaybe" is really wild.
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Re: Who Would You Rather Have: Alperen Sengun or Chet Holmgren? 

Post#112 » by DCasey91 » Thu Jan 11, 2024 4:37 am

WillyJakkz wrote:
DCasey91 wrote:
Chokic wrote:Sengun will be a mvp candidate in the future I'm not so sure about holmgren.


Then you clearly don’t watch him. Like both and I’m of the opposite opinion.


Wait what?

Please elaborate. What is Chet showing you to make you say he can be a future MVP candidate?


How polished he is and his understanding of the game is way beyond his years especially for a big. So many little things go unnoticed being on a great young team

He doesn’t force anything yet can being 7ft 1, super unselfish, low turnover eco which is great for his size.

The shooting, handling, FT conversion, defensive awareness and shot blocking capacity and elite portability is all there

KD/Dirk together only had a couple of 20 FGA’s seasons and would be considered low usage superstars in relative terms (even more so today)

There’s hasn’t been a change when Shai is on vs off so far ORTG and efficiency wise and if it stays that way then watch out.

I honestly am more comfortable in Chet getting to his ceiling and potential than Wemby.

A KD/Dirk hybrid while being a top 10 defender is certainly MVP material in my eyes.

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Look at how easy and comfortable it is on court. Allowing 5 out offensive spread, two man games inside/out, concepts of spacing, shooting form, big man fundamentals it’s all there.
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Re: Who Would You Rather Have: Alperen Sengun or Chet Holmgren? 

Post#113 » by Gary Cokeman » Thu Jan 11, 2024 9:17 am

NBA4Lyfe wrote:
DCasey91 wrote:
Chokic wrote:Sengun will be a mvp candidate in the future I'm not so sure about holmgren.


Then you clearly don’t watch him. Like both and I’m of the opposite opinion.



senguns ceiling is damontas sabonis, neither are great defenders which makes them easily exploitable againist pick and roll guards.

Holgrem is more of a modern big, give me him 10/10 over sengun


Lol have you ever actually seen Sengun play? He's 21 and already better than any version of Sabonis but thats his ceiling? :crazy:
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Re: Who Would You Rather Have: Alperen Sengun or Chet Holmgren? 

Post#114 » by Frankie » Thu Jan 11, 2024 10:56 am

There are very very few players in this league I would swap Sengun for. Chet isn't one of them. I wouldn't even take the deal if the Thunder attached picks to Chet. I just know we have a future superstar on our hands.
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Re: Who Would You Rather Have: Alperen Sengun or Chet Holmgren? 

Post#115 » by C0bR » Thu Jan 11, 2024 11:14 am

Combining DPOY anchorage with 40%+ three point shooting AND the ability to put it on the floor as a C is a gamebreaking skillset and the league has never really seen anyone like Chet. There were some prototypes but non as complete or fully realized. And he'll only get a lot better.

I'll take it over being an offensive hub unless we're talking a 100th percentile, Jokic like development.
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Re: Who Would You Rather Have: Alperen Sengun or Chet Holmgren? 

Post#116 » by Shock Defeat » Thu Jan 11, 2024 11:15 am

Sengun is baby jokic
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Re: Who Would You Rather Have: Alperen Sengun or Chet Holmgren? 

Post#117 » by QingJames » Thu Jan 11, 2024 11:41 am

Chet by far. It would be a more interesting question if Chet had a mediocre offensive game, but he’s great on offense while also being worlds beyond Sengun on defense. It’s
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Re: Who Would You Rather Have: Alperen Sengun or Chet Holmgren? 

Post#118 » by _NoMas » Thu Jan 11, 2024 12:20 pm

Gary Cokeman wrote:
NBA4Lyfe wrote:
DCasey91 wrote:
Then you clearly don’t watch him. Like both and I’m of the opposite opinion.



senguns ceiling is damontas sabonis, neither are great defenders which makes them easily exploitable againist pick and roll guards.

Holgrem is more of a modern big, give me him 10/10 over sengun


Lol have you ever actually seen Sengun play? He's 21 and already better than any version of Sabonis but thats his ceiling? :crazy:


He’s better then any version of a 3X all star who made an all nba team last year :crazy:
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Re: Who Would You Rather Have: Alperen Sengun or Chet Holmgren? 

Post#119 » by Jeff Van Gully » Thu Jan 11, 2024 2:02 pm

this is really tough. should be closer, but i went chet. love them both. early believer in both. gonna be great bigs to watch for years to come, health permitting.

i am not taking a thing away from sengun's mettle. his game is smooth and i don't confuse that for weakness in any way. but chet is a KILLER killer, and i love it.
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Re: Who Would You Rather Have: Alperen Sengun or Chet Holmgren? 

Post#120 » by timO » Thu Jan 11, 2024 3:43 pm

Frankie wrote:There are very very few players in this league I would swap Sengun for. Chet isn't one of them. I wouldn't even take the deal if the Thunder attached picks to Chet. I just know we have a future superstar on our hands.


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