PG Celtics - Domination

sidney lanier · Post #41 » by **sidney lanier** » Fri Jan 12, 2024 4:26 am

Denial then anger come first
The stages of Grief are the worst
Griffin haters are glum
They want losses to come
And this winning is something they cursed.

Post #42 » by **MickeyDavis** » Fri Jan 12, 2024 4:36 am

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Ron Swanson · Post #43 » by **Ron Swanson** » Fri Jan 12, 2024 4:38 am

nagawicka · Post #44 » by **nagawicka** » Fri Jan 12, 2024 4:44 am

MickeyDavis wrote:

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Couldn't dream up better quotes.

yb90 · Post #45 » by **yb90** » Fri Jan 12, 2024 4:58 am

You can't sell high on Beasley because of his contract. I guess if you package it with Pat maybe you can get something. I think you keep Beasley and sell high on Payne while his numbers are still good. His playing time seems to be getting less and less. This teams really needs a combo point big enough to play pair with Lillard or Beasley and keep their time together on the floor short/situational. The only guys I can think of like that are Wright, Caruso, Smart, and Brogdon. Smart is probably not available and his shooting is suspect. Another buy low guy who could fit, despite having a bad year, would be Dinwiddie. Only 2 of Midd, Lill, and Beas should be on the floor at 1 time.

Players I'd trade are Lopez, Payne, Pat, and Marj. I would say Bobby but his contract won't bring you back as much value as Lopez could possibly.

theFireBlanket · Post #46 » by **theFireBlanket** » Fri Jan 12, 2024 5:04 am

sidney lanier wrote:Denial then anger come first
The stages of Grief are the worst
Griffin haters are glum
They want losses to come
And this winning is something they cursed.

Actually, I wanted this win & prefer if this was the norm.

Unfortunately it hasn't been pretty. Especially recently.

If we're stuck with him, hopefully its because he has learned to adapt.

fan230 · Post #47 » by **fan230** » Fri Jan 12, 2024 5:11 am

Khris played really good defense today after a long time. That made a difference.

midranger · Post #48 » by **midranger** » Fri Jan 12, 2024 5:29 am

Not a big Griff fan obviously, but if our guys come out with even 85% of the focus and intensity they demonstrated in the first half tonight, they cruise to 60 wins.

At some point, you can’t completely absolve this very veteran group of players of their often dumb and lackluster play despite the obvious mismatch of talent/system.

Post #49 » by **Prez** » Fri Jan 12, 2024 5:32 am

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Packbuckman · Post #50 » by **Packbuckman** » Fri Jan 12, 2024 5:33 am

fan230 wrote:Khris played really good defense today after a long time. That made a difference.

Yes he did moved his feet stayed in front of Tatum so did Jackson.

theFireBlanket · Post #51 » by **theFireBlanket** » Fri Jan 12, 2024 6:08 am

midranger wrote:Not a big Griff fan obviously, but if our guys come out with even 85% of the focus and intensity they demonstrated in the first half tonight, they cruise to 60 wins.

At some point, you can’t completely absolve this very veteran group of players of their often dumb and lackluster play despite the obvious mismatch of talent/system.

Dame hitting shots early was good for momentum. And Bobby pouring in 28.

Wonder how much Gleeson is impacting the constant kicks for better looks. The passing was excellent in this game.

mediocrityrules · Post #52 » by **mediocrityrules** » Fri Jan 12, 2024 6:09 am

ShootingtheJ wrote:
msiris wrote:sell high on Bobby.

You spelled Beasley wrong. AJ Green can provide everything Beas does, plus more, but that isn't what we need from the SG anyway. Sell high on Beas, and then go get what we need.

Would AJ Green be the best 3pt shooter in the league? Because that's essentially where Beas is right now. He's leading the league in 3pt%. You might get a Sam Merrill-type that will be great in spurts with Green, but then really come back to earth. Beas feels like his shooting is sustainable. Obviously you're never going to have a better time to sell, but if this is going to be the norm (because of the space that Giannis/Dame create) do you want to give that level of shooting up? I'd be looking at Payne, Marjon, Patty (even Green) if I want to move on assets. Not Beas at this stage.

James1980 · Post #53 » by **James1980** » Fri Jan 12, 2024 6:11 am

Was not expecting that performance

theFireBlanket · Post #54 » by **theFireBlanket** » Fri Jan 12, 2024 6:19 am

mediocrityrules wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:
msiris wrote:sell high on Bobby.

You spelled Beasley wrong. AJ Green can provide everything Beas does, plus more, but that isn't what we need from the SG anyway. Sell high on Beas, and then go get what we need.

Would AJ Green be the best 3pt shooter in the league? Because that's essentially where Beas is right now. He's leading the league in 3pt%. You might get a Sam Merrill-type that will be great in spurts with Green, but then really come back to earth. Beas feels like his shooting is sustainable. Obviously you're never going to have a better time to sell, but if this is going to be the norm (because of the space that Giannis/Dame create) do you want to give that level of shooting up? I'd be looking at Payne, Marjon, Patty (even Green) if I want to move on assets. Not Beas at this stage.

Van Gundy was puzzled why Beasley didn't have similar shooting numbers in LA. I think its pretty plausible that this is just a hot streak & he comes back down to Earth.

But he has motivation to earn a new contract, so he may not.

If Beas can improve his defense, he'll be fine continuing to start. Although Khris seems to be getting better on D with every game & more reps.

While it makes it less crucial, he'd still be better off committing to being an all-around player.

Hopefully Giannis rubs off on him in that regard.

FrieAaron · Post #55 » by **FrieAaron** » Fri Jan 12, 2024 7:02 am

That was a lot more enjoyable to watch than the Jazz game. Hard to make too much out of it given the shooting differential but hopefully we can build on something

RiotPunch · Post #56 » by **RiotPunch** » Fri Jan 12, 2024 7:32 am

Credit where credit is due, the guys came out like bats out of hell in this one and Boston couldn't match. B2B, 5th game in 7 nights, yadayadayada.

The great shooting early really demoralized them, and then without Horford, you can see why they are aggressively on the market for bench upgrades. Just obliterated their 2nd unit in that 2nd quarter.

There was one play in particular where Khris sloppily went behind the back, somehow regained control of the ball, and rifled a pass into heavy traffic to Giannis for a dunk where you just know it's your night.

Celtics also apparently didn't get the memo to spam PnR situations for floaters. They got some easy dunks early but did not go to that well nearly enough. They might actually be a favorable matchup for Grief's style. Brown, Tatum, and Jrue get real panicky with the ball when the defender is in their grill.

I'm sure Stevens will address their issues by the deadline, but this team as constructed cannot stop Giannis (unless Horford once again discovers the fountain of youth) and their bench is worse than ours.

When you take the Celtics to the woodshed, it is a good day. Every time. But goddamn, just when you think you've got Grief dead to rights, he pulls a **** rabbit out of his hat.

Sigra · Post #57 » by **Sigra** » Fri Jan 12, 2024 10:10 am

MickeyDavis wrote:BA: "Boston is very good on the second of back to backs"

Also BA: "Boston is losing because they're on a B2B"

Boston this year on the second of back to backs:
W against Toronto - first game against Nets (both at home)
L against Charlotte
W against Orlando - first game against Cavs (both at home)
W against Kings - first game against Warriors (both at road) - very short trip because San Francisco and Sacramento are neighbors
W against Toronto - first game against Pistons (both at home)
W against Indiana - first game against Utah

L against Bucks - first game OT win against best team at west. Now without Horford and on road

Nothing compare with this. They were extremely tired against us.

Plus, they are 18-0 at home and 11-9 at road. We are 17-4 at home and 9-8 at road. This game was in Milwaukee.

I mean, I understand being happy about Bucks win. Especially against Celtics. But we really didn't learn anything from this game. Only that players didnt quit on coach. Thats something I guess.

JayMKE · Post #58 » by **JayMKE** » Fri Jan 12, 2024 11:08 am

Strategic stealth Celtics tank

Figured Bucks would hit 20+ 3 pointers to save Griffin’s job, wouldn’t count on it next game. Nothing has changed.

ShootingtheJ · Post #59 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Fri Jan 12, 2024 11:37 am

theFireBlanket wrote:
mediocrityrules wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:
You spelled Beasley wrong. AJ Green can provide everything Beas does, plus more, but that isn't what we need from the SG anyway. Sell high on Beas, and then go get what we need.

Would AJ Green be the best 3pt shooter in the league? Because that's essentially where Beas is right now. He's leading the league in 3pt%. You might get a Sam Merrill-type that will be great in spurts with Green, but then really come back to earth. Beas feels like his shooting is sustainable. Obviously you're never going to have a better time to sell, but if this is going to be the norm (because of the space that Giannis/Dame create) do you want to give that level of shooting up? I'd be looking at Payne, Marjon, Patty (even Green) if I want to move on assets. Not Beas at this stage.

Van Gundy was puzzled why Beasley didn't have similar shooting numbers in LA. I think its pretty plausible that this is just a hot streak & he comes back down to Earth.

But he has motivation to earn a new contract, so he may not.

If Beas can improve his defense, he'll be fine continuing to start. Although Khris seems to be getting better on D with every game & more reps.

While it makes it less crucial, he'd still be better off committing to being an all-around player.

Hopefully Giannis rubs off on him in that regard.

Beas improve his defense? Not happening, he has no lateral quickness. He's been in the league a long time, and several teams have already moved on from him because of his defense.

ShootingtheJ · Post #60 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Fri Jan 12, 2024 11:53 am

mediocrityrules wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:
msiris wrote:sell high on Bobby.

You spelled Beasley wrong. AJ Green can provide everything Beas does, plus more, but that isn't what we need from the SG anyway. Sell high on Beas, and then go get what we need.

Would AJ Green be the best 3pt shooter in the league? Because that's essentially where Beas is right now. He's leading the league in 3pt%. You might get a Sam Merrill-type that will be great in spurts with Green, but then really come back to earth. Beas feels like his shooting is sustainable. Obviously you're never going to have a better time to sell, but if this is going to be the norm (because of the space that Giannis/Dame create) do you want to give that level of shooting up? I'd be looking at Payne, Marjon, Patty (even Green) if I want to move on assets. Not Beas at this stage.

Green is an absolutely phenomenal shooter, Beas shot 35% from 3 last year. Green is far more sustainable, especially if he got dropped into the dream lineup Beas gets all his minutes in. Then

Then you get to the rest of their game, where Green is better in every phase, defense, ball handling, passing.