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Re: 2023 Season 

Post#461 » by CrimsonCrew » Fri Jan 12, 2024 8:56 pm

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RIPskaterdude wrote:He's gone

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Damn. That's a loss. Hard to say, but I think Peters is the primary reason we've been so good in the later rounds. In terms of the draft, at least, I strongly prefer Peters to Shanahan and Lynch. It will be really interesting to see how this shakes out in the years ahead. Good chance he poaches some talent.
I have no doubt that BA is already priced out of 49ers market for next year and former 49ers executives in Tennessee and now Washington will be giving him top dollar


I think it's feasible we could keep him. For this upcoming year, his salary would probably be reduced if we signed him long term. Kittle is pretty cuttable after this season (almost $10 million in cap savings if we move on from him). That's hard to even think about, but those are some of the hard decisions we're facing once we have to pay Brock. Deebo also has an out after next season.

The Deebo-Aiyuk debate is a tough one. Deebo is so unique and important to what this team does. But he's had injury issues, he's had some weight and effort issues. He's not the blocker Aiyuk is (he can be, but he's not consistently), he dogs it on routes when the ball isn't going to him. But he and Trent are kind of the heart and soul of this offense, and losing them both would be a huge blow.

If they can't re-sign Aiyuk, they should probably be looking at his trade market this year. As good as he's been, WR is a position where you can find talent pretty consistently in the draft, and guys who can contribute early in their careers. If they can't keep him, they should strongly consider moving him for a first or more, and trying to replace him with a cheaper guy. Would hate to lose him and only get a late-third back.
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Re: 2023 Season 

Post#462 » by CrimsonCrew » Fri Jan 12, 2024 8:57 pm

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CrimsonCrew wrote:Adam Peters is a finalist for the Washington job. REALLY don't want to lose him. Lynch has been a pleasant surprise as a GM, although again, that's in part because my expectations were fairly low. But we have tended to struggle in the early rounds of the draft, while really excelling in the later rounds.

My interpretation has long been that Shanahan and Lynch are more involved in the early rounds, where they fall in love with guys, tend to move up for them, and see them bust as often as not. Then, in the later rounds, they rely more on Peters and the area scouts as they aren't as familiar with the less-heralded players. If they lose Peters, they'd better have a talent lined up to take on his role, and it's not hard to imagine a real slip in turning up late-round studs.
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We don't get a compensatory draft pick for him, do we?


You never know. I didn't think we would for Saleh, and I actually joked about getting one for McDaniel. But wouldn't hold my breath on this one....
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Re: 2023 Season 

Post#463 » by thesack12 » Fri Jan 12, 2024 9:09 pm

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We don't get a compensatory draft pick for him, do we?


You never know. I didn't think we would for Saleh, and I actually joked about getting one for McDaniel. But wouldn't hold my breath on this one....


Yeah, I had no idea that McDaniel was biracial.

I suppose its possible that Peters has some sort of minority heritage, but I agree I'm not holding my breath on that one either.
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Re: 2023 Season 

Post#464 » by RIPskaterdude » Fri Jan 12, 2024 9:29 pm

It's also entirely possible that if the team wins a SB this year, Trent may retire.
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Re: 2023 Season 

Post#465 » by CrimsonCrew » Fri Jan 12, 2024 9:32 pm

RIPskaterdude wrote:It's also entirely possible that if the team wins a SB this year, Trent may retire.


That's a definite possibility.
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Re: 2023 Season 

Post#466 » by thesack12 » Fri Jan 12, 2024 9:39 pm

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RIPskaterdude wrote:It's also entirely possible that if the team wins a SB this year, Trent may retire.


That's a definite possibility.


I've said this before.... All things considered, I think most of us would be happy to see that happen.
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Re: 2023 Season 

Post#467 » by arich35 » Sat Jan 13, 2024 2:31 am

I really want to keep talking about this season lol
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Re: 2023 Season 

Post#468 » by Jikkle » Sat Jan 13, 2024 10:26 am

CrimsonCrew wrote:
RIPskaterdude wrote:It's also entirely possible that if the team wins a SB this year, Trent may retire.


That's a definite possibility.


It is but usually once the dust settles and all the swirling emotions calm down they look at how big that paycheck will be next year and they come back more often than naught. Think his base salary is something like 20 million next season so that's a pretty good reason to come back for at least another year.

For me if I was a player that could still play at a high level and making millions of bucks I'd come back until my body and play slipped to a point where it's time to hang them up. These guys will never get anywhere close to that kind of earning potential again in their lives so might as well maximize it.
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Re: 2023 Season 

Post#469 » by Jikkle » Sat Jan 13, 2024 10:37 am

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I just don't want to see Rams. Hopefully Lions take care of them and we get Bucs. That would be ideal. Then in the NFC Title game we get Lions. Jared Goff's record isn't great at all outdoors and especially on grass.


Despite their end of season tail spin, I still really don't want to see the Eagles next week.

Their strengths match up with the 9ers' weaknesses. Philly sports a strong running game, and the 9ers run D is suspect. Despite what happened in the matchup earlier in the year, the 9ers are still really susceptible to getting hurt by mobile QB's and we all know Hurts can do damage with his legs. They have a very strong O-line, and the 9ers DL/pass rush doesn't seem to win in the trench battle very often.

Defensively they have the ability to create a really strong pass rush, and we know that the OL's weak point is pass protection. Their secondary is beatable, but if Purdy doesn't have time they can mitigate the suspect secondary.

Plus if the 9ers are looking at a 2nd round matchup with Philly, that of course will mean that they won their 1st playoff game. Which very well could help them build confidence and trigger them to right their ship going forward.


The only two teams that I truly fear in the playoffs are the Ravens and Browns because they both have defenses that really foil Shanahan's scheme.

The offense becomes a mess when the opposing defense is talented enough that Shanahan can't exploit mismatches. The defensive line blows up the offensive line crippling the run and the offensive line can't block long enough to allow the time for guys to get open.

That doesn't mean I don't think any of the other teams are capable of beating us because if you're in the playoffs even if you're a "bad" playoff team you're still good enough that you can hang with anyone.

As far as the Eagles go they are perfectly capable of beating us but they are a complete mess and it's hard to see them flipping a switch and figuring it out on the fly. Because unless they just completely dismantle the Bucs they'll still be limping into the game against us. Eagles were probably the team out of every team in the playoffs that really could've used that #1 seed and bye week to try to get things functional again.
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Re: 2023 Season 

Post#470 » by Samurai » Sun Jan 14, 2024 10:43 pm

Packers are looking awfully strong against the Cowboys so far. Like strong enough that they could pose a very serious threat to the Niners.
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Re: 2023 Season 

Post#471 » by arich35 » Sun Jan 14, 2024 10:52 pm

Good lord Dak **** the bed so easily
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Re: 2023 Season 

Post#472 » by RIPskaterdude » Sun Jan 14, 2024 10:55 pm

Green Bay it is
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Re: 2023 Season 

Post#473 » by 49er4life1979 » Sun Jan 14, 2024 11:22 pm

Jikkle wrote:
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I just don't want to see Rams. Hopefully Lions take care of them and we get Bucs. That would be ideal. Then in the NFC Title game we get Lions. Jared Goff's record isn't great at all outdoors and especially on grass.


Despite their end of season tail spin, I still really don't want to see the Eagles next week.

Their strengths match up with the 9ers' weaknesses. Philly sports a strong running game, and the 9ers run D is suspect. Despite what happened in the matchup earlier in the year, the 9ers are still really susceptible to getting hurt by mobile QB's and we all know Hurts can do damage with his legs. They have a very strong O-line, and the 9ers DL/pass rush doesn't seem to win in the trench battle very often.

Defensively they have the ability to create a really strong pass rush, and we know that the OL's weak point is pass protection. Their secondary is beatable, but if Purdy doesn't have time they can mitigate the suspect secondary.

Plus if the 9ers are looking at a 2nd round matchup with Philly, that of course will mean that they won their 1st playoff game. Which very well could help them build confidence and trigger them to right their ship going forward.


The only two teams that I truly fear in the playoffs are the Ravens and Browns because they both have defenses that really foil Shanahan's scheme.

The offense becomes a mess when the opposing defense is talented enough that Shanahan can't exploit mismatches. The defensive line blows up the offensive line crippling the run and the offensive line can't block long enough to allow the time for guys to get open.

That doesn't mean I don't think any of the other teams are capable of beating us because if you're in the playoffs even if you're a "bad" playoff team you're still good enough that you can hang with anyone.

As far as the Eagles go they are perfectly capable of beating us but they are a complete mess and it's hard to see them flipping a switch and figuring it out on the fly. Because unless they just completely dismantle the Bucs they'll still be limping into the game against us. Eagles were probably the team out of every team in the playoffs that really could've used that #1 seed and bye week to try to get things functional again.


Eagles may lose at Tampa. No AJ Brown and Hurts is banged up.
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Re: 2023 Season 

Post#474 » by RIPskaterdude » Sun Jan 14, 2024 11:36 pm

Would be hilarious if the division round is Rams vs Bucs and 49ers vs Packers
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Re: 2023 Season 

Post#475 » by arich35 » Sun Jan 14, 2024 11:37 pm

How long does it take for Jerry Jones to fire McCarthy and hire Belichick
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Re: 2023 Season 

Post#476 » by 49er4life1979 » Sun Jan 14, 2024 11:56 pm

We will be playing Green Bay. Gotta stop Aaron Jones.
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Re: 2023 Season 

Post#477 » by 49er4life1979 » Mon Jan 15, 2024 12:01 am

Repeat after me. I have been saying this all season- Dallas is overrated.
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Re: 2023 Season 

Post#478 » by Samurai » Mon Jan 15, 2024 12:13 am

arich35 wrote:Good lord Dak **** the bed so easily

Seems as though GB's "zone" scheme where it starts looking like a zone but suddenly turns into a man defense has Dak very confused. Hopefully Kyle the mad scientist is watching and can come up with a way for Purdy to exploit it. Until proven otherwise, I have faith in Kyle. Not as confident that Wilks can come up with a scheme to slow down Love and Jones.
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Re: 2023 Season 

Post#479 » by arich35 » Mon Jan 15, 2024 12:15 am

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arich35 wrote:Good lord Dak **** the bed so easily

Seems as though GB's "zone" scheme where it starts looking like a zone but suddenly turns into a man defense has Dak very confused. Hopefully Kyle the mad scientist is watching and can come up with a way for Purdy to exploit it. Until proven otherwise, I have faith in Kyle. Not as confident that Wilks can come up with a scheme to slow down Love and Jones.


I forsee a lot of CMC and Deebo screens & designed runs plus outside passes to Aiyuk and Kittle
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Re: 2023 Season 

Post#480 » by RIPskaterdude » Mon Jan 15, 2024 12:52 am

At least Dallas made the Packers bring back the starters
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