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Re: RJ Barrett Appreciation Thread 

Post#241 » by nedleeds » Wed Jan 17, 2024 9:48 pm

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He's 23. He's gonna be inconsistent and it should have been expected and accepted for one of the teams YOUNGEST players in the rotation all these years. It was an joke the way he was talked about around here. He's still 2-3 years younger than Julius was when he broke out. Double standard, agenda driven, trolling BS derailed every thread on here for 4+ years. No accountability. :o


Yea, he still has a few years before he even hits his prime. Lots of players such as Brunson and Randle have made leaps after 23. I think he'll get better. But can acknowledge there have been rough stretches


Nothing wrong with acknowledging his rough stretches. Almost all of his supporters have. It's not like the majority of the board was ever delusional over his production. The haters just lied and exaggerated everything while trolling the board for years.

and the 'RJ is bad deniers' looked at stark, clear, top 10 worst in the NBA metrics over 4 years, on massive massive usage that outstripped the leash given to hardly any other young player and called us haters.

We hated that the 3rd pick was a bad player. We hated that we were on a road to nowhere (and still mostly are) with R_ and Ran_le. Nobody hates RJ as a person yet his staunchest defenders despite him being Westbrook level awful constantly injected emotion into it. I'd argue RJ seems like as good a young player as you can ask for in terms of model citizen, great family, willing to work. That why he's so depressing on the court, all those positives translated into a guy who when compared against an average forward was wretched at basketball.
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Re: RJ Barrett Appreciation Thread 

Post#242 » by Jalen Bluntson » Wed Jan 17, 2024 10:00 pm

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Yea, he still has a few years before he even hits his prime. Lots of players such as Brunson and Randle have made leaps after 23. I think he'll get better. But can acknowledge there have been rough stretches


Nothing wrong with acknowledging his rough stretches. Almost all of his supporters have. It's not like the majority of the board was ever delusional over his production. The haters just lied and exaggerated everything while trolling the board for years.

and the 'RJ is bad deniers' looked at stark, clear, top 10 worst in the NBA metrics over 4 years, on massive massive usage that outstripped the leash given to hardly any other young player and called us haters.

We hated that the 3rd pick was a bad player. We hated that we were on a road to nowhere (and still mostly are) with R_ and Ran_le. Nobody hates RJ as a person yet his staunchest defenders despite him being Westbrook level awful constantly injected emotion into it. I'd argue RJ seems like as good a young player as you can ask for in terms of model citizen, great family, willing to work. That why he's so depressing on the court, all those positives translated into a guy who when compared against an average forward was wretched at basketball.


RJ supporters were just willing to give him time to put it all together. Haters made up their mind on draft night or a year into his career mostly. Don't try to act like it was anything different either. Those same clowns supported a player...no... worshipped a player who didn't find his way until he was 26 years old! Like MOST NBA players do.

People may be mad because they expected a superstar with that pick but, the only players in that draft on that level were picked ahead of us. So that's just ridiculous to use as an excuse.

Whatever. He's gone and people still trying to shyt on him and anyone who supported him. Mostly by lying like they have the entire time.
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Re: RJ Barrett Appreciation Thread 

Post#243 » by nedleeds » Wed Jan 17, 2024 11:09 pm

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Nothing wrong with acknowledging his rough stretches. Almost all of his supporters have. It's not like the majority of the board was ever delusional over his production. The haters just lied and exaggerated everything while trolling the board for years.

and the 'RJ is bad deniers' looked at stark, clear, top 10 worst in the NBA metrics over 4 years, on massive massive usage that outstripped the leash given to hardly any other young player and called us haters.

We hated that the 3rd pick was a bad player. We hated that we were on a road to nowhere (and still mostly are) with R_ and Ran_le. Nobody hates RJ as a person yet his staunchest defenders despite him being Westbrook level awful constantly injected emotion into it. I'd argue RJ seems like as good a young player as you can ask for in terms of model citizen, great family, willing to work. That why he's so depressing on the court, all those positives translated into a guy who when compared against an average forward was wretched at basketball.


RJ supporters were just willing to give him time to put it all together. Haters made up their mind on draft night or a year into his career mostly. Don't try to act like it was anything different either. Those same clowns supported a player...no... worshipped a player who didn't find his way until he was 26 years old! Like MOST NBA players do.

People may be mad because they expected a superstar with that pick but, the only players in that draft on that level were picked ahead of us. So that's just ridiculous to use as an excuse.

Whatever. He's gone and people still trying to shyt on him and anyone who supported him. Mostly by lying like they have the entire time.

Again you keep saying haters. I think I could take you seriously if you said, 'move on'ers' or 'disappointeders'.

Me specifically I was convinced after 21-22. He and his agent were dead set on averaging '20', to satiate the clue less casuals. All while chucking at a rate that could make Marcus Thorton or Jordan Crawford blush. RJ led the league in getting blocked and was a completely mind blowing -151.8 in shooting vs. league average. Not -50. Not -100. -151.8. There is just no player in league history who has ever been an all-star being that awful at making the ball go through the hoop, maybe some defensive wizard but RJ is an average defender at best. So when you pair how historically terrible he was, with the praise for 'gettin 20' I knew I was off him.

He's performed worse than Gerald Henderson and Alex Burks. If RJ was drafted by the Hawks or Pacers or Magic he'd be barely mentioned anywhere. He'd be a draft disappointment, moving on to a $8 million a year second chance role player contract. He'd never have been extended a totally moronic year early by a sane basketball driven front office.

Did I lose the handle and get mad or hate a few times, sure, but that was at total clowns comparing him to Paul Pierce, Dwayne Wade and Demar Derozan. Not RJ himself.
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Re: RJ Barrett Appreciation Thread 

Post#244 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Jan 17, 2024 11:20 pm

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nedleeds wrote:
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Nothing wrong with acknowledging his rough stretches. Almost all of his supporters have. It's not like the majority of the board was ever delusional over his production. The haters just lied and exaggerated everything while trolling the board for years.

and the 'RJ is bad deniers' looked at stark, clear, top 10 worst in the NBA metrics over 4 years, on massive massive usage that outstripped the leash given to hardly any other young player and called us haters.

We hated that the 3rd pick was a bad player. We hated that we were on a road to nowhere (and still mostly are) with R_ and Ran_le. Nobody hates RJ as a person yet his staunchest defenders despite him being Westbrook level awful constantly injected emotion into it. I'd argue RJ seems like as good a young player as you can ask for in terms of model citizen, great family, willing to work. That why he's so depressing on the court, all those positives translated into a guy who when compared against an average forward was wretched at basketball.


RJ supporters were just willing to give him time to put it all together. Haters made up their mind on draft night or a year into his career mostly. Don't try to act like it was anything different either. Those same clowns supported a player...no... worshipped a player who didn't find his way until he was 26 years old! Like MOST NBA players do.

People may be mad because they expected a superstar with that pick but, the only players in that draft on that level were picked ahead of us. So that's just ridiculous to use as an excuse.

Whatever. He's gone and people still trying to shyt on him and anyone who supported him. Mostly by lying like they have the entire time.

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Re: RJ Barrett Appreciation Thread 

Post#245 » by Moose » Wed Jan 17, 2024 11:23 pm

RJ wasn't that good of a player for the Knicks, but I think it's also fair to say that he can get better and be a positive on the floor. And that's what the Raptors are banking on

The Knicks wanted to get out from the contract and have different plans on how to build the roster

We are going to have about a 3-5 year window if they pull off what they're hoping

P.S. For me, it isn't RJ that stings, it's IQ. We need him (or someone like him or better) off the bench and eating up minutes at the 1-2 spot, if not starting at the 2 and also playing the 1 when Brunson isn't
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Post#246 » by KOA » Wed Jan 17, 2024 11:51 pm

Lots of posts on here won’t age well.
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Post#247 » by Jalen Bluntson » Wed Jan 17, 2024 11:51 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
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nedleeds wrote:and the 'RJ is bad deniers' looked at stark, clear, top 10 worst in the NBA metrics over 4 years, on massive massive usage that outstripped the leash given to hardly any other young player and called us haters.

We hated that the 3rd pick was a bad player. We hated that we were on a road to nowhere (and still mostly are) with R_ and Ran_le. Nobody hates RJ as a person yet his staunchest defenders despite him being Westbrook level awful constantly injected emotion into it. I'd argue RJ seems like as good a young player as you can ask for in terms of model citizen, great family, willing to work. That why he's so depressing on the court, all those positives translated into a guy who when compared against an average forward was wretched at basketball.


RJ supporters were just willing to give him time to put it all together. Haters made up their mind on draft night or a year into his career mostly. Don't try to act like it was anything different either. Those same clowns supported a player...no... worshipped a player who didn't find his way until he was 26 years old! Like MOST NBA players do.

People may be mad because they expected a superstar with that pick but, the only players in that draft on that level were picked ahead of us. So that's just ridiculous to use as an excuse.

Whatever. He's gone and people still trying to shyt on him and anyone who supported him. Mostly by lying like they have the entire time.

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Post#248 » by Galou » Thu Jan 18, 2024 12:13 am

I'm over it already. Idgaf ... let's forward please
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Post#249 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu Jan 18, 2024 12:23 am

Galou wrote:I'm over it already. Idgaf ... let's forward please


I am too. I have to stop getting pulled back into the discussion. I just can't read lies and exaggerations about what actually was going on around here. Shame on me.

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Post#250 » by KNIXFAN_83 » Thu Jan 18, 2024 4:14 am

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Post#251 » by cgmw » Thu Jan 18, 2024 4:29 am

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No Thibs iso-stagnation. No Randle taking up the same airspace.

Kid is going to do just fine despite the ridiculous haters.

Meanwhile, that’s a fun core-4 in Toronto (when Gary Trent hits 8-9 from three). Masai needs Scottie to bloom without Siakam, and I bet he does. Addition by subtraction IMO.

Something tells me we see a Knicks-Raptors playoff series next year.
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Post#252 » by dakomish23 » Thu Jan 18, 2024 5:07 am

Deeeez Knicks wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:RJ Barrett has a 65.3 TS% in his last 8 games.
Julius Randle has a 56.7 TS% in his last 8 games.

:o


For the season:

RJ Barrett: 56.1% TS
Julius Randle: 56.1% TS


I knew he was doing well but I didn’t see this coming b/c Randle has so many games where he makes like 60-70% from the floor while RJ good games are usually around 50% with the lows being like 20% :lol:
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Post#253 » by dakomish23 » Thu Jan 18, 2024 5:09 am

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All we had to do was trade Randle and picks and get a player that fit with the core youth. Building around Julius was by far one of the dumbest decisions this organization has ever made. Anyone with a brain can see Julius numbers are largely inflated with how he’s played with Thibs and hasn’t made anyone better. Leon to me has failed. And everyday keeps getting worse for Knicks fans because we are always reminded how far we are from a chip.


I wouldn’t go that far. What I do wish is that we somehow got OG last year to add to the group we had after Hart, which was my wish. That could have been something special
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Post#254 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Jan 18, 2024 7:16 am

RJ and IQ balled out last night. Raptors looked like they were having fun against the Heat.
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Post#255 » by Jabroni Lames » Thu Jan 18, 2024 2:35 pm

Looks like getting RJ the ball on the move was the key to unlocking his potential. Way to go, Thibs.

Also, Toronto has no lefties, so RJ can attack from that side and give the Raptors a different look.

Just a great fit for RJ.
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Post#256 » by djsunyc » Thu Jan 18, 2024 2:44 pm

Jabroni Lames wrote:Looks like getting RJ the ball on the move was the key to unlocking his potential. Way to go, Thibs.

Also, Toronto has no lefties, so RJ can attack from that side and give the Raptors a different look.

Just a great fit for RJ.


chiming in to say this again...what a great win/win trade this is. it's so rare in the league to get something like this done.
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Post#257 » by Reign23 » Thu Jan 18, 2024 2:48 pm

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Post#258 » by KNIXFAN_83 » Thu Jan 18, 2024 2:59 pm

Jabroni Lames wrote:Looks like getting RJ the ball on the move was the key to unlocking his potential. Way to go, Thibs.

Also, Toronto has no lefties, so RJ can attack from that side and give the Raptors a different look.

Just a great fit for RJ.


I have pretty much watched every Raptor game since the trade and their head coach is light years ahead of Thibs. First his rotations and substitution patterns only favor players who playing well and under control along with staggering for adjustments. Then he allows the guards and wings to push the ball unlike the Knicks where we are forced to play at Jalen and Julius slower pace. He also puts RJ in situations in the post and top of the key to attack downhill. We simply failed these two and the temperature will turn up if the Knicks bomb in the playoffs.
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Post#259 » by DaGawd » Thu Jan 18, 2024 3:04 pm

KNIXFAN_83 wrote:
Jabroni Lames wrote:Looks like getting RJ the ball on the move was the key to unlocking his potential. Way to go, Thibs.

Also, Toronto has no lefties, so RJ can attack from that side and give the Raptors a different look.

Just a great fit for RJ.


I have pretty much watched every Raptor game since the trade and their head coach is light years ahead of Thibs. First his rotations and substitution patterns only favor players who playing well and under control along with staggering for adjustments. Then he allows the guards and wings to push the ball unlike the Knicks where we are forced to play at Jalen and Julius slower pace. He also puts RJ in situations in the post and top of the key to attack downhill. We simply failed these two and the temperature will turn up if the Knicks bomb in the playoffs.

there’s a bunch of raptors fans who want their head coach gone already in his first season.. fans ain’t never happy :lol:
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Post#260 » by Iron Mantis » Thu Jan 18, 2024 3:24 pm

Thibs held RJ back.

Raps have 2 great young players in RJ and Quick. RJ's contract will soon look like a bargain.

Future is bright for that team. Barnes is a stud.
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