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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#941 » by Covi_Marsh » Fri Jan 19, 2024 2:24 am

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Heck yes for the Sixers. I don't know why Atlanta would do that, though.



This team undersized. Weak defensively and will get killed on the boards.



Meant to quote this post, not And1...........................


I disagree


Bogdanovic is a turnstile on defense lol. Him and Harris guarding Tatum and Brown would be like Boston doing shooting drills. Gotta find a way to keep Batum. Can’t shorten our wing depth for a 1 way player. Would love Bogdanovic as a 6th man.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#942 » by PhillyFan11 » Fri Jan 19, 2024 2:31 am

Reed, Springer, Korkmaz, and 3 2nd’s (‘24, ‘28 & ‘29)

To Charlotte for:

Miles Bridges and Nick Richards

Also dump House and remaining ‘24 2nd to avoid luxury tax

Maxey/Pat Bev
Melton/Oubre/KJ Martin
Bridges/RoCo
Tobi/Batum/Morris
Embiid/Richards/Bamba

Duck the media for a couple of weeks on Bridges and it all goes away if the team wins.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#943 » by stormi » Fri Jan 19, 2024 2:43 am

The more I look at Caruso's numbers the more I realize that they actually do a precise job of mirroring what Derrick White brings to the Celtics.

Caruso: 6'5 186lbs, 8.0 3PA Per 100 Poss at 41.5%, 2.6% Steal, 3.5% Block, 63.3 TS%, .575 3Par (attempt rate), .227 FTr

White: 6'4 190lbs, 9.8 3PA Per 100 Poss at 41.2%, 1.6% Steal, 3.2% Block, 62.9 TS%, .565 3Par (attempt rate), .245 FTr

Caruso rebounds slightly better, White passes slightly better. Both can defend up and down the lineup. Caruso is a +++ athlete for his size and locked up for an extra season.

We might be better off going all in on defensively versatile players that can shoot and are elite athletes and the Bulls have two names that fit the bill. Both Alex Caruso and Patrick Williams are low maintenance cogs that can be integrated into our core and raise our defensive resilience and give us legit options to toss on Brown, Lillard, Holiday (Caruso) and Tatum, Giannis, Horford (Williams).

Feels unrealistic though sadly, we don't have the tradable assets to make a splash as it currently stands. And who's out there anyways? Siakam is off the table. Markkanen is off the table. The Clippers wings are running it back. We have five tradeable firsts come summer, is our guy 5'11 Donovan Mitchell? Would be disheartening to see Morey decide to go into yet another playoffs with more insignificant George Hill / Dewayne Dedmon esque tinkering around the margins.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#944 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Fri Jan 19, 2024 3:36 am

^Caruso is a possibility, but we'll have to pay up to get him.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#945 » by Iverson Armband » Fri Jan 19, 2024 3:36 am

stormi wrote:The more I look at Caruso's numbers the more I realize that they actually do a precise job of mirroring what Derrick White brings to the Celtics.

Caruso: 6'5 186lbs, 8.0 3PA Per 100 Poss at 41.5%, 2.6% Steal, 3.5% Block, 63.3 TS%, .575 3Par (attempt rate), .227 FTr

White: 6'4 190lbs, 9.8 3PA Per 100 Poss at 41.2%, 1.6% Steal, 3.2% Block, 62.9 TS%, .565 3Par (attempt rate), .245 FTr

Caruso rebounds slightly better, White passes slightly better. Both can defend up and down the lineup. Caruso is a +++ athlete for his size and locked up for an extra season.

We might be better off going all in on defensively versatile players that can shoot and are elite athletes and the Bulls have two names that fit the bill. Both Alex Caruso and Patrick Williams are low maintenance cogs that can be integrated into our core and raise our defensive resilience and give us legit options to toss on Brown, Lillard, Holiday (Caruso) and Tatum, Giannis, Horford (Williams).

Feels unrealistic though sadly, we don't have the tradable assets to make a splash as it currently stands. And who's out there anyways? Siakam is off the table. Markkanen is off the table. The Clippers wings are running it back. We have five tradeable firsts come summer, is our guy 5'11 Donovan Mitchell? Would be disheartening to see Morey decide to go into yet another playoffs with more insignificant George Hill / Dewayne Dedmon esque tinkering around the margins.

I think we have the requisite assets to acquire Caruso. The problem is their brain dead organization won’t trade him because they refuse to hit the reset button on a nothing team for whatever reason.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#946 » by Arsenal » Fri Jan 19, 2024 4:01 am

stormi wrote:The more I look at Caruso's numbers the more I realize that they actually do a precise job of mirroring what Derrick White brings to the Celtics.

Caruso: 6'5 186lbs, 8.0 3PA Per 100 Poss at 41.5%, 2.6% Steal, 3.5% Block, 63.3 TS%, .575 3Par (attempt rate), .227 FTr

White: 6'4 190lbs, 9.8 3PA Per 100 Poss at 41.2%, 1.6% Steal, 3.2% Block, 62.9 TS%, .565 3Par (attempt rate), .245 FTr

Caruso rebounds slightly better, White passes slightly better. Both can defend up and down the lineup. Caruso is a +++ athlete for his size and locked up for an extra season.

We might be better off going all in on defensively versatile players that can shoot and are elite athletes and the Bulls have two names that fit the bill. Both Alex Caruso and Patrick Williams are low maintenance cogs that can be integrated into our core and raise our defensive resilience and give us legit options to toss on Brown, Lillard, Holiday (Caruso) and Tatum, Giannis, Horford (Williams).

Feels unrealistic though sadly, we don't have the tradable assets to make a splash as it currently stands. And who's out there anyways? Siakam is off the table. Markkanen is off the table. The Clippers wings are running it back. We have five tradeable firsts come summer, is our guy 5'11 Donovan Mitchell? Would be disheartening to see Morey decide to go into yet another playoffs with more insignificant George Hill / Dewayne Dedmon esque tinkering around the margins.


Correct except White is a much better overall scorer also, aside from the 3PT shooting. He can run a functional offense as a distributor and scorer, whereas Caruso is strictly a complementary piece.

That said Caruso probably the best fit if available depending on cost.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#947 » by M2J » Fri Jan 19, 2024 4:42 am

Covi_Marsh wrote:
M2J wrote:
LeonJordanJr24 wrote:

This team undersized. Weak defensively and will get killed on the boards.



Meant to quote this post, not And1...........................


I disagree


Bogdanovic is a turnstile on defense lol. Him and Harris guarding Tatum and Brown would be like Boston doing shooting drills. Gotta find a way to keep Batum. Can’t shorten our wing depth for a 1 way player. Would love Bogdanovic as a 6th man.


With that roster, why would you start him? They don't even start him in Atlanta?
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#948 » by the_process » Fri Jan 19, 2024 10:53 am

Harris, Camara, and 26 OKC 1st to OKC
Grant, Micic, and 25 PHI 1st to PHI
Giddey, Bertans, Springer, and 24 PHI 1st to POR

Maxey/Beverley/Micic
Melton/Oubre/Korkmaz
Grant/Martin/House
Batum/Covington/Morris
Embiid/Reed/Bamba
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#949 » by PhillyNj » Fri Jan 19, 2024 3:21 pm

Dude you’re way overvaluing Grant.
HARRIS >>>>> grant
If your gonna spend that much money on grant just spend it on Harris who is the better player.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#950 » by the_process » Fri Jan 19, 2024 4:15 pm

PhillyNj wrote:Dude you’re way overvaluing Grant.
HARRIS >>>>> grant
If your gonna spend that much money on grant just spend it on Harris who is the better player.


Harris is not >>>>> anyone. Grant is much more athletic and would be far more useful against Boston or Milwaukee in the playoffs than Tobias could ever hope to be.

Anyway, they get their pick back next year and avoid the tax this year, which restarts their repeater clock. Micic could be a good backup PG going forward as well.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#951 » by PhillyNj » Fri Jan 19, 2024 4:42 pm

the_process wrote:
PhillyNj wrote:Dude you’re way overvaluing Grant.
HARRIS >>>>> grant
If your gonna spend that much money on grant just spend it on Harris who is the better player.


Harris is not >>>>> anyone. Grant is much more athletic and would be far more useful against Boston or Milwaukee in the playoffs than Tobias could ever hope to be.

Anyway, they get their pick back next year and avoid the tax this year, which restarts their repeater clock. Micic could be a good backup PG going forward as well.

Just no. Sixers are better with Harris than with Grant. I don’t understand why you dislike Harris.
Regardless Embiid has said he wants Harris to stay. So guess what. He’s gonna stay.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#952 » by the_process » Fri Jan 19, 2024 4:52 pm

PhillyNj wrote:
the_process wrote:
PhillyNj wrote:Dude you’re way overvaluing Grant.
HARRIS >>>>> grant
If your gonna spend that much money on grant just spend it on Harris who is the better player.


Harris is not >>>>> anyone. Grant is much more athletic and would be far more useful against Boston or Milwaukee in the playoffs than Tobias could ever hope to be.

Anyway, they get their pick back next year and avoid the tax this year, which restarts their repeater clock. Micic could be a good backup PG going forward as well.

Just no. Sixers are better with Harris than with Grant. I don’t understand why you dislike Harris.
Regardless Embiid has said he wants Harris to stay. So guess what. He’s gonna stay.


Where and when was this?
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#953 » by PhillyFan11 » Sat Jan 20, 2024 1:51 am

Sixers out: Tobi, Springer, House, ‘26 1st, ‘28 1st, ‘24 2nd and ‘29 2nd
Sixers in: Murray and Wiggins

Hawks out: Murray, Capela and Bey
Hawks in: Tobi, Kuminga, Springer, ‘26 and ‘28 1st via Philly

Warriors out: Wiggins and Kuminga
Warriors in: Capela, Bey, House, ‘24 and ‘29 2nd via Philly

Murray/Pat Bev
Maxey/Melton
Wiggins/Oubre
Batum/RoCo/Morris
Embiid/Reed/Bamba
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#954 » by LloydFree » Sat Jan 20, 2024 1:59 am

brannigan73 wrote:Here is an attempt at a trade that I believe would be legal. People will cry because players that are unreasonably popular players (Hello Batum, Covingtonm and Reed) are invlovled lol. But I think the team would be clearly superior.

Atlanta would get: Batum, Covingon, Morris, Reed and our first this tyear and the firsts from the Clippers deal.
Sixers would get: Murray, Bogdanovich, and Capela.

Sixers playoff Rotation:

Embiid
Harris
Bogdanovich
Murray
Maxey
Melton
Beverley
Oubre
Capela

Looks like the second best team in the league to me with a much better chance against the Celtics.

That's not close to being realistic compensation for Atlanta.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#955 » by LloydFree » Sat Jan 20, 2024 2:03 am

PhillyNj wrote:
the_process wrote:
PhillyNj wrote:Dude you’re way overvaluing Grant.
HARRIS >>>>> grant
If your gonna spend that much money on grant just spend it on Harris who is the better player.


Harris is not >>>>> anyone. Grant is much more athletic and would be far more useful against Boston or Milwaukee in the playoffs than Tobias could ever hope to be.

Anyway, they get their pick back next year and avoid the tax this year, which restarts their repeater clock. Micic could be a good backup PG going forward as well.

Just no. Sixers are better with Harris than with Grant. I don’t understand why you dislike Harris.
Regardless Embiid has said he wants Harris to stay. So guess what. He’s gonna stay.

No, Grant is better than Harris, especially for the role we currently use Harris. That said, I wouldn't take Grant at his current salary. That's a future albatross.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#956 » by Covi_Marsh » Sat Jan 20, 2024 3:44 am

M2J wrote:
Covi_Marsh wrote:
M2J wrote:

Meant to quote this post, not And1...........................


I disagree


Bogdanovic is a turnstile on defense lol. Him and Harris guarding Tatum and Brown would be like Boston doing shooting drills. Gotta find a way to keep Batum. Can’t shorten our wing depth for a 1 way player. Would love Bogdanovic as a 6th man.


With that roster, why would you start him? They don't even start him in Atlanta?


You stated that you disagreed with a poster that this team would be undersized and overmatched on rebounds.

Sixers playoff Rotation:

Embiid
Harris
Bogdanovich
Murray
Maxey
Melton
Beverley
Oubre
Capela

Bogs is starting in that lineup. Who would you put in to move him to his ideal 6th man?
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#957 » by M2J » Sat Jan 20, 2024 4:02 am

Covi_Marsh wrote:
M2J wrote:
Covi_Marsh wrote:
Bogdanovic is a turnstile on defense lol. Him and Harris guarding Tatum and Brown would be like Boston doing shooting drills. Gotta find a way to keep Batum. Can’t shorten our wing depth for a 1 way player. Would love Bogdanovic as a 6th man.


With that roster, why would you start him? They don't even start him in Atlanta?


You stated that you disagreed with a poster that this team would be undersized and overmatched on rebounds.

Sixers playoff Rotation:

Embiid
Harris
Bogdanovich
Murray
Maxey
Melton
Beverley
Oubre
Capela

Bogs is starting in that lineup. Who would you put in to move him to his ideal 6th man?



Oubre easily. Melton certainly.

I'm sure Atlanta would do the same
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#958 » by Covi_Marsh » Sat Jan 20, 2024 4:05 am

M2J wrote:
Covi_Marsh wrote:
M2J wrote:
With that roster, why would you start him? They don't even start him in Atlanta?


You stated that you disagreed with a poster that this team would be undersized and overmatched on rebounds.

Sixers playoff Rotation:

Embiid
Harris
Bogdanovich
Murray
Maxey
Melton
Beverley
Oubre
Capela

Bogs is starting in that lineup. Who would you put in to move him to his ideal 6th man?



Oubre easily. Melton certainly.


Okay. So SF Oubre and PF Harris won’t get killed on the boards? Your only going to play Bogs bench mins making 18 mil?
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#959 » by M2J » Sat Jan 20, 2024 4:22 am

Covi_Marsh wrote:
M2J wrote:
Covi_Marsh wrote:
You stated that you disagreed with a poster that this team would be undersized and overmatched on rebounds.

Sixers playoff Rotation:

Embiid
Harris
Bogdanovich
Murray
Maxey
Melton
Beverley
Oubre
Capela

Bogs is starting in that lineup. Who would you put in to move him to his ideal 6th man?



Oubre easily. Melton certainly.


Okay. So SF Oubre and PF Harris won’t get killed on the boards? Your only going to play Bogs bench mins making 18 mil?


18 mil for a quality 6th man is no biggie. Murray and Melton are good rebounding guards. Joel can step up his play on the glass. Plus few contenders could truly punish them. Plus, you're getting a real center as a backup in Capela (starter quality), who isn't a total idiot and could actually play with Joel vs some of those bigger teams like Denver or the Bucks. Hell Capela is overkill for their backup center needs, you almost have to play them together.

It's not even a concern, they had PJ and Tobias last year and finished with the 3rd best record in the league. This would vastly improve this team and even improve those defensive and rebounding concerns for this team.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#960 » by youngcrev » Sat Jan 20, 2024 12:55 pm

Covi_Marsh wrote:
M2J wrote:
Covi_Marsh wrote:
Bogdanovic is a turnstile on defense lol. Him and Harris guarding Tatum and Brown would be like Boston doing shooting drills. Gotta find a way to keep Batum. Can’t shorten our wing depth for a 1 way player. Would love Bogdanovic as a 6th man.


With that roster, why would you start him? They don't even start him in Atlanta?


You stated that you disagreed with a poster that this team would be undersized and overmatched on rebounds.

Sixers playoff Rotation:

Embiid
Harris
Bogdanovich
Murray
Maxey
Melton
Beverley
Oubre
Capela

Bogs is starting in that lineup. Who would you put in to move him to his ideal 6th man?


They would be undersized. You'd perpetually be throwing out 3 guard lineups and would be playing Harris and Oubre as your 4s. You'd be much better off including Melton in the original deal and keeping Batum.

The trade you proposed doesn't work salary-wise regardless. No idea why you included Capella as a 20 million dollar guy that can't be on the floor with your best player.

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