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Re: Toronto Raptors SALARIES and CONTRACTS - Updated 

Post#61 » by YogurtProducer » Sat Jan 20, 2024 3:44 pm

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SharoneWright wrote:The Yak thing is a real conundrum. As if the trade itself wasn’t bad enough,,, what team wants to acquire 3 more years of Yak at 20M per as their lead(?) centre? A team that wants to win? Or a team that wants to lose?


Yak is a starting calibre C who is on a decent contract and he is only 28, he is definitely movable. Teams like Boston and OKC would want him.

Disagree 100%.

With the financial restrictions regarding the second apron, no competitive team is going to want to spend 20m on a center that can't shoot and who isn't elite. Honestly, I can't think of any team that would even want to trade for Yak.

- Chet is already playing C in OKC and they have a done of guys they need to pay soon
- Wemby is now playing C
etc.

Just because Chet/Wemby are playing C does not mean much. OKC and SAS literally don't have other options at the 5 right now, and for OKC specifically Poeltl would give them a really good other option who brings a bit more physicality on the boards.

Especially when they could trade Bertans (aka nothing) and then some picks (which they have a lot of) or other random bench prospects they have, they really could bring in a 24mpg center on a solid contract pretty much for nothing.

SGA
Williams
Dort
Chet
Poeltl

Is a better fitting lineup than that same lineup with Giddey in it. This move lets Giddey run the bench (where he can really thrive).

In the playoffs OKC is gonna have to play Jokic, Gobert/KAT, Sabonis, AD, etc. They need a guy like Jakob to give them a chance because 195lb Chet will get abused like Boucher does.

Edit: and even if Bertans is overpaid, it would be kind of nice to have a 6'10" guy who can fire away 3's like crazy as a stopgap. And no Poeltl = we lose a lot more without a true center and we might keep our pick.
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Re: Toronto Raptors SALARIES and CONTRACTS - Updated 

Post#62 » by TorontoRapsFan » Sat Jan 20, 2024 3:50 pm

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bartron_44 wrote:The biggest question they need to answer now is.. do they want to pay GTJ like 25M per season for the next 4 years. As you know that is what he is going to want.

As a 25 year old who shoots 40% from 3pt land, he actually makes a lot of sense as a guy to go with Scottie. However, if they dont want to pay him 20+ million for the next 4 years, they could actually trade him, Thad and Otto to a team looking to create 35 million in cap space next year. Toss in those picks and they might be able to get another solid player that is locked up


Trent is going to be lucky to get MLE money and I hope it isn’t from Toronto

Time to move on. I like Trent but he’s too one dimensional and lacks bball iq


He can get more than MLE from some team that looks at his 3pt% but i don't see it being more than 20mil. He'll probably get an 18 mil ish contract from Pistons or something and be gone. I'd like to offer his money to Lonnie Walker or Patrick Williams and take a chance on them.
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Post#63 » by ArthurVandelay » Sat Jan 20, 2024 4:10 pm

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bartron_44 wrote:The biggest question they need to answer now is.. do they want to pay GTJ like 25M per season for the next 4 years. As you know that is what he is going to want.

As a 25 year old who shoots 40% from 3pt land, he actually makes a lot of sense as a guy to go with Scottie. However, if they dont want to pay him 20+ million for the next 4 years, they could actually trade him, Thad and Otto to a team looking to create 35 million in cap space next year. Toss in those picks and they might be able to get another solid player that is locked up


Trent is going to be lucky to get MLE money and I hope it isn’t from Toronto

Time to move on. I like Trent but he’s too one dimensional and lacks bball iq


He can get more than MLE from some team that looks at his 3pt% but i don't see it being more than 20mil. He'll probably get an 18 mil ish contract from Pistons or something and be gone. I'd like to offer his money to Lonnie Walker or Patrick Williams and take a chance on them.


Maybe but I just can’t see it

Maybe he lucks into a Dillion Brooks/Houston situation where a team has a lot of money to spend and nowhere to put it? Detroit maybe? But I can’t see a team using their cap space beyond that.

No team is going into the summer with significant cap space saying, “We gotta get Gary.”
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Post#64 » by ItsDanger » Sat Jan 20, 2024 4:26 pm

Some posters are yearning for the team to get back Siakam/OG in free agency. It's not happening. Get over it already, they're gone.
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Post#65 » by Merit » Sat Jan 20, 2024 8:35 pm

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Merit wrote:40 mil in cap space. 4 roster players and 3 firsts. Well done Masai.


Not much of a FA landscape. Other than Claxton, there is no one I think would come here without asking for a big contract.

I think Masai got 3 picks because he's looking to move expirings and picks for another starter level player. We still have a huge gap in the starting lineup and Brown isn't going to be a core piece


Grayson Allen would be just fine for me assuming Trent and Brown are traded (Suns have no chance of keeping Allen right now). Probably could fit Claxton and Allen into the 60 million cap space. Add two picks for GTJ and BB, trade Poeltl for a first and whoever, they end up with 6 additional picks, a new starting line-up and 30 million under the tax.


If we end up with Claxton over Poeltl consider me interested. If we get Allen and Claxton to add to our core consider me content. Allen is shooting 53% from 3 this month iirc. Yes please.

I’m good with getting Zach Edey to be our big boy situationally. Pretty sure he declares this year.
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Post#66 » by Johnny Bball » Sat Jan 20, 2024 9:18 pm

Merit wrote:
Johnny Bball wrote:
UnbelievablyRAW wrote:
Not much of a FA landscape. Other than Claxton, there is no one I think would come here without asking for a big contract.

I think Masai got 3 picks because he's looking to move expirings and picks for another starter level player. We still have a huge gap in the starting lineup and Brown isn't going to be a core piece


Grayson Allen would be just fine for me assuming Trent and Brown are traded (Suns have no chance of keeping Allen right now). Probably could fit Claxton and Allen into the 60 million cap space. Add two picks for GTJ and BB, trade Poeltl for a first and whoever, they end up with 6 additional picks, a new starting line-up and 30 million under the tax.


If we end up with Claxton over Poeltl consider me interested. If we get Allen and Claxton to add to our core consider me content. Allen is shooting 53% from 3 this month iirc. Yes please.

I’m good with getting Zach Edey to be our big boy situationally. Pretty sure he declares this year.


I dont know that Eddy can play in the NBA but yeah, he is no starting centre. If they can make nearly 60 mil in cap sapce is that not enough for both of those players and maybe 10-15 million left? Being generous to them even?

Its no finished product but its a starting point.
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Post#67 » by bluerap23 » Sat Jan 20, 2024 11:09 pm

Johnny Bball wrote:
Merit wrote:
Johnny Bball wrote:
Grayson Allen would be just fine for me assuming Trent and Brown are traded (Suns have no chance of keeping Allen right now). Probably could fit Claxton and Allen into the 60 million cap space. Add two picks for GTJ and BB, trade Poeltl for a first and whoever, they end up with 6 additional picks, a new starting line-up and 30 million under the tax.


If we end up with Claxton over Poeltl consider me interested. If we get Allen and Claxton to add to our core consider me content. Allen is shooting 53% from 3 this month iirc. Yes please.

I’m good with getting Zach Edey to be our big boy situationally. Pretty sure he declares this year.


I dont know that Eddy can play in the NBA but yeah, he is no starting centre. If they can make nearly 60 mil in cap sapce is that not enough for both of those players and maybe 10-15 million left? Being generous to them even?

Its no finished product but its a starting point.


I could see them making a move for Huerter.
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Post#68 » by Merit » Sun Jan 21, 2024 2:54 am

Johnny Bball wrote:
Merit wrote:
Johnny Bball wrote:
Grayson Allen would be just fine for me assuming Trent and Brown are traded (Suns have no chance of keeping Allen right now). Probably could fit Claxton and Allen into the 60 million cap space. Add two picks for GTJ and BB, trade Poeltl for a first and whoever, they end up with 6 additional picks, a new starting line-up and 30 million under the tax.


If we end up with Claxton over Poeltl consider me interested. If we get Allen and Claxton to add to our core consider me content. Allen is shooting 53% from 3 this month iirc. Yes please.

I’m good with getting Zach Edey to be our big boy situationally. Pretty sure he declares this year.


I dont know that Eddy can play in the NBA but yeah, he is no starting centre. If they can make nearly 60 mil in cap sapce is that not enough for both of those players and maybe 10-15 million left? Being generous to them even?

Its no finished product but its a starting point.


We have 3 firsts. After tonight, we should be tanking. I like Edey as a Canadian and situationally. No idea if he can move well enough laterally but hey, as a depth flier I’m in. I really don’t know enough about him to have a strong opinion.
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Post#69 » by Appostis » Mon Jan 22, 2024 4:07 am

People are actually trying to argue the Raptors are In a bad spot cap space wise...
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Post#70 » by phanman » Mon Jan 22, 2024 6:21 pm

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phanman wrote:
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Yak is a starting calibre C who is on a decent contract and he is only 28, he is definitely movable. Teams like Boston and OKC would want him.

Disagree 100%.

With the financial restrictions regarding the second apron, no competitive team is going to want to spend 20m on a center that can't shoot and who isn't elite. Honestly, I can't think of any team that would even want to trade for Yak.

- Chet is already playing C in OKC and they have a done of guys they need to pay soon
- Wemby is now playing C
etc.

Just because Chet/Wemby are playing C does not mean much. OKC and SAS literally don't have other options at the 5 right now, and for OKC specifically Poeltl would give them a really good other option who brings a bit more physicality on the boards.

Especially when they could trade Bertans (aka nothing) and then some picks (which they have a lot of) or other random bench prospects they have, they really could bring in a 24mpg center on a solid contract pretty much for nothing.

SGA
Williams
Dort
Chet
Poeltl

Is a better fitting lineup than that same lineup with Giddey in it. This move lets Giddey run the bench (where he can really thrive).

In the playoffs OKC is gonna have to play Jokic, Gobert/KAT, Sabonis, AD, etc. They need a guy like Jakob to give them a chance because 195lb Chet will get abused like Boucher does.

Edit: and even if Bertans is overpaid, it would be kind of nice to have a 6'10" guy who can fire away 3's like crazy as a stopgap. And no Poeltl = we lose a lot more without a true center and we might keep our pick.

I never said that Poeltl wasn't a good fit or that they couldn't use him for their playoff run. I just stated that the financial implications of bringing on Poeltl's 19.5m salary for the next 3 years could be the roadblock on making the move for OKC. They have both JDub and Chet's max contracts coming up and likewise with whatever they decide to do with Giddey. With those big contracts on the horizon, I don't think they're going to make a move for a big contract when Chet has been a DPOY caliber defender in his rookie season.

Chet's a dog and I think he's held up pretty well against those bigger guys you listed and he is only going to get better with additional reps. I'd like to think that OKC wants to throw him in the fire and see what he can do against those elite bigs once the playoffs roll around. Personally I think they'll try to go a cheaper route for a back-up big like Wendell Carter JR or even try to pry Naz from Minnesota.
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Post#71 » by causal_fan » Mon Jan 22, 2024 6:42 pm

I know that Dallas is high on Dereck Lively but he may need 2-3 more years to hit his stride and Kyrie/Luka can win now.
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Post#72 » by links135 » Mon Jan 22, 2024 6:55 pm

KL78192020 wrote:Time to move on from Yak and Dennis as well. Go full rebuild. Give Porter 30mpg and see what he does, let Gradey play and keep our pick. Trade the expiring's for bad contracts/picks.


**** lets just have some high schoolers play the rest of the season, really tank.

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