2023-2024 Regular Season Game 43: Miami Heat (24-18) at Orlando Magic (22-20) - 6pm

Post #261 » by **eyriq** » Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:51 am

Good to see Fultz and WCJ getting that trade value up

otownflava21 · Post #262 » by **otownflava21** » Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:52 am

One thing about Fultz…

He may be a a 2/5 stars on offense, but he’s 4/5 stars on defense. Fultz and Suggs make an opposing teams’ guards lives a lot harder.

Offensively he’s 0 out of 5 for 3 point shooting, 2/5 midrange and 4/5 finishing around the hoop, but between last season and this season he’s a top PG in SPG.

Post #263 » by **SOUL** » Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:53 am

eyriq wrote:Good to see Fultz and WCJ getting that trade value up

Who is replacing WCJ? Goga is a UFA.

RichCollab · Post #264 » by **RichCollab** » Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:53 am

SOUL wrote:Goga may play tomorrow if Isaac isn't because of a B2B.

WCJ starter, Goga backup C, Moe PF.

I didn’t really miss Goga tonight. He is a good fill in when WCJ is out hurt.

RichCollab · Post #265 » by **RichCollab** » Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:54 am

eyriq wrote:Good to see Fultz and WCJ getting that trade value up

Trading WCJ is a mistake for me.

Post #266 » by **Knightro** » Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:54 am

KillMonger wrote:This wcj is cool, I just want to see from him consistent effort on the glass.... 9 rebounds tonight should be the norm....in the past too many sub 8 rebound games.... From a center that's unacceptable

Yeah I mean Carter's always going to be a pretty low OREB guy because he doesn't just camp in the dunker spot like Goga does.

Goga's OREB% is 13.3%. WCJ's is just 8.4% this year.

But defensive rebounding, WCJ has traditionally been better for his career than Goga was this year. Just needs to uptick it back his career norms.

SloNick Russia · Post #267 » by **SloNick Russia** » Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:55 am

Goga is fine, but WCJ is one another level, better hands, touch around the basket, his ability to guard bigs close without fouling is great too

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Post #268 » by **eyriq** » Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:56 am

SOUL wrote:
eyriq wrote:Good to see Fultz and WCJ getting that trade value up

Who is replacing WCJ? Goga is a UFA.

Claxton

Post #269 » by **Knightro** » Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:56 am

eyriq wrote:Good to see Fultz and WCJ getting that trade value up

I would be very surprised if Carter was traded.

The only way it makes sense would be for a SIGNIFICANT upgrade in the backcourt.

Post #270 » by **eyriq** » Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:57 am

RichCollab wrote:
SOUL wrote:Goga may play tomorrow if Isaac isn't because of a B2B.

WCJ starter, Goga backup C, Moe PF.

I didn’t really miss Goga tonight. He is a good fill in when WCJ is out hurt.

WCJ is consistently missing games. Move on from our injury prone players.

basketballRob · Post #271 » by **basketballRob** » Mon Jan 22, 2024 2:03 am

Knightro wrote:This is the best rotation the Magic can run right now.

I love what Goga provided, but Carter is clearly better and they definitely need Moritz's scoring if Isaac is healthy and able to cover him defensively.

Now just figure out a way to upgrade the Fultz slot using expirings and picks (and MAYBE one of Jett/Houstan if it's major upgrade) and we're really cooking with gas.

When Harris comes back, he'll likely replace Houstan/Black in the rotation.

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JF5 · Post #272 » by **JF5** » Mon Jan 22, 2024 2:06 am

eyriq wrote:
RichCollab wrote:
SOUL wrote:Goga may play tomorrow if Isaac isn't because of a B2B.

WCJ starter, Goga backup C, Moe PF.

I didn’t really miss Goga tonight. He is a good fill in when WCJ is out hurt.
WCJ is consistently missing games. Move on from our injury prone players.

If he's playing 50-65 games a year it's not a big deal unless you're able find someone who is better than him. Trading him just for the sake of trading him isn't optimal considering he spaces the floor and plays good defense.

ORLMagicGirl15 · Post #273 » by **ORLMagicGirl15** » Mon Jan 22, 2024 2:06 am

This team thoroughly confused me.

Post #274 » by **SOUL** » Mon Jan 22, 2024 2:07 am

ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:This team thoroughly confused me.

Plays better when Franz (their best player advanced metrics wise) is on the floor and the rest of the team is relatively healthy.

Ta-dah!

Post #275 » by **Knightro** » Mon Jan 22, 2024 2:09 am

ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:This team thoroughly confused me.

They didn't have their 2nd best player (some consider him their best player) for the last 8 games and they went 3-5.

Not much more to it than that. If they had Franz they would have most likely won at least two of the games they lost while he was out.

KillMonger · Post #276 » by **KillMonger** » Mon Jan 22, 2024 2:09 am

Knightro wrote:
eyriq wrote:Good to see Fultz and WCJ getting that trade value up

I would be very surprised if Carter was traded.

The only way it makes sense would be for a SIGNIFICANT upgrade in the backcourt.

Would love claxton

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ORLMagicGirl15 · Post #277 » by **ORLMagicGirl15** » Mon Jan 22, 2024 2:11 am

Knightro wrote:
ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:This team thoroughly confused me.

They didn't have their 2nd best player (some consider him their best player) for the last 8 games and they went 3-5.

Not much more to it than that. If they had Franz they would have most likely won at least two of the games they lost while he was out.

No! I mean we beat the Heat with Jimmy and Kyle playing.

Post #278 » by **Knightro** » Mon Jan 22, 2024 2:15 am

ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:No! I mean we beat the Heat with Jimmy and Kyle playing.

The Magic are certainly comparable to the Heat when both teams are healthy.

Post #279 » by **SOUL** » Mon Jan 22, 2024 2:17 am

Knightro wrote:
ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:No! I mean we beat the Heat with Jimmy and Kyle playing.

The Magic are certainly comparable to the Heat when both teams are healthy.

JJJ = real Magic killer

Max Power · Post #280 » by **Max Power** » Mon Jan 22, 2024 2:17 am

It was good to see the guys looking mostly like themselves for the first time since like April. Markelle resembled the guy we saw last year tonight, obviously his jumper isn’t there. Hopefully it can come back for the rest of the year. We’ll see. But there’s no reason he can’t contribute on D and set up the other 4 guys on the floor with him until he can at least attack the middle again. I do think there’s a high possibility he’ll be traded. But I like his game when he’s right. I just don’t want his best to be in another uni and burn us.