Game 44: Pistons vs Hornets 7PM EST
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There are a lot of players who could put up big counting stats with the minutes and usage. I don't doubt Bagley can fit that mold, but can he contribute to winning? Ivey is probably another guy like Bagley who can put up points with the minutes and usage but does enough boneheaded things to lose you games.
Jeff Van Gundy on his brother's Pistons: 'He took over the Titanic and it's sinking even quicker'
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Muscala has been averaging
5.3 PPG
3.3 RPG
1.3 APG
We got a win since the trade. Washington got 0.
I'd take Muscala 11 out of 10 times over Bagley.
5.3 PPG
3.3 RPG
1.3 APG
We got a win since the trade. Washington got 0.
I'd take Muscala 11 out of 10 times over Bagley.
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Comment of the Night:
There is a comment "I dont understand why Ivey didn't play in crunch time" and then later the guy also said that he only watched the last 6 minutes of the game. A reminder that alot of people here and r/nba don't actually watch the games and just type some **** for engagements lol.
There is a comment "I dont understand why Ivey didn't play in crunch time" and then later the guy also said that he only watched the last 6 minutes of the game. A reminder that alot of people here and r/nba don't actually watch the games and just type some **** for engagements lol.
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bstein14 wrote:Our 5 man units are crazy. Our most used unit has played 8 games together for a total of 100 minutes (Cade/Killian/Stewart/Duren/Ausar) and the next most minutes for any 5 guys together is just 68 minutes. The lineups have been all over the place this year no getting used to playing with specific groups at all.
Bojan/Stewart/Cade/Ivey/Ausar have played just 35 minutes together this season in four games.
Bojan/Stewart/Cade/Ivey/Duren have played together in just 2 games this season for a total of 19 minutes and they have a great offensive rating, a great defensive rating and a 65.2 TS% with that unit for those 19 minutes haha.
Thanks for all that info. Hoeofully our guys can stay healthy all the rest of this year so it’s not a total lost year and maybe we can have soemthing to build on next year. Tho the cade injury seems a little fishy to me atm, hopefully it’s just me.
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whitehops wrote:flow wrote:Bagley is tearing it up with the Wizards. No surprise to me at all.
i bet he's done that before if you take out the assists. a guy who has never averaged more than 1 assist a game is now averaging a scorching 1.5 assists with the wizards.
edit: quick look and he had a 4-game stretch last season where he had 70 points, 52 rebounds and 4 assists. then he had another stretch like two weeks later where he had 75 points, 31 boards and 7 assists.
so, not exactly a career stretch more than what happens if he plays big minutes. fun fact: his teams lost every game in these 4-game stretches.
And they lost 32 games before he got there. No one's saying he's Bill Russell. But that this board made him Enemy #1 over guys who don't even belong on an nba court is just mind-boggling. Bagley was the least of this team's problems.
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I would guess most preferred Bagley over Wiseman, since he could at least score.
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Cowology wrote:Decent chance Bagley gets hurt between now and then. Dangle Wiseman?bstein14 wrote:We gotta make another trade with the Wizards before the start of the Game Saturday to keep the streak going.
Wiseman and Harris for Poole?
Some random troll wrote:Not to sound negative, but this team is owned by an arrogant cheapskate, managed by a moron and coached by an idiot. Recipe for disaster.
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That might be one of the few Wiseman deals I'd actually say no to.TGW wrote:Cowology wrote:Decent chance Bagley gets hurt between now and then. Dangle Wiseman?bstein14 wrote:We gotta make another trade with the Wizards before the start of the Game Saturday to keep the streak going.
Wiseman and Harris for Poole?

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Interesting, Antoine Walker. I couldn't put my finger on it, but yes, Bagley is the new Antoine Walker.flow wrote:whitehops wrote:flow wrote:Bagley is tearing it up with the Wizards. No surprise to me at all.
i bet he's done that before if you take out the assists. a guy who has never averaged more than 1 assist a game is now averaging a scorching 1.5 assists with the wizards.
edit: quick look and he had a 4-game stretch last season where he had 70 points, 52 rebounds and 4 assists. then he had another stretch like two weeks later where he had 75 points, 31 boards and 7 assists.
so, not exactly a career stretch more than what happens if he plays big minutes. fun fact: his teams lost every game in these 4-game stretches.
And they lost 32 games before he got there. No one's saying he's Bill Russell. But that this board made him Enemy #1 over guys who don't even belong on an nba court is just mind-boggling. Bagley was the least of this team's problems.
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"Because there are no 4's."
Dude was ahead of his time.
Dude was ahead of his time.

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He actually had me fooled for a few years that he was good too.Cowology wrote:"Because there are no 4's."
Dude was ahead of his time.
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He was good for fantasy. Filled the stat line.
But he didn’t play defense and chucked shots from everywhere. He didn’t play winning basketball.
He was basically the PF version of LaVine.
But he didn’t play defense and chucked shots from everywhere. He didn’t play winning basketball.
He was basically the PF version of LaVine.
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Marvin Bagley back to being a low MPG bench player. 16 minutes, -15, 3 rebounds, 4 of 5 from the floor tonight. Always capable of putting the ball in the basket but incapable of doing the things needed to help a team play winning basketball.
Tyus Jones 14 assists and 0 TOs he would be a decent add for us as an outside the box addition this summer. He's still just a 27 year old PG who would fit well next to Cade IMO he's been elite in assist to TO ratio in his career. You can either shift Cade to starting SF or you can let Ivey be the combo guard off the bench.
I'm guessing Tyus Jones could be had by any team that would be willing to pay slightly above MLE money I am guessing he gets a full MLE offer from a few teams.
Tyus Jones 14 assists and 0 TOs he would be a decent add for us as an outside the box addition this summer. He's still just a 27 year old PG who would fit well next to Cade IMO he's been elite in assist to TO ratio in his career. You can either shift Cade to starting SF or you can let Ivey be the combo guard off the bench.
I'm guessing Tyus Jones could be had by any team that would be willing to pay slightly above MLE money I am guessing he gets a full MLE offer from a few teams.
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bstein14 wrote:Marvin Bagley back to being a low MPG bench player. 16 minutes, -15, 3 rebounds, 4 of 5 from the floor tonight. Always capable of putting the ball in the basket but incapable of doing the things needed to help a team play winning basketball.
Tyus Jones 14 assists and 0 TOs he would be a decent add for us as an outside the box addition this summer. He's still just a 27 year old PG who would fit well next to Cade IMO he's been elite in assist to TO ratio in his career. You can either shift Cade to starting SF or you can let Ivey be the combo guard off the bench.
I'm guessing Tyus Jones could be had by any team that would be willing to pay slightly above MLE money I am guessing he gets a full MLE offer from a few teams.
New coach, new minutes.
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Tyus sounds like he's going to be a hot commodity in the trade market.
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bstein14 wrote:Marvin Bagley back to being a low MPG bench player. 16 minutes, -15, 3 rebounds, 4 of 5 from the floor tonight. Always capable of putting the ball in the basket but incapable of doing the things needed to help a team play winning basketball.
Tyus Jones 14 assists and 0 TOs he would be a decent add for us as an outside the box addition this summer. He's still just a 27 year old PG who would fit well next to Cade IMO he's been elite in assist to TO ratio in his career. You can either shift Cade to starting SF or you can let Ivey be the combo guard off the bench.
I'm guessing Tyus Jones could be had by any team that would be willing to pay slightly above MLE money I am guessing he gets a full MLE offer from a few teams.
Why would we want Tyus Jones when we alread have Monte Morris?