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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#261 » by youngcrev » Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:29 pm

SixthStreet wrote:We should trade Tobias to the Kings for draft capital from them or another team and load up for trades in the offseason and at the draft.

I'm simply not wasting draft assets for the players available at the deadline and at rumored prices. Let's be smart.


I get not wanting to waste the draft assets we have, but becoming sellers at the deadline just feels like a straight up slap in the face to Embiid, regardless of what you may think their odds of advancing far are.
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Post#262 » by ProcessDoctor » Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:37 pm

GSW out: Wiggins, Kuminga, Payton, 2026 1st
GSW in: Harris, Dunn

PHI out: Harris, Covington, Reed, Springer, three 1sts, three 1st swaps
PHI in: Lauri, Olynyk, Wiggins, Payton

UTAH out: Lauri, Olynyk, Dunn
UTAH in: Kuminga, Reed, Springer, Covington, four 1sts, three 1st swaps


Maxey/Beverley/Payton
Melton/Oubre/Korkmaz
Wiggins/Batum/House
Lauri/Morris/Martin
Embiid/Olynyk/Bamba
2025-2026 Philadelphia 76ers:

Maxey/McCain/Lowry
Edgecombe/Grimes/Gordon
George/Oubre/Edwards
Watford/Barlow/Walker
Embiid/Drummond/Bona/Broome
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Post#263 » by ProcessDoctor » Sat Jan 27, 2024 10:30 pm

CHI out: Derozan, Caruso, Drummond
CHI in: Moody, Springer, Morris, Covington, two 1sts, three 2nds

GSW out: Wiggins, Moody, 1st, 2nd
GSW in: Derozan

PHI out: Morris, Covington, Springer, 1st, two 2nds
PHI in: Wiggins, Caruso, Drummond


Maxey/Melton/Beverley
Caruso/Oubre/Korkmaz
Wiggins/Batum/House
Harris/Reed/Martin
Embiid/Drum/Bamba
2025-2026 Philadelphia 76ers:

Maxey/McCain/Lowry
Edgecombe/Grimes/Gordon
George/Oubre/Edwards
Watford/Barlow/Walker
Embiid/Drummond/Bona/Broome
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Post#264 » by Negrodamus » Sun Jan 28, 2024 1:22 am

Kobblehead wrote:Some people have shown no regard for draft picks.

There was a time when you traded multiple first first superstars only.

Now we have people willing to trade multiple firsts for Alex Caruso? For Mikal Bridges? What are we doing?


How many picks, if any, for PJ Washington?
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Post#265 » by Negrodamus » Sun Jan 28, 2024 1:36 am

2026 1st, Paul Reed, Springer, RoCo for PJ Washington and Nick Richards.

Not to make this a Kentucky thing, but I’d love to see them be the depth on this team.
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Post#266 » by 76ciology » Sun Jan 28, 2024 2:20 am

Woj on ESPN: Embiid wants to be as healthy as he can be when the playoffs come. If that means taking him out of MVP, he is ok with that. He has won MVP before, he wants a championship.

If this is true, then Morey has to work
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Post#267 » by Bum Adebayo » Sun Jan 28, 2024 2:39 am

76ciology wrote:Woj on ESPN: Embiid wants to be as healthy as he can be when the playoffs come. If that means taking him out of MVP, he is ok with that. He has won MVP before, he wants a championship.

If this is true, then Morey has to work


Sure, he doesn't want MVP, he however kept playing in blowout games just to keep his meaningless 30/10 streak alive and missed some games as a result, I'm sure he priorizes his health and a championship over his personal records...
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Post#268 » by phifans » Sun Jan 28, 2024 2:43 am

76ciology wrote:Woj on ESPN: Embiid wants to be as healthy as he can be when the playoffs come. If that means taking him out of MVP, he is ok with that. He has won MVP before, he wants a championship.

If this is true, then Morey has to work


Except nothing can guarantee his healthy. He's played 33/44 so far which didn't stop him from being hurt repeatedly.
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Post#269 » by Bum Adebayo » Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:03 am

He always gets hurt the game before Denver and in 1st round of playoffs, but it's a coincidence sure, the pattern is evident and available for those who want to see it.
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Post#270 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:04 am

Yeah he said the same exact thing last season. He even went into the playoffs fully healthy and then got hurt. Basically, his problem hasn't been staying healthy during the regular season when teams are coasting. It's been once the physicality of the playoffs start to ramp up, and guys are going to an extra gear so to speak when he gets hurt. The meniscus tear trying to embarrass Daniel Gafford a few years ago, the thumb against Toronto, and then the meaningless eye injury from Siakam. Then last year he was getting punked by Claxton and when he tried to retaliate he ended up hurt again. So yeah, he's getting hurt in the playoffs and it's always when he's doing stupid $hit that's completely unnecessary. He needs to play smarter and with a little more wisdom. Not every play in the postseason needs to be a statement one. He needs to CTFO. In every series he got hurt in, we either had total control of the series itself or the game itself was out of hand. The only one he did get hurt in that we lost was the Wizard game and we ended up beating them 4-2 that year. In the past we've had the depth/2nd star to overcome his injuries in the first round. Beyond that, not so much. If he gets hurt again in a first-round tilt with any of the ECF teams that we might be facing, we are going home on our own floor. I've said it time and time again. The first time we get a fully healthy, fully focused Embiid for the entirety of the playoffs will be the year we get to the Finals.
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Post#271 » by Bum Adebayo » Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:06 am

Embiid was 100% healthy last year, he just choked against Celtics, watch game 7 and tell me with a straight face the reason he disappeared is because he was injured.
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Post#272 » by Bum Adebayo » Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:17 am

Our best player is a dude from Cameroon that has **** stamina in Playoffs and sickle cell disease, think about that lol
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Post#273 » by eyeatoma » Sun Jan 28, 2024 4:08 am

Bum Adebayo wrote:Embiid was 100% healthy last year, he just choked against Celtics, watch game 7 and tell me with a straight face the reason he disappeared is because he was injured.
Lol he was injured. Wtf are you talking about?

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Post#274 » by M2J » Sun Jan 28, 2024 4:33 am

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:Yeah he said the same exact thing last season. He even went into the playoffs fully healthy and then got hurt. Basically, his problem hasn't been staying healthy during the regular season when teams are coasting. It's been once the physicality of the playoffs start to ramp up, and guys are going to an extra gear so to speak when he gets hurt. The meniscus tear trying to embarrass Daniel Gafford a few years ago, the thumb against Toronto, and then the meaningless eye injury from Siakam. Then last year he was getting punked by Claxton and when he tried to retaliate he ended up hurt again. So yeah, he's getting hurt in the playoffs and it's always when he's doing stupid $hit that's completely unnecessary. He needs to play smarter and with a little more wisdom. Not every play in the postseason needs to be a statement one. He needs to CTFO. In every series he got hurt in, we either had total control of the series itself or the game itself was out of hand. The only one he did get hurt in that we lost was the Wizard game and we ended up beating them 4-2 that year. In the past we've had the depth/2nd star to overcome his injuries in the first round. Beyond that, not so much. If he gets hurt again in a first-round tilt with any of the ECF teams that we might be facing, we are going home on our own floor. I've said it time and time again. The first time we get a fully healthy, fully focused Embiid for the entirety of the playoffs will be the year we get to the Finals.


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Post#275 » by NYSixersFan » Sun Jan 28, 2024 4:46 am

76ciology wrote:Woj on ESPN: Embiid wants to be as healthy as he can be when the playoffs come. If that means taking him out of MVP, he is ok with that. He has won MVP before, he wants a championship.

If this is true, then Morey has to work


This is complete BS. If all he cares is about is winning a championship then you don't come back into a blowout to continue your 30 point streak...especially when you're injured.
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Post#276 » by Mik317 » Sun Jan 28, 2024 5:01 am

he didn't play in the 4th
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Post#277 » by sixers hoops » Sun Jan 28, 2024 6:32 am

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:Yeah he said the same exact thing last season. He even went into the playoffs fully healthy and then got hurt. Basically, his problem hasn't been staying healthy during the regular season when teams are coasting. It's been once the physicality of the playoffs start to ramp up, and guys are going to an extra gear so to speak when he gets hurt. The meniscus tear trying to embarrass Daniel Gafford a few years ago, the thumb against Toronto, and then the meaningless eye injury from Siakam. Then last year he was getting punked by Claxton and when he tried to retaliate he ended up hurt again. So yeah, he's getting hurt in the playoffs and it's always when he's doing stupid $hit that's completely unnecessary. He needs to play smarter and with a little more wisdom. Not every play in the postseason needs to be a statement one. He needs to CTFO. In every series he got hurt in, we either had total control of the series itself or the game itself was out of hand. The only one he did get hurt in that we lost was the Wizard game and we ended up beating them 4-2 that year. In the past we've had the depth/2nd star to overcome his injuries in the first round. Beyond that, not so much. If he gets hurt again in a first-round tilt with any of the ECF teams that we might be facing, we are going home on our own floor. I've said it time and time again. The first time we get a fully healthy, fully focused Embiid for the entirety of the playoffs will be the year we get to the Finals.


He had the meniscus tear, but he had a season ending meniscus tear that ended his first season.

He had a broken orbital… oh wait… he had one of those in the regular season too though.

And there was the thumb ligament tear… oh yeah, he tore a ring finger ligament in the regular season.

How about the year he had knee tendinitis? Oh yeah he gets that all the time.

Maybe the playoff knee sprain? He is missing games with that right now.

Did he break his navicular bone in the playoffs? No. That was pre draft and again while rehabbing.

Embiid has missed multiple games in the regular season for foot, ankle, calf, knee, back, hip, finger, elbow, and face injuries. And that’s just off the top of my head.

He is a 7’2 person with a reckless playing style, who missed the end of his college season and his first two NBA seasons with injuries. The narrative that he only gets hurt in tough playoff basketball isn’t supported by anything in his lengthy injury history. He has a chronic knee condition that swells up every year, and will continue to swell up. It is reportedly swollen as we speak.

He sits out just about every season for knee pain. It’s just magnified when your star player is missing important playoff games and your team is a disappointment year-after-year.
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Post#278 » by eyeatoma » Sun Jan 28, 2024 6:55 am

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ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:Yeah he said the same exact thing last season. He even went into the playoffs fully healthy and then got hurt. Basically, his problem hasn't been staying healthy during the regular season when teams are coasting. It's been once the physicality of the playoffs start to ramp up, and guys are going to an extra gear so to speak when he gets hurt. The meniscus tear trying to embarrass Daniel Gafford a few years ago, the thumb against Toronto, and then the meaningless eye injury from Siakam. Then last year he was getting punked by Claxton and when he tried to retaliate he ended up hurt again. So yeah, he's getting hurt in the playoffs and it's always when he's doing stupid $hit that's completely unnecessary. He needs to play smarter and with a little more wisdom. Not every play in the postseason needs to be a statement one. He needs to CTFO. In every series he got hurt in, we either had total control of the series itself or the game itself was out of hand. The only one he did get hurt in that we lost was the Wizard game and we ended up beating them 4-2 that year. In the past we've had the depth/2nd star to overcome his injuries in the first round. Beyond that, not so much. If he gets hurt again in a first-round tilt with any of the ECF teams that we might be facing, we are going home on our own floor. I've said it time and time again. The first time we get a fully healthy, fully focused Embiid for the entirety of the playoffs will be the year we get to the Finals.


He had the meniscus tear, but he had a season ending meniscus tear that ended his first season.

He had a broken orbital… oh wait… he had one of those in the regular season too though.

And there was the thumb ligament tear… oh yeah, he tore a ring finger ligament in the regular season.

How about the year he had knee tendinitis? Oh yeah he gets that all the time.

Maybe the playoff knee sprain? He is missing games with that right now.

Did he break his navicular bone in the playoffs? No. That was pre draft and again while rehabbing.

Embiid has missed multiple games in the regular season for foot, ankle, calf, knee, back, hip, finger, elbow, and face injuries. And that’s just off the top of my head.

He is a 7’2 person with a reckless playing style, who missed the end of his college season and his first two NBA seasons with injuries. The narrative that he only gets hurt in tough playoff basketball isn’t supported by anything in his lengthy injury history. He has a chronic knee condition that swells up every year, and will continue to swell up. It is reportedly swollen as we speak.

He sits out just about every season for knee pain. It’s just magnified when your star player is missing important playoff games and your team is a disappointment year-after-year.



All true, but apart from the knee issue, everything else was a freak incident.
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Post#279 » by M2J » Sun Jan 28, 2024 7:36 am

eyeatoma wrote:
sixers hoops wrote:
ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:Yeah he said the same exact thing last season. He even went into the playoffs fully healthy and then got hurt. Basically, his problem hasn't been staying healthy during the regular season when teams are coasting. It's been once the physicality of the playoffs start to ramp up, and guys are going to an extra gear so to speak when he gets hurt. The meniscus tear trying to embarrass Daniel Gafford a few years ago, the thumb against Toronto, and then the meaningless eye injury from Siakam. Then last year he was getting punked by Claxton and when he tried to retaliate he ended up hurt again. So yeah, he's getting hurt in the playoffs and it's always when he's doing stupid $hit that's completely unnecessary. He needs to play smarter and with a little more wisdom. Not every play in the postseason needs to be a statement one. He needs to CTFO. In every series he got hurt in, we either had total control of the series itself or the game itself was out of hand. The only one he did get hurt in that we lost was the Wizard game and we ended up beating them 4-2 that year. In the past we've had the depth/2nd star to overcome his injuries in the first round. Beyond that, not so much. If he gets hurt again in a first-round tilt with any of the ECF teams that we might be facing, we are going home on our own floor. I've said it time and time again. The first time we get a fully healthy, fully focused Embiid for the entirety of the playoffs will be the year we get to the Finals.


He had the meniscus tear, but he had a season ending meniscus tear that ended his first season.

He had a broken orbital… oh wait… he had one of those in the regular season too though.

And there was the thumb ligament tear… oh yeah, he tore a ring finger ligament in the regular season.

How about the year he had knee tendinitis? Oh yeah he gets that all the time.

Maybe the playoff knee sprain? He is missing games with that right now.

Did he break his navicular bone in the playoffs? No. That was pre draft and again while rehabbing.

Embiid has missed multiple games in the regular season for foot, ankle, calf, knee, back, hip, finger, elbow, and face injuries. And that’s just off the top of my head.

He is a 7’2 person with a reckless playing style, who missed the end of his college season and his first two NBA seasons with injuries. The narrative that he only gets hurt in tough playoff basketball isn’t supported by anything in his lengthy injury history. He has a chronic knee condition that swells up every year, and will continue to swell up. It is reportedly swollen as we speak.

He sits out just about every season for knee pain. It’s just magnified when your star player is missing important playoff games and your team is a disappointment year-after-year.



All true, but apart from the knee issue, everything else was a freak incident.


It's all true... It can happen anytime.
More often than not, his injuries seem to be from reckless bull in his part... Considering he's a huge injury prone 300lb man. I love that he can chase down a smaller player and fly through the air to block it like he did Cam Johnson last playoffs... Or that he can charge down the paint and slam it like a wing like vs Washington.... Even that he is willing to play defense with his face up 20 points in the last 5 minutes of a closeout game. But he doesn't need to, the world can live without it
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Post#280 » by 76ciology » Sun Jan 28, 2024 7:46 am

After seeing it almost every year, im not freaked out from those accidents.
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