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SpezNc wrote:WuTang_OG wrote:If Ryan Dunn is staring at us with the Indiana pick, Raps will be all over him. Team need to replenish length and defensive versatility
Tankathon : 15
Ringer : 14
No ceilings : 9
ESPN : 12
The earky consensus is that he *might* be gone but in the same it’s indeed somewhat close to where we could draft should he drop a couple spots.
WuTang_OG wrote:SpezNc wrote:WuTang_OG wrote:If Ryan Dunn is staring at us with the Indiana pick, Raps will be all over him. Team need to replenish length and defensive versatility
Tankathon : 15
Ringer : 14
No ceilings : 9
ESPN : 12
The earky consensus is that he *might* be gone but in the same it’s indeed somewhat close to where we could draft should he drop a couple spots.
Mocks mean nothing. Especially in a wild draft year like this one, guys will be taken all over the board
WuTang_OG wrote:SpezNc wrote:WuTang_OG wrote:If Ryan Dunn is staring at us with the Indiana pick, Raps will be all over him. Team need to replenish length and defensive versatility
Tankathon : 15
Ringer : 14
No ceilings : 9
ESPN : 12
The earky consensus is that he *might* be gone but in the same it’s indeed somewhat close to where we could draft should he drop a couple spots.
Mocks mean nothing. Especially in a wild draft year like this one, guys will be taken all over the board
WuTang_OG wrote:KOC but ... This is a draft to add to your "guy" ... Spurs with Wemby, Toronto with Barnes, and I agree. There's enough talent overall here to add to Barnes even just 1 guy out of our picks.
WuTang_OG wrote:KOC but ... This is a draft to add to your "guy" ... Spurs with Wemby, Toronto with Barnes, and I agree. There's enough talent overall here to add to Barnes even just 1 guy out of our picks.
DG88 wrote:WuTang_OG wrote:KOC but ... This is a draft to add to your "guy" ... Spurs with Wemby, Toronto with Barnes, and I agree. There's enough talent overall here to add to Barnes even just 1 guy out of our picks.
I agree with KOC here. This is the draft you find either your 3rd star or fill out key roles within your team to build around you main guy.
*INGRAM*ALLSTARSEASON* Wemby is HIM
Bruin wrote:
Nothing about that was jaw dropping. But I do think he’s gonna become a solid player and wouldn’t mind him in the mid to late 1st round
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
*INGRAM*ALLSTARSEASON* Wemby is HIMPhilBlackson wrote:I think if people like Mathurin that they should like Ron Holland, I feel like he has the potential to be a slightly better version of Ben. I think he's coming in with a better bball IQ/feel for the game and better defence. So even though I want Tidj (first) then one of Sarr or Zach R over him, I'd still be pretty ok with him being the "downside" of not getting the guys you wanted to tank for.
If we get into/stay in the top 6, I'm actually really confident that we're gonna get another core level piece & one where you're not feel too upset IF you did give up a non top 6 pick in the following draft.
I think the top 6 of this draft is at bare minimum comparable to next year's 7th pick & up level, if not better! I personally don't rule out that a prospect like any of Tidj, Zach & Sarr wouldn't crack next year's top 6...maybe not top 2 but I'd be shocked if they're not at least comparable to 7+. If the talent is likely comparable then getting the talent here sooner than later just makes sense to me & there is no chance you gave up the pick that's Flagg (or Bailey).
Tanking this season is the right & only thing we should do imo.
PhilBlackson wrote:DG88 wrote:WuTang_OG wrote:KOC but ... This is a draft to add to your "guy" ... Spurs with Wemby, Toronto with Barnes, and I agree. There's enough talent overall here to add to Barnes even just 1 guy out of our picks.
I agree with KOC here. This is the draft you find either your 3rd star or fill out key roles within your team to build around you main guy.
I wouldn't concede that just yet...
If we're talking about American born or at least competing in North America, ok maybe right now no one stands out as having potential to be a 1st or 2nd option but I don't just assume that about the international top prospects ie/ Tidjane, Zach R & even Sarr, again just yet.
Might sound funny to be adding Sarr's name when he is being slotted as the 1st overall pick on some draft boards now but I think the reality is going into this draft I honestly don't think many of the so called "analysts" were quite "in the know" about a lot of the international players and I think that's common. There's always some catching up to do ie/ teams heard Sengun was good but there still was some doubt, Bilal was slotted as a late 1st to 2nd rd majority of the year then skyrockets to top 7, heck all of Europe was screaming Luka's next & most of American media was like "I'm not sure I'd take him over Ayton" lol (no disrespect to DA because he was a good prospect), with Wemby everybody "heard" the hype but if people are being honest they didn't buy it until he came here for everyone to see him takeover Scoot & North America lol.
So I think those guys MAY suffer from some of that...I'm not saying any of them are Luka or Wemby lol but would it surprise me if they're suffering from some of the stuff Sengun did?! Nope because most of these people making these mock drafts probably very rarely go to Europe or watch these leagues to really know. So takes time to get more information on these guys, they still deal with some "stigma" of not playing in the "best" leagues or don't know how to judge them especially when some of the teams these young guys join have grown men on them that are still trying to win in those leagues & aren't as concerned with "featuring" those players as probably most college teams are. So it is tough to point fingers and blame for not knowing. I'm just saying we'll see as we get closer to the draft what's being said about guys like Tidj, Zach and Sarr (heck Big Z just got going and people were kinda shocked if we're honest) so I just say "it remains to be seen" but from the little footage that's starting to come in, I'm not so sure there these guys might be better than that.
Dalek wrote:To me in this draft for that Indy pick I think the safest prospect is Adem Bona. Just a great defender and board eater and has some passing skill.
Kind of reminds me of Jarace Walker or Okongwu. He also just seems like a high motor guy who doesn't try to overreach his role at UCLA.
*INGRAM*ALLSTARSEASON* Wemby is HIM PhilBlackson wrote:DG88 wrote:WuTang_OG wrote:KOC but ... This is a draft to add to your "guy" ... Spurs with Wemby, Toronto with Barnes, and I agree. There's enough talent overall here to add to Barnes even just 1 guy out of our picks.
I agree with KOC here. This is the draft you find either your 3rd star or fill out key roles within your team to build around you main guy.
I wouldn't concede that just yet...
If we're talking about American born or at least competing in North America, ok maybe right now no one stands out as having potential to be a 1st or 2nd option but I don't just assume that about the international top prospects ie/ Tidjane, Zach R & even Sarr, again just yet.
Might sound funny to be adding Sarr's name when he is being slotted as the 1st overall pick on some draft boards now but I think the reality is going into this draft I honestly don't think many of the so called "analysts" were quite "in the know" about a lot of the international players and I think that's common. There's always some catching up to do ie/ teams heard Sengun was good but there still was some doubt, Bilal was slotted as a late 1st to 2nd rd majority of the year then skyrockets to top 7, heck all of Europe was screaming Luka's next & most of American media was like "I'm not sure I'd take him over Ayton" lol (no disrespect to DA because he was a good prospect), with Wemby everybody "heard" the hype but if people are being honest they didn't buy it until he came here for everyone to see him takeover Scoot & North America lol.
So I think those guys MAY suffer from some of that...I'm not saying any of them are Luka or Wemby lol but would it surprise me if they're suffering from some of the stuff Sengun did?! Nope because most of these people making these mock drafts probably very rarely go to Europe or watch these leagues to really know. So takes time to get more information on these guys, they still deal with some "stigma" of not playing in the "best" leagues or don't know how to judge them especially when some of the teams these young guys join have grown men on them that are still trying to win in those leagues & aren't as concerned with "featuring" those players as probably most college teams are. So it is tough to point fingers and blame for not knowing. I'm just saying we'll see as we get closer to the draft what's being said about guys like Tidj, Zach and Sarr (heck Big Z just got going and people were kinda shocked if we're honest) so I just say "it remains to be seen" but from the little footage that's starting to come in, I'm not so sure there these guys might be better than that.
PhilBlackson wrote:Dalek wrote:To me in this draft for that Indy pick I think the safest prospect is Adem Bona. Just a great defender and board eater and has some passing skill.
Kind of reminds me of Jarace Walker or Okongwu. He also just seems like a high motor guy who doesn't try to overreach his role at UCLA.
I don't see comparable shooting to any of those names.