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Post #321 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:00 pm

Richard4444 wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:A lot of praise for our starting C

Read on Twitter

I wonder if we can retain him for next season. We can only pay him around 16M I guess...

In Brock and Leon we trust. Hope they figure out a way.

drekwins · Post #322 » by **drekwins** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:01 pm

duetta wrote:
Fat Kat wrote:Y’all ready to believe in Donte yet? There was never any reason for him to only play 25 minutes per game. Stagger him and Brunson, and that gives you your extra play maker? Picks for Jordan Clarkson?

Off the way that he is playing, you have every reason to accept him as being legit. I was a skeptic of the signing but you can't argue with results (unless one is a complete idiot).

He's playing like a third star. He's playing as well as any of the suspects we're supposed to attempt to trade for.

The big thing with him is he is still effective even when he isn't making 9 3's. He's always a threat so he stretches the floor. He plays defense. He playmakes. Gets assists, steals and rebounds... and, he's low maintenance. He's not a zero if his shot isnt falling or a turnover machine. I'm all in on him, and I did not forsee that.

sol537 · Post #323 » by **sol537** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:03 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:Knicks closed the 2nd quarter with:

McBride
Donte
Grimes
Hart
Sims

That's 4 guards and a PF/C type.

Dinosaur Thibs plays a lot of 3 and 4 guard lineups.

I mean, it helps that the FO hasn't supplied nearly any backup wings with size but still

Ball movement overcomes size, i.e. Speed Kills

Plus, our smaller guys have physically imposed their will on bigger teams. That a mindset

It also helps that there's few low post PF's left in this league... Lauri and Collins did nothing against smaller guys.

Galvationknicks · Post #324 » by **Galvationknicks** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:04 pm

Lol we didn't notice that we kept calling for the dukey 3.
And the basketball gods gave 3 Nova champs

Post #325 » by **GONYK** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:06 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:
Richard4444 wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:A lot of praise for our starting C

Read on Twitter

I wonder if we can retain him for next season. We can only pay him around 16M I guess...

In Brock and Leon we trust. Hope they figure out a way.

IHart is CAA. I think we'll be fine.

drekwins · Post #326 » by **drekwins** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:07 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:Knicks closed the 2nd quarter with:

McBride
Donte
Grimes
Hart
Sims

That's 4 guards and a PF/C type.

Dinosaur Thibs plays a lot of 3 and 4 guard lineups.

I mean, it helps that the FO hasn't supplied nearly any backup wings with size but still

Ball movement overcomes size, i.e. Speed Kills

Plus, our smaller guys have physically imposed their will on bigger teams. That a mindset

Hart allows this to be possible. He is so physical and such a good rebounder. This lineup can get the defensive rebound and then pushes like mad men. Once Mitch is back, if you put iHart in this lineup and it's extremely dangerous. Lots of fast break points and ball movement. That's the type of lineup to give a knockout punch in the 2Q.

knicksNOTslick · Post #327 » by **knicksNOTslick** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:10 pm

Jose7 wrote:I’m good on seeing Mitch get extended minutes over haretenstein. Ihart clearly a better player and fit for this team..time has come to move on from Mitch

I've always liked the IHart/Mitch rotation. Probably the best (or 2nd best) center rotation in the league. Hartenstein isn't the most durable and the same for Mitch so they can each play about 24 minutes per game and we're set at center, more or less depending on the team and which player is more effective.

Post #328 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:16 pm

GONYK wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:
Richard4444 wrote:
I wonder if we can retain him for next season. We can only pay him around 16M I guess...

In Brock and Leon we trust. Hope they figure out a way.
IHart is CAA. I think we'll be fine.

Wonder if they can work out a one year deal to get bird rights and then a big extension after? Or something like that...

Post #329 » by **Jeff Van Gully** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:18 pm

Richard4444 wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:A lot of praise for our starting C

Read on Twitter

I wonder if we can retain him for next season. We can only pay him around 16M I guess...

correct. max starting salary we can offer him with early bird rights is a shade over $16m. he would need to be cool with the max 1+1 for full bird rights the following offseason if he wants to stay. a smart team should make him an offer he can't refuse this offseason.

Post #330 » by **Jeff Van Gully** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:19 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:
GONYK wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:
In Brock and Leon we trust. Hope they figure out a way.
IHart is CAA. I think we'll be fine.

Wonder if they can work out a one year deal to get bird rights and then a big extension after? Or something like that...

that's not allowed. he'd have to wait until the following offseason for the extension.

Post #331 » by **Jeff Van Gully** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:20 pm

knicksNOTslick wrote:
Jose7 wrote:I’m good on seeing Mitch get extended minutes over haretenstein. Ihart clearly a better player and fit for this team..time has come to move on from Mitch

I've always liked the IHart/Mitch rotation. Probably the best (or 2nd best) center rotation in the league. Hartenstein isn't the most durable and the same for Mitch so they can each play about 24 minutes per game and we're set at center, more or less depending on the team and which player is more effective.

funny thing is, Hartenstein likes it too. and speaks publicly to that point. recently.

like... the timeshare with mitch is ideal for everyone involved.

Post #332 » by **GONYK** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:22 pm

Jeff Van Gully wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:
GONYK wrote:IHart is CAA. I think we'll be fine.

Wonder if they can work out a one year deal to get bird rights and then a big extension after? Or something like that...

that's not allowed. he'd have to wait until the following offseason for the extension.

Just thinking it through, I can't think of another team that will have 18M+ in cap, wants to spend it on a C, and is a more attractive situation than the Knicks right now.

All the incentives are here for both sides to work out a long term agreement and we have the CBA experts to figure out.

Post #333 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:23 pm

Jeff Van Gully wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:
GONYK wrote:IHart is CAA. I think we'll be fine.

Wonder if they can work out a one year deal to get bird rights and then a big extension after? Or something like that...

that's not allowed. he'd have to wait until the following offseason for the extension.

What you said about the 1+1 deal with a handshake for an extension the next summer could make the most sense unless there's a loophole.

Or maybe iHart is ok with whatever is the max we can offer

He seems pretty happy here at least.

Tron Carter · Post #334 » by **Tron Carter** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:27 pm

Fat Kat wrote:

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

Post #335 » by **Capn'O** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:33 pm

Between Precious, iHart, and OG it could be an expensive summer. I, for one, fully support spending Dolan's money on all of them.

Tron Carter wrote:
Fat Kat wrote:

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

He's so good with bigs.

Post #336 » by **Capn'O** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:34 pm

Jeff Van Gully wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:
GONYK wrote:IHart is CAA. I think we'll be fine.

Wonder if they can work out a one year deal to get bird rights and then a big extension after? Or something like that...

that's not allowed. he'd have to wait until the following offseason for the extension.

We don't need to extend him though. What we do is give him a full max with a year one opt out. Then he's a Bird player and we can go over the cap to retain.

stuporman · Post #337 » by **stuporman** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:35 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:Too much positivity in here

The BBGods have been trying to punish the positivity with injuries and it still hasn't stopped it...the next step is coming after our personal lives, the menthols, the oreos, the bourbon, the pickleballs, the drugs....dammit we have to stop or it will be pure chaos.

Knick4Real · Post #338 » by **Knick4Real** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:40 pm

Fat Kat wrote:Y’all ready to believe in Donte yet? There was never any reason for him to only play 25 minutes per game. Stagger him and Brunson, and that gives you your extra play maker? Picks for Jordan Clarkson?

I was saying FOR MONTHS we needed to give Donte the keys. When Grimes was struggling, I wanted Thibs to give DiVo a shot as the starting 2. I'm glad he did and fans finally see what we already had sitting on the bench. :nod:

Iron Mantis · Post #339 » by **Iron Mantis** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:41 pm

stuporman wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:Too much positivity in here

The BBGods have been trying to punish the positivity with injuries and it still hasn't stopped it...the next step is coming after our personal lives, the menthols, the oreos, the bourbon, the pickleballs, the drugs....dammit we have to stop or it will be pure chaos.

As long as they leave Brunson alone, we'll be fine.

Post #340 » by **GONYK** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:46 pm

stuporman wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:Too much positivity in here

The BBGods have been trying to punish the positivity with injuries and it still hasn't stopped it...the next step is coming after our personal lives, the menthols, the oreos, the bourbon, the pickleballs, the drugs....dammit we have to stop or it will be pure chaos.

Reframe: The BBGods are developing our bench in Jan/Feb so everyone is healthy and locked in for the playoff run