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Post#121 » by Profound23 » Thu Feb 1, 2024 1:45 pm

JimmyTheKid wrote:Can't believe I stayed up for that train wreck. Doc gets a grace period to right the ship, thats for sure. But I hope I don't have to do this whole "where's AJJ" song-and-dance for another half season like I did when AG was coach. Was happy to let Doc "showcase" some bench vets so they could up their value before the deadline, but if anything, their values are plummeting.

An extremely rough shooting night coupled with old/slow/bad defense makes for scratch-your-eyes-out basketball viewership. And its just weird with eleventy nine coaches on the bench, most of who look like they have no idea what they're supposed to do. This whole thing currently feels all wrong. But Doc gets some time here.



Look at Maxey's numbers his rookie year under Doc. Look at SGA's his rookie year under Doc. I am not saying AJJ is anywhere close to these guys, but Doc does not play rookies. He definitely should get a grace period for certain things, but playing young players is not one of them.
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Post#122 » by yannisk » Thu Feb 1, 2024 1:50 pm

Profound23 wrote:Was really hoping we would win this one for Dame.

You guys are lucky. You have all given up while I still have Championship hopes. Going to hurt me more if we blow it and you'll enjoy it more if I am right.


I have not yet given up yet, but if the trade deadline passes without at least a capable defensive SG coming back I will give up
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Post#123 » by BUCKnation » Thu Feb 1, 2024 1:56 pm

blazza18 wrote:I still can’t believe we started the final quarter with six straight turnovers. Five of them were from the two superstars too. Totally inexcusable.

B2b games with quarters like that
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Post#124 » by TroyD92 » Thu Feb 1, 2024 1:57 pm

I think a real shakeup move is needed. Too many overlapping guys who are terrible at the same thing. You can’t hide Dame, Beas, and Khris (and Bobby, Pat, Brook) at the same time
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Kidd would have curb stomped him.

Maybe if his name was Denise instead of Dennis.


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Post#125 » by Bigcat245 » Thu Feb 1, 2024 1:58 pm

Well, we'll always have the 2021 season.
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Post#126 » by BUCKnation » Thu Feb 1, 2024 2:00 pm

I know this is a thing with doc, but the bench falling off a cliff this year is disastrous and I just dont see the benefit in icing out AJJ or Marjon when the guys in front of them are consistently trash.
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Post#127 » by Ron Swanson » Thu Feb 1, 2024 2:04 pm

Rough nights from both your superstars, Blazers hit every tough mid-range shot down the stretch (17/28 overall), and still had multiple chances to win at the end, but just pissed it away with garbage execution. Meh.
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Post#128 » by Neuromancer56 » Thu Feb 1, 2024 2:18 pm

No coach could come in and fix all the problems this team has overnight. Give Doc a little time FFS.
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Post#129 » by ABucksFan » Thu Feb 1, 2024 2:19 pm

Need a major shakeup and I think only way that happens is moving on from Midds
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Post#130 » by Neuromancer56 » Thu Feb 1, 2024 2:23 pm

rilamann wrote:I want Jrue back.

:(
I'm thinking the same thing, but don't **** say it.
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Post#131 » by msiris » Thu Feb 1, 2024 2:23 pm

I wish Dame would stop being a 3pt chucker. What matters the most is how we finish the game. Do we really want Brook taking a 3 when down by 1? Can't even even get a shot off to tie the game. This team is lazy. They rather sit behind the 3 point line and chuck away. 48% on 52 shots while 28% on 48 3s. Down 1 and you take a lower chance to win it. Too stupid to play the smart odds. Anybody else think the shot selection should be 1/3 3s and 2/3 2s?
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Post#132 » by Neuromancer56 » Thu Feb 1, 2024 2:25 pm

mediocrityrules wrote:Yeah and someone needs to let Doc know that Dre needs to be on the court. He lifts the energy levels. You want a spark, he's the guy.

I can this being a ' 'oc Rivers kind of season. There's just no D (after Denver looked promising)
Dre as he is right now is honestly better than Cam or Pat.
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Post#133 » by HKPackFan » Thu Feb 1, 2024 2:26 pm

pifhluk23 wrote:I've been backing Dame all year but it's getting to the point of maybe we should bail on this experiment before it's too late. His shooting is just so bad, maybe he just can't live up to the expectations this team has.


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Post#134 » by msiris » Thu Feb 1, 2024 2:27 pm

Neuromancer56 wrote:
rilamann wrote:I want Jrue back.

:(
I'm thinking the same thing, but don't **** say it.
The last couple of years Jrue was the 2nd best player on the team. Oh well.
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Post#135 » by Neuromancer56 » Thu Feb 1, 2024 2:28 pm

BroncoBuck wrote:The Brook signing has been infuriating. It’s just going to be so hard to beat Boston (if we face them) in a best of 7 with him on the floor. I don’t think the Bucks will trade him, but him and Bobby are the two that I’d want gone the most.

Ex players always talk about how difficult it is to play knowing you’re on the block and that’s exactly what I see from Bobby every night. He’s been the guy most likely to be dealt all season and he’s played like it. He had a good run here, but man I can’t wait to see him get dealt.

Pat just looks like a product of Bud. His athleticism looks like it declined, but he just looks completely out of rhythm on the floor.

Crowder is still semi-washed up

Jackson was playing like garbage for weeks and Prunty immediately benched him. Doc seems to have followed suit. I get he’s a rookie and people would rather see younger trash than older trash, but he might be better off going to Oshkosh for a while.

Payne is who we thought he was.
Payne is not at all who I thought he was. I thought he could contribute a little something, at least on offense. I did not think he was near this useless.
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Post#136 » by Ron Swanson » Thu Feb 1, 2024 2:28 pm

Have you guys even looked at Jrue's numbers and watched how he's played this year, like, at all? Bail on Dame? What kind of reactionary bull **** is going on here?

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Post#137 » by msiris » Thu Feb 1, 2024 2:36 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Have you guys even looked at Jrue's numbers and watched how he's played this year, like, at all? Bail on Dame? What kind of reactionary bull **** is going on here?

:lol:
Maybe he doesnt have to be. He is like the 4th in the pecking order. They have more options then we do.
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Post#138 » by pifhluk23 » Thu Feb 1, 2024 2:40 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Have you guys even looked at Jrue's numbers and watched how he's played this year, like, at all? Bail on Dame? What kind of reactionary bull **** is going on here?

:lol:


The idea is that Jrue/Murray + 6th man Beas is significantly better than Dame/Beas which the way Dame is playing this year it's not even up for debate. The idea of bailing on Dame is we've got 1 week before the deadline and if he really is going to play below career averages for the rest of his career then it's not insane to bail on him right now before his value tanks and we have this ridiculous contract to deal with.

Gun to my head I probably still wouldn't do it just because if he turns it around we have a shot. I guess it would depend on what type of players we could get in return.
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Re: PG Portland: Loss 

Post#139 » by pifhluk23 » Thu Feb 1, 2024 2:42 pm

pifhluk23 wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:Have you guys even looked at Jrue's numbers and watched how he's played this year, like, at all? Bail on Dame? What kind of reactionary bull **** is going on here?

:lol:


The idea is that Jrue/Murray + 6th man Beas is significantly better than Dame/Beas which the way Dame is playing this year it's not even up for debate. The idea of bailing on Dame is we've got 1 week before the deadline and if he really is going to play below career averages for the rest of his career then it's not insane to bail on him right now before his value tanks and we have this ridiculous contract to deal with. I wanted to trade Midds for Butler and the majority of the board (+ Giannis) was against that, I'm worried we are in a similar situation right now.

Gun to my head I probably still wouldn't do it just because if he turns it around we have a shot. I guess it would depend on what type of players we could get in return.
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Re: PG Portland: Loss 

Post#140 » by msiris » Thu Feb 1, 2024 2:42 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Have you guys even looked at Jrue's numbers and watched how he's played this year, like, at all? Bail on Dame? What kind of reactionary bull **** is going on here?

:lol:
Also would have traded mids instead of jrue knowing that our backcourt cant stop anyone.
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