[Woj] Steven Adams to Houston for VO and 2nds

[Scoot McGroot]

Anyone else confused by the timing here? There’s no rush; neither guy will play extra games. Adams has been mostly rehabbing away, so you may not even get him in the locker room this season.

Seems like this would’ve been best waiting until the trade deadline in case it could’ve helped another deal get done? I doubt Memphis traded for Oladipo to play him. Just, feeling like that Windy meme right now….

Maybe Memphis needs the extra $3M in breathing room under the tax to make a trade and stay below the tax? Idk that's about the only thing I can think of besides both sides were just happy with this. I suppose Houston could use Adams as a stepping stone salary but that would be very expensive for that and it seems the really like him

The tax reason makes complete sense as a trade motivation, but timing wise? Not as much. Would mean the same if traded today as traded on deadline day, no? And tying that into whatever other trade Memphis might want to make for those reasons would likely be better for salary matching reasons, right?

[K_chile22]

Anyone else confused by the timing here? There’s no rush; neither guy will play extra games. Adams has been mostly rehabbing away, so you may not even get him in the locker room this season.

Seems like this would’ve been best waiting until the trade deadline in case it could’ve helped another deal get done? I doubt Memphis traded for Oladipo to play him. Just, feeling like that Windy meme right now….

Maybe Memphis needs the extra $3M in breathing room under the tax to make a trade and stay below the tax? Idk that's about the only thing I can think of besides both sides were just happy with this. I suppose Houston could use Adams as a stepping stone salary but that would be very expensive for that and it seems the really like him

The tax reason makes complete sense as a trade motivation, but timing wise? Not as much. Would mean the same if traded today as traded on deadline day, no? And tying that into whatever other trade Memphis might want to make for those reasons would likely be better for salary matching reasons, right?

Yeah I think they just were happy with the deal and didn't want to wait/have something throw a wrench into things. I suppose they didn't have to make it official right away tho

[psman2]

Maybe Memphis needs the extra $3M in breathing room under the tax to make a trade and stay below the tax? Idk that's about the only thing I can think of besides both sides were just happy with this. I suppose Houston could use Adams as a stepping stone salary but that would be very expensive for that and it seems the really like him

The tax reason makes complete sense as a trade motivation, but timing wise? Not as much. Would mean the same if traded today as traded on deadline day, no? And tying that into whatever other trade Memphis might want to make for those reasons would likely be better for salary matching reasons, right?

Yeah I think they just were happy with the deal and didn't want to wait/have something throw a wrench into things. I suppose they didn't have to make it official right away tho

That is how I read it too. I think if another trade opportunity happens before the deadline, Memphis still has Kennard and plenty of smaller deals to match salary for the vast majority of trades that might occur. Not being able to combine Adams salary is very likely a non factor here.

[balsamic_ducks]

I really like this for the rockets. Adams is probably only a 20mpg guy at most going forward but he would be a great backup to Sengun.

I don't understand this for Memphis. People are saying it's for tax reasons but they still need a center. Who are they getting for cheaper than Adams?

[HartfordWhalers]

Who are they getting for cheaper than Adams?

Someone worse.

[K_chile22]

Who are they getting for cheaper than Adams?

Someone worse.

tbf he might not want/be ready to play starters minutes yet next year so they'd have to find someone else anyways

[psman2]

I really like this for the rockets. Adams is probably only a 20mpg guy at most going forward but he would be a great backup to Sengun.

I don't understand this for Memphis. People are saying it's for tax reasons but they still need a center. Who are they getting for cheaper than Adams?

JJJ is our closing center so really only need a situational guy there getting some 15-25 minutes depending on the game. I don't think finding a guy like that with all our trade and FA avenues is going to be a huge issue. Clarke will likely see minutes there and Tillman still might be brought back too.

Our lottery pick could be a center this year. Not too far fetch that player could give us 15-20 quality minutes by the end of next season.

We have a 12.6 TPE, we could trade for a guy like Rob Williams.

If we stay in the TAX we still have the TMLE to go after a guy like Drummond or Plumlee or Theis.

We can also waive Kennard and move Konchar and have the full MLE to offer. Hartenstein (might be over our budget now though) or take a run at Goga Bitadze. Kelly O might be a target as well.

We also know have enough breathing room to do a SNT in the offseason for a guy like Claxton if we want to spend more money and assets.

[SD2042]

I will admit that I expected a Steven Adams trade to happen in the offseason rather than be this soon. More of a knee jerk as it happened sooner than expected. I get the trade as for the Rox, they add a backup big man in Adams. As he's still on the shelf until next season. For the Grizzlies, it was a tax move to get further under the cap when the salary resets in the offseason. I think there is more to come for the Grizzlies as to pertaining to another move in the works. I'm not the biggest fan of the move, but I can understand the reason behind.

[VCfor3]

I hate this with every fiber of my being. We did this to avoid the second tax apron and get some assets, but Adams was an important role player for us. We definitely will be shopping for a center at the deadline and this summer.

Would you be interested in Luka Garza for a second? He would help your depleted team and maybe you can find a way to make him passable as a 3rd string C.

I think we are trying to open a roster spot to convert GG Jackson and get him on a long term deal with team options. I don't think we would waste a 2nd or a roster spot on a guy that has a very low odds of being a part of our roster next year like Garza. I think we are more likely to eat bad salary with our TPEs for picks too if we open up additional roster spots versus sending out a 2nd for a guy like Garza.

Yeah I think we conserve assets unless it is for a better player than Garza. We aren't worried about this season plus have a guy on a 10-day that could potentially be a 3rd string C if we want. As for GG, I agree we likely are trying to convert him to a real contract.

[K_chile22]

Anyone else confused by the timing here? There’s no rush; neither guy will play extra games. Adams has been mostly rehabbing away, so you may not even get him in the locker room this season.

Seems like this would’ve been best waiting until the trade deadline in case it could’ve helped another deal get done? I doubt Memphis traded for Oladipo to play him. Just, feeling like that Windy meme right now….

Maybe Memphis needs the extra $3M in breathing room under the tax to make a trade and stay below the tax? Idk that's about the only thing I can think of besides both sides were just happy with this. I suppose Houston could use Adams as a stepping stone salary but that would be very expensive for that and it seems the really like him

The tax reason makes complete sense as a trade motivation, but timing wise? Not as much. Would mean the same if traded today as traded on deadline day, no? And tying that into whatever other trade Memphis might want to make for those reasons would likely be better for salary matching reasons, right?

Think Hollinger figured out what it likely is: gives Houston time to get Adams in and do a detailed physical with time to potentially re-negotiate if something goes awry.
He said from his Grizz connection he heard Houston is pretty comfortable with his physicals from what they've seen but still the extra time to take a good look is nice

[Scoot McGroot]

Maybe Memphis needs the extra $3M in breathing room under the tax to make a trade and stay below the tax? Idk that's about the only thing I can think of besides both sides were just happy with this. I suppose Houston could use Adams as a stepping stone salary but that would be very expensive for that and it seems the really like him

The tax reason makes complete sense as a trade motivation, but timing wise? Not as much. Would mean the same if traded today as traded on deadline day, no? And tying that into whatever other trade Memphis might want to make for those reasons would likely be better for salary matching reasons, right?

Think Hollinger figured out what it likely is: gives Houston time to get Adams in and do a detailed physical with time to potentially re-negotiate if something goes awry.
He said from his Grizz connection he heard Houston is pretty comfortable with his physicals from what they've seen but still the extra time to take a good look is nice

Yeah, I could buy that. Kind of like in the Levert to Indy multi team trade, Leverts cancer diagnose spurred additional negotiations. But, it’s still even early for that.