Wardell, meet Wendell - GSW/ORL/BRK

Syko_boB · Post #1 » by **Syko_boB** » Sat Feb 3, 2024 1:01 am

GSW

Moses Moody, Kevon Looney & Gui Santos
+ 26 & 28 ATL SRP (unprotected)
For
Wendell Carter Jr

Golden State adds a beast down low who can man the 5 in their high paced system for years to come

Carter Jr / Saric
Green / Jackson-Davis
Kuminga / Wiggins
Thompson / Podziemski
Curry / Paul

ORL

Wendell Carter Jr & Cole Anthony
+ 24 FRP (top 3 protected, or unprotected next year)
For
Nicolas Claxton, Moses Moody & Gui Santos

Orlando upgrades their rotation to better suit their stars

Claxton / Bitadze
Banchero / Wagner
Wagner / Isaac
Suggs / Moody
Black / Fultz

BRK

Nicolas Claxton
For
Cole Anthony & Kevon Looney
+ 24 ORL FRP
+ 26 & 28 ATL SRP

Brooklyn gets out of FA negotiations with Claxton, and opts for cheap bigs who play their roles well on a team that possesses infinite lineup possibilities from 1-4 with all that versatility

Sharpe / Looney
Johnson / Finney-Smith
Bridges / O'Neale
Thomas / Dinwiddie
Anthony / Simmons

Warriorfan · Post #2 » by **Warriorfan** » Sat Feb 3, 2024 5:02 am

Warriors just sign Dwight Howard or Cousins for min and hope Looney who just entered his prime returns to form

Coxy · Post #3 » by **Coxy** » Sat Feb 3, 2024 5:06 am

Carter Jnr aint all that. "Beast"? Nah.

NW · Post #4 » by NW » Sat Feb 3, 2024 1:44 pm

Coxy wrote:Carter Jnr aint all that. "Beast"? Nah.

Yeah, " beast" is a stretch, but WCJ would help GS out and be a good fit. The Athletics Anthony Slater said he's a name that has been discussed by the FO. I like the trade for GS

jayjaysee · Post #5 » by **jayjaysee** » Sat Feb 3, 2024 1:52 pm

I don’t think Orlando owes a first in a WCJ for Claxton swap at this point. And I’ve long been higher on Claxton and lower on WCJ than the majority here.

I have no idea what value the Cole/Moody swap adds, but don’t think Orlando would care about that.. they’ve got Suggs/Black, Howard, and Houstan for the future.. If they’re bringing in a young guard it should be one better than that group not just another body..

Think they’ve want the value made up in a different way.

The GSW part feels right. And the Brooklyn part feels good.

zaymon · Post #6 » by **zaymon** » Sat Feb 3, 2024 2:13 pm

Players make sense for Orlando but WCJ cpntract is too good to add frp and would rather see what we have in Jett Howard than Moody.

Post #7 » by **Texas Chuck** » Sat Feb 3, 2024 2:16 pm

Take out the Orlando pick with almost no protections and put in the 25 DEN 1st and I think you have something. But Claxton on an expiring isn't worth that good of a pick.

Really like the GSW portion of this though. Think its perfect.

tiderulz · Post #8 » by **tiderulz** » Sat Feb 3, 2024 2:50 pm

zaymon wrote:Players make sense for Orlando but WCJ cpntract is too good to add frp and would rather see what we have in Jett Howard than Moody.

they actually dont make sense, as Orlando really needs a PG first and foremost.

TheBrooklynKidd · Post #9 » by **TheBrooklynKidd** » Sat Feb 3, 2024 2:51 pm

If this is the best offer for Claxton I think the Nets keep him.

zaymon · Post #10 » by **zaymon** » Sat Feb 3, 2024 3:00 pm

tiderulz wrote:
zaymon wrote:Players make sense for Orlando but WCJ cpntract is too good to add frp and would rather see what we have in Jett Howard than Moody.

they actually dont make sense, as Orlando really needs a PG first and foremost.

I am curious how would Claxton look next to Paolo. Similar to JI ? I dont care for Moody, but if he can shoot we could try him for cheap if Jett doesnt pan out.

JKiddy · Post #11 » by **JKiddy** » Sat Feb 3, 2024 3:38 pm

TheBrooklynKidd wrote:If this is the best offer for Claxton I think the Nets keep him.

Correct. This is not nearly enough for Claxton.

Post #12 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Sat Feb 3, 2024 3:42 pm

JKiddy wrote:
TheBrooklynKidd wrote:If this is the best offer for Claxton I think the Nets keep him.

Correct. This is not nearly enough for Claxton.

Maybe they do, or maybe he signs with a cap space team. Which is the same risk a team trading for him is taking, and why he’s on the market at all.

orlando_joe · Post #13 » by **orlando_joe** » Sat Feb 3, 2024 3:59 pm

magic just ride with the floor stretching good locked into contract in wcj no need for this kind of gamble

Post #14 » by **Texas Chuck** » Sat Feb 3, 2024 4:01 pm

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
JKiddy wrote:
TheBrooklynKidd wrote:If this is the best offer for Claxton I think the Nets keep him.

Correct. This is not nearly enough for Claxton.

Maybe they do, or maybe he signs with a cap space team. Which is the same risk a team trading for him is taking, and why he’s on the market at all.

free agents always sign with my team if I want them to. Jalen Brunson never leaves. And not only do they never leave they always sign for less because reasons.

It always amazes me how posters have zero issues understanding that pending free agents for 29 teams have less value because of this, but the free agents on their teams should return locked up prices or they will just automatically keep them at a number they like.

It's just such a glaring blind spot for so many posters here. It's wild.

JKiddy · Post #15 » by **JKiddy** » Sat Feb 3, 2024 4:05 pm

I think if Claxton did not come out and already say he wants to resign with the Nets that the fans or ownership/management would be intimidated to trade him for anything. But, this is not that case with this particular player.

Skybox · Post #16 » by **Skybox** » Sat Feb 3, 2024 4:22 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
JKiddy wrote:
Correct. This is not nearly enough for Claxton.

Maybe they do, or maybe he signs with a cap space team. Which is the same risk a team trading for him is taking, and why he’s on the market at all.

free agents always sign with my team if I want them to. Jalen Brunson never leaves. And not only do they never leave they always sign for less because reasons.

It always amazes me how posters have zero issues understanding that pending free agents for 29 teams have less value because of this, but the free agents on their teams should return locked up prices or they will just automatically keep them at a number they like.

It's just such a glaring blind spot for so many posters here. It's wild.

Agree. It's a big factor...there's certainly some degree of optimism that no trade is made without some handshakes being made, but it's not for sure...nobody is talking about OG or Pascal leaving after their new teams paid dearly for those "rentals". But, definitely, it's a big risk...I think it's compounded with Claxton (who I'd love for the fit in ORL) because his next deal is much harder to predict...he is very much a specialist, but an elite one. One could argue that OG is a similar risk - if he thinks he's getting a max, for example. If Claxton gets more than $20 per - there's a real danger that it becomes an albatross, even if he maintains his high level of defensive play. I wouldn't say a negative value, but maybe enough to be too much for a guy that should be, maybe, the 4th best player on a contender.

On the other hand, it's equally juvenile when a fan casually spouts, "Why should I give up assets - we can just sign him this summer for free?". This is only even remotely likely if there's some Brunson-level tampering or if the player has some real connection or even made a request to be traded there...otherwise, it's increasingly rare to "swipe" a FA with cash alone - unless it's a gross overpay he couldn't turn down (and his old team wouldn't pay).