Best Rookie Contract Player for Toronto's 2024 First

[vege]

Keyonte George from the Jazz?

For a pick with the upside of 7 in a bad draft? No thanks. I do like the Ivey idea, though, but San Antonio owes value.

That pick could land you Sasser not Ivey.

[babyjax13]

Keyonte George from the Jazz?

For a pick with the upside of 7 in a bad draft? No thanks. I do like the Ivey idea, though, but San Antonio owes value.

That pick could land you Sasser not Ivey.

A top 10 pick is worth more than Sasser. I proposed the 2024 Toronto pick and the 2025 Chicago pick for Ivey (both are lightly protected). I think that's about right in giving Detroit two bites and getting San Antonio a clear fit with a high ceiling.

[Kizz Fastfists]

However, let's say the Spurs did get spooked about the idea of having four or five firsts in 2025 and decide to try to cash in on the Toronto pick by getting an guaranteed young player on their roster rather than worrying about lottery balls. Would there be any takers? I feel like the Raptors pick has pretty good value considering the unlikelihood of Toronto being top-six three years in a row combined with the likelihood of them not being a great team for the next couple of years.

The Spurs are unlikely to get the pick in 2024 and it might not convey until 2026. I think it would be a deal done on draft night if they did one. I could see a draft night trade between OKC and SA where OKC trades a pick in this year's draft for the Toronto pick as OKC doesn't have room for the number of rookies they have picks for and the Spurs could want someon available at OKC's second pick, from Houston or Utah, i.e. Clingan, Edey or Brazile.

[wemby]

The Spurs are unlikely to get the pick in 2024 and it might not convey until 2026

Right now Toronto is at 6, that gives the Spurs 54% chance of the pick conveying. So your assertion that "the Spurs are unlikely to get the pick in 2024" right now is FALSE. For the pick to be unlikely to convey in a given year, the Raptors would have to finish with the 5th worst record or lower. Right now they have 7 more wins than no. 4 and 2 more wins than no. 5 (Portland), it's not impossible that they end up 5th but that would require an all out tank... I think it's more likely for that to happen in Portland than Toronto.

[wemby]

Keyonte George from the Jazz?

For a pick with the upside of 7 in a bad draft? No thanks. I do like the Ivey idea, though, but San Antonio owes value.

That pick could land you Sasser not Ivey.

Yeah, I'm sure teams are lining up to offer Detroit high lottery picks for Sasser

[vege]

For a pick with the upside of 7 in a bad draft? No thanks. I do like the Ivey idea, though, but San Antonio owes value.

That pick could land you Sasser not Ivey.

A top 10 pick is worth more than Sasser. I proposed the 2024 Toronto pick and the 2025 Chicago pick for Ivey (both are lightly protected). I think that's about right in giving Detroit two bites and getting San Antonio a clear fit with a high ceiling.

You don't trade a high updise guy for lesser assets.

[vege]

For a pick with the upside of 7 in a bad draft? No thanks. I do like the Ivey idea, though, but San Antonio owes value.

That pick could land you Sasser not Ivey.

Yeah, I'm sure teams are lining up to offer Detroit high lottery picks for Sasser

I am sure Detroit is excited about trading a 2nd year high upside guard for a lesser asset

[wemby]

That pick could land you Sasser not Ivey.

Yeah, I'm sure teams are lining up to offer Detroit high lottery picks for Sasser

I am sure Detroit is excited about trading a 2nd year high upside guard for a lesser asset

A pick that projects as 7th isn't a lesser asset. That's a mind boggling statement.

[vege]

Yeah, I'm sure teams are lining up to offer Detroit high lottery picks for Sasser

I am sure Detroit is excited about trading a 2nd year high upside guard for a lesser asset

A pick that projects as 7th isn't a lesser asset. That's a mind boggling statement.

Uncertain pick, that at best will be #7 in an unknown draft is certainly a lesser asset compared to a player on his 2nd year that has proven to be a NBA caliber player and have high upside and was rated as a top 4 player in a very strong draft.

Stop with the used car seller talk please.

No one is giving up a recent top 5 selection for that pick, unless the player is Killian Hayes level of bad.

[wemby]

I am sure Detroit is excited about trading a 2nd year high upside guard for a lesser asset

A pick that projects as 7th isn't a lesser asset. That's a mind boggling statement.

Uncertain pick, that at best will be #7 in an unknown draft is certainly a lesser asset compared to a player on his 2nd year that has proven to be a NBA caliber player and have high upside and was rated as a top 4 player in a very strong draft.

Stop with the used car seller talk please.

No one is giving up a recent top 5 selection for that pick, unless the player is Killian Hayes level of bad.

I was laughing about that statement where you claimed that pick could land you Sasser. That's just ridiculous.
As for Ivey, I don't like him but I can understand you not wanting to trade him, though.

[vege]

A pick that projects as 7th isn't a lesser asset. That's a mind boggling statement.

Uncertain pick, that at best will be #7 in an unknown draft is certainly a lesser asset compared to a player on his 2nd year that has proven to be a NBA caliber player and have high upside and was rated as a top 4 player in a very strong draft.

Stop with the used car seller talk please.

No one is giving up a recent top 5 selection for that pick, unless the player is Killian Hayes level of bad.

I was laughing about that statement where you claimed that pick could land you Sasser. That's just ridiculous.
As for Ivey, I don't like him but I can understand you not wanting to trade him, though.

I said it's closer to Sasser than Ivey.

Sasser has been pretty good when given minutes FWIW. 48% FG 43% 3 point shooter and 90% FT shooter and 3/1 ATO ratio, decent defender. I would say that's quite impressive for a rookie, especially in a dysfunctional team. Last 10 games he has been shooting 52% from the field and 46% from 3.

The problem is, Monty Williams is (Please Use More Appropriate Word) and he was playing Killian Hayes over Sasser. Now that Killian is out of the rotation Sasser has been playing, and he has been impressive.

[zeebneeb]

Yeah, I'm sure teams are lining up to offer Detroit high lottery picks for Sasser

I am sure Detroit is excited about trading a 2nd year high upside guard for a lesser asset

A pick that projects as 7th isn't a lesser asset. That's a mind boggling statement.

Tell that to Killian Hayes.

Those picks are not worth what you think they are worth.

[brackdan70]

Yeah, I'm sure teams are lining up to offer Detroit high lottery picks for Sasser

I am sure Detroit is excited about trading a 2nd year high upside guard for a lesser asset

A pick that projects as 7th isn't a lesser asset. That's a mind boggling statement.

This draft is really weak imo. Spurs should hope it doesn’t convey until 2026. Who would really excite you this year at #7?