What would CP3 to the Magic look like?

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Re: What would CP3 to the Magic look like? 

Post#41 » by Magicman125 » Mon Feb 5, 2024 4:58 pm

Skybox wrote:
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that's more than fair assessment. Moody is certainly comparable or maybe even better than Harris today, but not by much. ORL makes the deal based on Moody becoming better in next few years (also up for extension-whereas Harris likely re-signs for less). GSW accepts a small drop-off in upside to get better overall. WCJ improves the team significantly and Harris fills the hole created by the deal.

I'd much rather ask for Podz, but I assume that's not on the table. What if we included Cole Anthony to provide proven scoring off the bench and fearlessness in big game situations? Cole's not the most efficient player or defender, but he would contribute immediately to GSW's bench scoring. He's a microwave scorer that can win some games when he's hot. Tell me this doesn't make both teams better next day...

ORL sends: Fultz, Wendell Carter, Cole Anthony (all young vets, on great or expiring (Fultz) deals, ready to contribute in some form)
GSW sends: Podzmieski, CP3, Trayce Jackson-Davis

Curry/Fultz/GPII....Fultz could definitely play next to Curry, Klay, Wiggins, Draymond or WCJ...if they go small and fast
Klay/Cole/Moody
Kuminga/Wiggins
Draymond/Saric
WCJ/Looney...WCJ, Draymond, Looney provides lots of combos depending on matchups.


Nah. Podz is much more of a fit on both sides of the court than Cole would be.

I wonder if there’s a 3-way with Atlanta that’s possible. Dubs could use WCJ, Moody is the kind of role guy fit you need alongside Trae in the backcourt in Atlanta and Murray seems the big PG that fits with Orlando’s big lineup. Seems picks, cap relief and talent mixed in to even it out could work.


Murray is my favorite among the "available" for ORL. The only guy out there that could IMPROVE ORL's fearsome backcourt defense while still scoring 20ppg. I don't care if he's a bit of a hard case. ORL might need some more of that. Matt Barnes with much greater skill...in that 3-way, ATL gets CP3 (non-guaranteed) and picks?

ATL sends: Dejounte Murray, AJ Griffin, Patty Mills
ATL gets: CP3(non-guaranteed), ORL 24 frp (top 5), DEN 25 frp, 2 srps

GSW sends: CP3, Trayce Jackson-Davis
GSW gets: WCJ, Patty Mills, Gary Harris

ORL sends: WCJ, Harris, ORL 24 frp (top 5), DEN 25 frp, 2 srps
ORL gets: Dejounte, Griffin, TJD

*maybe even some variation if ATL wanted to take a crack at a Wiggins revival for Deandre Hunter (GSW sacrifices upside for some certainty).


I think Atlanta would want more value back if they're also giving up Griffin, I know he's not in the rotation for them at the moment, but he showed enough last year to still have some value on a rookie contract. I like the construction though and think the value is fair on the ORL and GSW sides.
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Re: What would CP3 to the Magic look like? 

Post#42 » by Crazy-Canuck » Mon Feb 5, 2024 5:03 pm

Skybox wrote:
NW wrote:
Skybox wrote:
that's more than fair assessment. Moody is certainly comparable or maybe even better than Harris today, but not by much. ORL makes the deal based on Moody becoming better in next few years (also up for extension-whereas Harris likely re-signs for less). GSW accepts a small drop-off in upside to get better overall. WCJ improves the team significantly and Harris fills the hole created by the deal.

I'd much rather ask for Podz, but I assume that's not on the table. What if we included Cole Anthony to provide proven scoring off the bench and fearlessness in big game situations? Cole's not the most efficient player or defender, but he would contribute immediately to GSW's bench scoring. He's a microwave scorer that can win some games when he's hot. Tell me this doesn't make both teams better next day...

ORL sends: Fultz, Wendell Carter, Cole Anthony (all young vets, on great or expiring (Fultz) deals, ready to contribute in some form)
GSW sends: Podzmieski, CP3, Trayce Jackson-Davis

Curry/Fultz/GPII....Fultz could definitely play next to Curry, Klay, Wiggins, Draymond or WCJ...if they go small and fast
Klay/Cole/Moody
Kuminga/Wiggins
Draymond/Saric
WCJ/Looney...WCJ, Draymond, Looney provides lots of combos depending on matchups.


Nah. Podz is much more of a fit on both sides of the court than Cole would be.

I wonder if there’s a 3-way with Atlanta that’s possible. Dubs could use WCJ, Moody is the kind of role guy fit you need alongside Trae in the backcourt in Atlanta and Murray seems the big PG that fits with Orlando’s big lineup. Seems picks, cap relief and talent mixed in to even it out could work.


Murray is my favorite among the "available" for ORL. The only guy out there that could IMPROVE ORL's fearsome backcourt defense while still scoring 20ppg. I don't care if he's a bit of a hard case. ORL might need some more of that. Matt Barnes with much greater skill...in that 3-way, ATL gets CP3 (non-guaranteed) and picks?

ATL sends: Dejounte Murray, AJ Griffin, Patty Mills
ATL gets: CP3(non-guaranteed), ORL 24 frp (top 5), DEN 25 frp, 2 srps

GSW sends: CP3, Trayce Jackson-Davis
GSW gets: WCJ, Patty Mills, Gary Harris

ORL sends: WCJ, Harris, ORL 24 frp (top 5), DEN 25 frp, 2 srps
ORL gets: Dejounte, Griffin, TJD

*maybe even some variation if ATL wanted to take a crack at a Wiggins revival for Deandre Hunter (GSW sacrifices upside for some certainty).


Warriors would just cut the magic and take djm for themselves.
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Re: What would CP3 to the Magic look like? 

Post#43 » by Skybox » Mon Feb 5, 2024 5:04 pm

Magicman125 wrote:
Skybox wrote:
NW wrote:
Nah. Podz is much more of a fit on both sides of the court than Cole would be.

I wonder if there’s a 3-way with Atlanta that’s possible. Dubs could use WCJ, Moody is the kind of role guy fit you need alongside Trae in the backcourt in Atlanta and Murray seems the big PG that fits with Orlando’s big lineup. Seems picks, cap relief and talent mixed in to even it out could work.


Murray is my favorite among the "available" for ORL. The only guy out there that could IMPROVE ORL's fearsome backcourt defense while still scoring 20ppg. I don't care if he's a bit of a hard case. ORL might need some more of that. Matt Barnes with much greater skill...in that 3-way, ATL gets CP3 (non-guaranteed) and picks?

ATL sends: Dejounte Murray, AJ Griffin, Patty Mills
ATL gets: CP3(non-guaranteed), ORL 24 frp (top 5), DEN 25 frp, 2 srps

GSW sends: CP3, Trayce Jackson-Davis
GSW gets: WCJ, Patty Mills, Gary Harris

ORL sends: WCJ, Harris, ORL 24 frp (top 5), DEN 25 frp, 2 srps
ORL gets: Dejounte, Griffin, TJD

*maybe even some variation if ATL wanted to take a crack at a Wiggins revival for Deandre Hunter (GSW sacrifices upside for some certainty).


I think Atlanta would want more value back if they're also giving up Griffin, I know he's not in the rotation for them at the moment, but he showed enough last year to still have some value on a rookie contract. I like the construction though and think the value is fair on the ORL and GSW sides.


yeah, I was hoping they wouldn't notice I included AJG :lol: He's out of the rotation and I'd love to get him back with Paolo-knocking down all of the spot up 3's he wants. Honestly, I'd probably include another protected frp instead of the srps...or, preferably, send them ALL of our srps for eternity...I think ATL would really like Black, but I'd rather shower them with draft equity. Jett would be the other "prospect" I guess, but I really do think he's going to be something.
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Re: What would CP3 to the Magic look like? 

Post#44 » by Magicman125 » Mon Feb 5, 2024 5:21 pm

Skybox wrote:
Magicman125 wrote:
Skybox wrote:
Murray is my favorite among the "available" for ORL. The only guy out there that could IMPROVE ORL's fearsome backcourt defense while still scoring 20ppg. I don't care if he's a bit of a hard case. ORL might need some more of that. Matt Barnes with much greater skill...in that 3-way, ATL gets CP3 (non-guaranteed) and picks?

ATL sends: Dejounte Murray, AJ Griffin, Patty Mills
ATL gets: CP3(non-guaranteed), ORL 24 frp (top 5), DEN 25 frp, 2 srps

GSW sends: CP3, Trayce Jackson-Davis
GSW gets: WCJ, Patty Mills, Gary Harris

ORL sends: WCJ, Harris, ORL 24 frp (top 5), DEN 25 frp, 2 srps
ORL gets: Dejounte, Griffin, TJD

*maybe even some variation if ATL wanted to take a crack at a Wiggins revival for Deandre Hunter (GSW sacrifices upside for some certainty).


I think Atlanta would want more value back if they're also giving up Griffin, I know he's not in the rotation for them at the moment, but he showed enough last year to still have some value on a rookie contract. I like the construction though and think the value is fair on the ORL and GSW sides.


yeah, I was hoping they wouldn't notice I included AJG :lol: He's out of the rotation and I'd love to get him back with Paolo-knocking down all of the spot up 3's he wants. Honestly, I'd probably include another protected frp instead of the srps...or, preferably, send them ALL of our srps for eternity...I think ATL would really like Black, but I'd rather shower them with draft equity. Jett would be the other "prospect" I guess, but I really do think he's going to be something.


Also, do ATL have the ability to send 3 guys out and only take one back roster wise? Might have to route some small contracts just to fill the roster spots for them. Perhaps instead of converting the 2nds into another protected 1st we could include Caleb Houstan as Griffin would be basically filling the role he and Harris (when healthy) play for ORL.

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