Buyout/Free Agent Thread, 2023-24

[Parliament10]

That's the problem, you can't trust Queta in the playoffs.

Blocking shots is not a problem for the Cs because the Jays and both White and Jrue are blocking a lot of shots this season.

So Drummond doesn't have to be a shot-blocker with the Cs.

What Drummond brings to the table for the Cs is an extra big body who can get rebounds and hold his own in the low post.

KP and Kornet are just not strong enough in the low post.

In Queta's defense, he has been limiting the Fouls of late. Still a lot of time for him in the regular Season.
I think that we're better off with Queta and his 6 Fouls, long before Drummond could even stay on the Court?

It's too big of a risk as the playoffs will be totally different from the regular season.

Drummond has playoff experience with several teams.

The good thing about Drummond is he has no long term effect on the cap situation of the Cs and you only play him if he's needed.
Drummond will not get regular minutes and that's totally fine.

I just don't trust Queta for the playoffs.

I hear ya. Queta is only a 4th Center, though. Drummond, ahhh . . . I cringe at the whole Hack-A-Drummond thing.
And, I just don't think that he could be an effective 3rd Center, in the Playoffs.

I'm all for the longer-term aspect of it, too. Drummond is a long-term: No-No.
Queta, on the other hand, has much more upside.

[Fierce1]

In Queta's defense, he has been limiting the Fouls of late. Still a lot of time for him in the regular Season.
I think that we're better off with Queta and his 6 Fouls, long before Drummond could even stay on the Court?

It's too big of a risk as the playoffs will be totally different from the regular season.

Drummond has playoff experience with several teams.

The good thing about Drummond is he has no long term effect on the cap situation of the Cs and you only play him if he's needed.
Drummond will not get regular minutes and that's totally fine.

I just don't trust Queta for the playoffs.

I hear ya. Queta is only a 4th Center, though. Drummond, ahhh . . . I cringe at the whole Hack-A-Drummond thing.
And, I just don't think that he could be an effective 3rd Center, in the Playoffs.

I'm all for the longer-term aspect of it, too. Drummond is a long-term: No-No.
Queta, on the other hand, has much more upside.

Queta is the future.

Adding Drummond will not affect Queta's situation with the Cs as Drummond could just be a rental.

Also, Drummond will not be a 3rd Center in the playoffs.
He will only play if the Cs are facing Giannis, Embiid, or Jokic.

Kornet will be the 3rd Center as long as those 3 elite bigs are not the opponent of the Cs.

[Fierce1]

Drummond will be like what Joe Kleine was to MJ and Pippen.

[Hal14]

Let’s be realistic here. Queta won’t play much in the playoffs if Al and Horf are healthy. He would also be behind Kornet, and Kornet is as soft as you can get. We need an extra big for assurance. Drummond or biyombo would be fine vets. Could play valuable limited mins in the playoffs if we face a bigger team.

Drummond would get run off the court in the playoffs. Sure, he can rebound, but every team knows to play hack a Drummond until he has to be taken out. At least Queta can make more of his FT's. Drummond FT % is 55% this year, Queta's is 75%. Not saying Queta would get any time during the playoffs, but as a fourth big, he would be a slightly better rim protector than Drummond is this year. Queta has 1/2 as many blocks (14 in 269 minutes) as Drummond (29 in 761 minutes) in a 1/3 of the minutes. If he could just learn to do it without fouling so much.

That's the problem, you can't trust Queta in the playoffs.

Blocking shots is not a problem for the Cs because the Jays and both White and Jrue are blocking a lot of shots this season.

So Drummond doesn't have to be a shot-blocker with the Cs.

What Drummond brings to the table for the Cs is an extra big body who can get rebounds and hold his own in the low post.

KP and Kornet are just not strong enough in the low post.

[165bows]

Wiggins to the Suns

Saric, Bates-Diop and 4-5 future seconds to Boston

Kuzma and Grayson Allen to GSW

Moody, Boston 2024 first and contracts (Watanabe, Little, Eubanks, Joseph) to Washington.

[Fierce1]

Drummond would get run off the court in the playoffs. Sure, he can rebound, but every team knows to play hack a Drummond until he has to be taken out. At least Queta can make more of his FT's. Drummond FT % is 55% this year, Queta's is 75%. Not saying Queta would get any time during the playoffs, but as a fourth big, he would be a slightly better rim protector than Drummond is this year. Queta has 1/2 as many blocks (14 in 269 minutes) as Drummond (29 in 761 minutes) in a 1/3 of the minutes. If he could just learn to do it without fouling so much.

That's the problem, you can't trust Queta in the playoffs.

Blocking shots is not a problem for the Cs because the Jays and both White and Jrue are blocking a lot of shots this season.

So Drummond doesn't have to be a shot-blocker with the Cs.

What Drummond brings to the table for the Cs is an extra big body who can get rebounds and hold his own in the low post.

KP and Kornet are just not strong enough in the low post.

Stats will not show how Kornet gets pushed around inside the paint.

Yes, Kornet is the better player and better shot-blocker than Drummond, but that will not be the case if Kornet plays Giannis, Embiid, and Jokic.

Like I said, the Cs will only need Drummond for 3 teams, Bucks, Nuggets, and Philly with Embiid.

Celts will be fine with Kornet against the other 27 teams.

[CelticsPride18]

That's the problem, you can't trust Queta in the playoffs.

Blocking shots is not a problem for the Cs because the Jays and both White and Jrue are blocking a lot of shots this season.

So Drummond doesn't have to be a shot-blocker with the Cs.

What Drummond brings to the table for the Cs is an extra big body who can get rebounds and hold his own in the low post.

KP and Kornet are just not strong enough in the low post.

Stats will not show how Kornet gets pushed around inside the paint.

Yes, Kornet is the better player and better shot-blocker than Drummond, but that will not be the case if Kornet plays Giannis, Embiid, and Jokic.

Like I said, the Cs will only need Drummond for 3 teams, Bucks, Nuggets, and Philly with Embiid.

Celts will be fine with Kornet against the other 27 teams.

Drummond stinks vs those teams as well.

[RickyDizzle]

Wiggins to the Suns

Saric, Bates-Diop and 4-5 future seconds to Boston

Kuzma and Grayson Allen to GSW

Moody, Boston 2024 first and contracts (Watanabe, Little, Eubanks, Joseph) to Washington.

How come we give up the first when we get the lesser players and the Warriors turn Wiggins into Kuzma and Allen. Seems like a home run for the Warriors.

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Wiggins to the Suns

Saric, Bates-Diop and 4-5 future seconds to Boston

Kuzma and Grayson Allen to GSW

Moody, Boston 2024 first and contracts (Watanabe, Little, Eubanks, Joseph) to Washington.

How come we give up the first when we get the lesser players and the Warriors turn Wiggins into Kuzma and Allen. Seems like a home run for the Warriors.

It's a home run for everybody. Brad gets the 4-5 future second rounders he was going to trade that first round pick for anyways plus a couple depth guys for the bench, one who could be a quality bench big for a few years if they can retain him.

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Kind of cute how a whole bunch of teams want to make moves but are waiting until the last second when everyone gets a little desperate about it.

[zoyathedestroya]

All I want is top 3 player Tatum in the playoffs so none of these deadline additions/buyout guys would even matter.

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Brad, he is your next project.

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In all honesty, the probably do have enough. They could win a title without any changes. Its tough to upgrade a team who has a solid top 8 the way the C's do, especially considering the limited salary flexibility they have in terms of tradable contracts. I'm sure they'll try anyway.

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If they don’t make a real trade, I could see some draft and stashes at the draft in June.

Seems like a few guys in the late first and early second that could be worth stashing (particularly Comche but also Melvin Ajinca, Zvonimir Ivisic (not really a classic stash guy as a Euro in college but maybe more a two-way)).

[Shak_Celts]

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I hope brad doesn’t listen.

[Parliament10]

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In all honesty, the probably do have enough. They could win a title without any changes. Its tough to upgrade a team who has a solid top 8 the way the C's do, especially considering the limited salary flexibility they have in terms of tradable contracts. I'm sure they'll try anyway.

Yeah. I don't think that we make any changes, outside of Converting Queta.
But, I do have a Question. Why did we sign these Reserves, if we're not using them; save for Brissett (occasionally)?

Banton - Mykhailiuk - Brissett - Stevens

[Parliament10]

Wiggins to the Suns

Saric, Bates-Diop and 4-5 future seconds to Boston

Kuzma and Grayson Allen to GSW

Moody, Boston 2024 first and contracts (Watanabe, Little, Eubanks, Joseph) to Washington.

How come we give up the first when we get the lesser players and the Warriors turn Wiggins into Kuzma and Allen. Seems like a home run for the Warriors.

It's a home run for everybody. Brad gets the 4-5 future second rounders he was going to trade that first round pick for anyways plus a couple depth guys for the bench, one who could be a quality bench big for a few years if they can retain him.

I can definitely see Brad Trading that 30th Pick, for several 2nd Rounders.