Reed Sheppard and Rob Dillingham - 2024 NBA Draft

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Re: Reed Sheppard and Rob Dillingham - 2024 NBA Draft 

Post#241 » by Hal14 » Sat Feb 3, 2024 3:29 pm

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Reed is literally taller


yea looks taller but this is a terrible indictment on Reed considering that Dilly is probably no taller than 6-0 lol

Rob is either 6'1" or 6'2" imo. But we'll find out for sure when these guys all get measured at the combine so the dozens of pages we spend speculating about heights on here is kind of pointless..
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Re: Reed Sheppard and Rob Dillingham - 2024 NBA Draft 

Post#242 » by FarBeyondDriven » Sun Feb 4, 2024 9:53 am

Dillingham is an electrifying scorer. Sadly, another loss because they cannot defend. Guys blowing by them, shooting over them and they pick up cheap fouls. It's going to limit their roles in the NBA. I'm still drafting them in the late 1st despite that. There's enough there where you can be confident they'll help your team and raise the talent level should you draft them. Pretty good draft class if both these guys are going late 1st.
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Re: Reed Sheppard and Rob Dillingham - 2024 NBA Draft 

Post#243 » by EvanZ » Mon Feb 5, 2024 9:34 pm

Maybe Dilly is the real #1.
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Post#244 » by MemphisX » Tue Feb 6, 2024 1:30 am

EvanZ wrote:Maybe Dilly is the real #1.



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Post#245 » by MemphisX » Wed Feb 7, 2024 4:03 am

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Post#246 » by FarBeyondDriven » Wed Feb 7, 2024 5:06 am

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if only the NBA was full of teams like Vanderbilt.
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Post#247 » by Upperclass » Wed Feb 7, 2024 5:12 am

Small, scoring PG with no PG skills and lacking elite athleticism and length.. going#1 would be a stretch. I dont think he sticks in the league beyond his first contract.. Not sure how he contributes to NBA teams better than some other fringe small guards like Bones Hyland
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Post#248 » by MemphisX » Wed Feb 7, 2024 5:49 am

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if only the NBA was full of teams like Vanderbilt.



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Re: Reed Sheppard and Rob Dillingham - 2024 NBA Draft 

Post#249 » by FarBeyondDriven » Wed Feb 7, 2024 5:58 am

Upperclass wrote:Small, scoring PG with no PG skills and lacking elite athleticism and length.. going#1 would be a stretch. I dont think he sticks in the league beyond his first contract.. Not sure how he contributes to NBA teams better than some other fringe small guards like Bones Hyland


He's not a potential PG like Sheppard is but he can pass and he is one of the quickest players ever with above the rim hops so I think he actually does have pretty elite athleticism. I see him being a Cam Thomas or Sexton type that can be offense for an offensively challenged team or if he's on a good team, a spot starter but mostly 2nd unit bucket getter. But you'll have to live with his bad defense like teams have to with Sexton and Thomas. There is definitely a role for him. Just have to figure out where he should go in the draft.

Sheppard has PG skills and BBIQ but he's very athletically challenged. There's a chance he could be a starting PG imo but most likely he'll be a 2nd unit lead guard. But that small chance has me giving him the edge as a prospect though I waffle between which of these two should go before the other and how late in the first I'd take them. It's still early days. Tournament and combine will help address a lot of concerns.
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Re: Reed Sheppard and Rob Dillingham - 2024 NBA Draft 

Post#250 » by The-Power » Wed Feb 7, 2024 1:39 pm

Upperclass wrote:Small, scoring PG with no PG skills and lacking elite athleticism and length.. going#1 would be a stretch. I dont think he sticks in the league beyond his first contract.. Not sure how he contributes to NBA teams better than some other fringe small guards like Bones Hyland

I understand the concerns with him but there is something to be said about his elite production. He scores a ton, he scores efficiently, and he creates for others. The size is an obvious concern when it comes to projecting him but his statistical profile is different from a lot of the small fringe-NBA Guards.
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Re: Reed Sheppard and Rob Dillingham - 2024 NBA Draft 

Post#251 » by JMAC3 » Wed Feb 7, 2024 3:51 pm

Is Malik Monk a bad comp for Dillingham?

Monk definitely has value in the league today, but a lot of his issues are easy to see being the same issues for Rob. Smaller frame, not really a defined position, probably a negative defender. However, can get hot and straight win games for you and carry 2nd units.

If you think he is that then traditionally that is a solid bet of a pick in the 8-14 range. Probably hard to take a guy top 7 that presents a lot of roster construction issues from day 1.
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Post#252 » by ItsDanger » Wed Feb 7, 2024 6:23 pm

I would never use a late lottery pick to draft a backup PG. That's a waste. Trade your pick or acquire a backup another way.
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Re: Reed Sheppard and Rob Dillingham - 2024 NBA Draft 

Post#253 » by clyde21 » Wed Feb 7, 2024 6:48 pm

ItsDanger wrote:I would never use a late lottery pick to draft a backup PG. That's a waste. Trade your pick or acquire a backup another way.


we're running out of players we can put in the lotto at this point fellas.
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Re: Reed Sheppard and Rob Dillingham - 2024 NBA Draft 

Post#254 » by SeattleJazzFan » Wed Feb 7, 2024 7:45 pm

JMAC3 wrote:Is Malik Monk a bad comp for Dillingham?

Monk definitely has value in the league today, but a lot of his issues are easy to see being the same issues for Rob. Smaller frame, not really a defined position, probably a negative defender. However, can get hot and straight win games for you and carry 2nd units.

If you think he is that then traditionally that is a solid bet of a pick in the 8-14 range. Probably hard to take a guy top 7 that presents a lot of roster construction issues from day 1.


imo, dillingham is a more skilled overall player, but monk is bigger and a much more explosive vertical athlete.

i'm not sure you can draft him top 10 due to his lack of size/length, but he might be too good to let slip much further.

(edit)without reading your full post (stopped at the monk comparison initially) i basically just echoed what you said. i guess i agree
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Re: Reed Sheppard and Rob Dillingham - 2024 NBA Draft 

Post#255 » by EvanZ » Wed Feb 7, 2024 7:52 pm

Dilly is in the mix for #1 for me.
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Post#256 » by Dat2U » Wed Feb 7, 2024 10:26 pm

Dilly skill wise is that dude. You want him on the ball but he's certainly skilled enough and shoots well enough to play off of it. I love his aggression. I know he'll be a +20 ppg scorer in the league on solid efficiency and usage. My concerns are solely with teams consistently targeting him defensively. He's going to have to get stronger and improve his effort level. No worse than late lottery for me. Maybe higher by the day of the draft.
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Re: Reed Sheppard and Rob Dillingham - 2024 NBA Draft 

Post#257 » by HadAnEffectHere » Fri Feb 9, 2024 12:02 am

My huge concern with Dillingham (besides his size) is that he was a ~30% 3P% shooter in high school and OTE and now he's shooting 43% from three.

If he regresses back to a Jordan Clarkson tier shooter instead of a Steph Curry tier shooter, he's just not valuable.
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Re: Reed Sheppard and Rob Dillingham - 2024 NBA Draft 

Post#258 » by CptCrunch » Fri Feb 9, 2024 12:24 am

HadAnEffectHere wrote:My huge concern with Dillingham (besides his size) is that he was a ~30% 3P% shooter in high school and OTE and now he's shooting 43% from three.

If he regresses back to a Jordan Clarkson tier shooter instead of a Steph Curry tier shooter, he's just not valuable.


Dilly's FT isn't good, so I don't buy that 3 point shot either. Need to be a Luka like player to suck at FT, but good at 3 pointer. Could happen, but an atypical outcome.
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Re: Reed Sheppard and Rob Dillingham - 2024 NBA Draft 

Post#259 » by Jamaaliver » Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:46 pm

Is this comp as insane as it seems at firs glance?

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Re: Reed Sheppard and Rob Dillingham - 2024 NBA Draft 

Post#260 » by HadAnEffectHere » Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:46 pm

From measurements and stats, Trae is a reasonable comparison.

The issue is that 80% of Trae Young is a guy who is playing in China after 4 years and it's not clear Dillingham is good enough at shooting to be close to 100% of Trae Young. Dillingham also hasn't been nearly as good at getting to the line. So if you have a 33% three point shooting Trae Young who is just average at getting to the line... That guy just sucks actually, lol.

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