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Re: Woj: Kupchak Out 

Post#21 » by Jstock12 » Mon Feb 12, 2024 5:25 pm

MessiahUjiri wrote:I feel like Charlotte is a useless NBA team. They’re never interesting.

Maybe the new ownership and management will change that.

They're the Raptors before the Masai era.
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Post#22 » by brownbobcat » Mon Feb 12, 2024 5:29 pm

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bluerap23 wrote:He's really been their only competent executive. Drafted LaMelo, Miller, Bridges (not sure if there were character flags out of college). Rozier and Hayward were pretty good acquisitions.

Competent? Those are 3 of many many squandered draft picks.

First off...in 2018 they owned the pick that would become SGA. They traded with the Clippers and took Miles Bridges instead. Hindsight...probably shouldn't have made that trade.

2019...they took PJ Washington who is no longer with the team. He is better than the rest of the guys taken after him except for Tyler Herro. But once again...former 1st round pick no longer with team.

2021...they Boucknight and he's been a bust and released. Also traded a protected 2024 first round pick to get Kai Jones who got released for complaining about playing time. I don't blame Kai one bit. I'm not sure he's a good player at all but on a trash team like Charlotte to be stuck on a bench when they playing older vets...nah...I'd be pissed too.

2022...they traded picks Jalen Duren for Mark Williams. Both are solid centers but Duren has been more impactful mostly because Mark Williams has been injured a lot more.

They hit on Ball, Bridges and Miller but have pissed away a lot of draft capital to find only 3 good players.

You're never going to hit on every single pick, though. They also didn't lose PJ Washington for nothing. Their biggest problem is that their best player is always hurt and their 2nd best player hits women.
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Post#23 » by C_Money » Mon Feb 12, 2024 5:45 pm

They actually looked like a pretty good team on paper but every one of those guys is injury prone. They basically never have a fully healthy roster.

Charlotte is my 2nd favourite team because of the teal jerseys lol
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Post#24 » by Mattatron » Mon Feb 12, 2024 6:09 pm

Elton Brand is a candidate ? Lmaoo. Bobby should be on a shortlist too...
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Post#25 » by TimeForChange » Mon Feb 12, 2024 6:15 pm

WaltFrazier wrote:Bobby headed there?

Excuse me?
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Post#26 » by DelAbbot » Mon Feb 12, 2024 6:39 pm

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WaltFrazier wrote:Bobby headed there?

Excuse me?

Get me a decaf, STAT!
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Post#27 » by FrozenLeafz » Mon Feb 12, 2024 6:53 pm

Passing the torch VC15--> CB4--> DD10+KL7--> PS43+FVV23 --> SB4
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Post#28 » by MiamiSPX » Mon Feb 12, 2024 7:46 pm

IMO, Riley retiring is the one that should worry those who want Masai to stay forever.
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Post#29 » by Pointgod » Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:01 pm

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Pointgod wrote:As a Lakers fan I had to put up with years of this dude’s incompetence and uncreative management. He inherited a championship dynasty and drove it into the ground only saved by the fact Kobe was on the roster. I’m surprised he got the Charlotte job and I’m not surprised he’s been canned. Dude sucks as a GM. Nice guy though.


Didn't he pull off the Gasol heist? Would have been 3 more rings if not for Bynum's injury.


I’m convinced that Gasol trade was more Memphis’ stupidity than Kupchak’s genius. His back up plan if Gasol had fallen through was Ben Wallace….Detroit Wallace mind you. Chicago Ben Wallace.
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Post#30 » by Reeko » Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:09 pm

MiamiSPX wrote:IMO, Riley retiring is the one that should worry those who want Masai to stay forever.

Riley is what's special about Miami though, if he's gone then I'm not sure who in that Heat org is supposed to woo Masai away.
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Post#31 » by billy_hoyle » Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:20 pm

Reeko wrote:
MiamiSPX wrote:IMO, Riley retiring is the one that should worry those who want Masai to stay forever.

Riley is what's special about Miami though, if he's gone then I'm not sure who in that Heat org is supposed to woo Masai away.

I'd imagine the weather, and the incredible free agent advantage that comes with it.
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Post#32 » by billy_hoyle » Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:24 pm

brownbobcat wrote:
mtcan wrote:
bluerap23 wrote:He's really been their only competent executive. Drafted LaMelo, Miller, Bridges (not sure if there were character flags out of college). Rozier and Hayward were pretty good acquisitions.

Competent? Those are 3 of many many squandered draft picks.

First off...in 2018 they owned the pick that would become SGA. They traded with the Clippers and took Miles Bridges instead. Hindsight...probably shouldn't have made that trade.

2019...they took PJ Washington who is no longer with the team. He is better than the rest of the guys taken after him except for Tyler Herro. But once again...former 1st round pick no longer with team.

2021...they Boucknight and he's been a bust and released. Also traded a protected 2024 first round pick to get Kai Jones who got released for complaining about playing time. I don't blame Kai one bit. I'm not sure he's a good player at all but on a trash team like Charlotte to be stuck on a bench when they playing older vets...nah...I'd be pissed too.

2022...they traded picks Jalen Duren for Mark Williams. Both are solid centers but Duren has been more impactful mostly because Mark Williams has been injured a lot more.

They hit on Ball, Bridges and Miller but have pissed away a lot of draft capital to find only 3 good players.

You're never going to hit on every single pick, though. They also didn't lose PJ Washington for nothing. Their biggest problem is that their best player is always hurt and their 2nd best player hits women.


You've mapped out a pretty decent draft record in Charlotte.

They have 3 building blocks (Ball, Miller and Williams). Bridges would be good too if he wasn't an idiot in his personal life.

They rolled over the PJ and Rozier assets for future picks. I think they've been snake bit by injuries, but on the whole I kinda liked what they've done. If they hit on this pick... Now they're cooking IMO.
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Post#33 » by MiamiSPX » Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:03 am

billy_hoyle wrote:
Reeko wrote:
MiamiSPX wrote:IMO, Riley retiring is the one that should worry those who want Masai to stay forever.

Riley is what's special about Miami though, if he's gone then I'm not sure who in that Heat org is supposed to woo Masai away.

I'd imagine the weather, and the incredible free agent advantage that comes with it.


- He and his wife have a house in Miami.
- No state income tax (FO staff don't pay the "jock tax" so that 15M USD is definitely going to go a hell of a lot farther).
- One of the best coaches in the league is cemented in place.
- Singular owner who doesn't meddle.
- Will never deal with a player not wanting to be traded here.

It will be one of the most coveted positions once Riley calls it quits, and I daresay Masai will be near the top of the list.
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Post#34 » by Merit » Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:29 am

MiamiSPX wrote:
billy_hoyle wrote:
Reeko wrote:Riley is what's special about Miami though, if he's gone then I'm not sure who in that Heat org is supposed to woo Masai away.

I'd imagine the weather, and the incredible free agent advantage that comes with it.


- He and his wife have a house in Miami.
- No state income tax (FO staff don't pay the "jock tax" so that 15M USD is definitely going to go a hell of a lot farther).
- One of the best coaches in the league is cemented in place.
- Singular owner who doesn't meddle.
- Will never deal with a player not wanting to be traded here.

It will be one of the most coveted positions once Riley calls it quits, and I daresay Masai will be near the top of the list.


I hear you and your points are valid. I think Masai has too much Canadian cachet and would have his pick of options in other domains, not only the Heat position. NBA Africa? Masai can run it. Masai for Prime Minister? I can see that too.
I believe in Masai.
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Re: Woj: Kupchak Out 

Post#35 » by Reeko » Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:00 am

MiamiSPX wrote:
billy_hoyle wrote:
Reeko wrote:Riley is what's special about Miami though, if he's gone then I'm not sure who in that Heat org is supposed to woo Masai away.

I'd imagine the weather, and the incredible free agent advantage that comes with it.


- He and his wife have a house in Miami.
- No state income tax (FO staff don't pay the "jock tax" so that 15M USD is definitely going to go a hell of a lot farther).
- One of the best coaches in the league is cemented in place.
- Singular owner who doesn't meddle.
- Will never deal with a player not wanting to be traded here.

It will be one of the most coveted positions once Riley calls it quits, and I daresay Masai will be near the top of the list.

The job will probably go to Udonis Haslem.
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Post#36 » by GreatWhiteStiff » Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:03 am

DelAbbot wrote:
TimeForChange wrote:
WaltFrazier wrote:Bobby headed there?

Excuse me?

Get me a decaf, STAT!


We need a REALGM who won't trade picks for over the hill Canadians. You ready, Del?
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Post#37 » by Reeko » Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:13 am

GreatWhiteStiff wrote:
DelAbbot wrote:
TimeForChange wrote:Excuse me?

Get me a decaf, STAT!


We need a REALGM who won't trade picks for over the hill Canadians. You ready, Del?

If Del is our GM the Raptors are going to look like the movie Fury.
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