Kyle Kuzma On Staying With Wizards: I Wanted To Stay And To Build Something

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Re: Kyle Kuzma On Staying With Wizards: I Wanted To Stay And To Build Something 

Post#21 » by TheBallsDeeper » Wed Feb 14, 2024 8:45 pm

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I came here to say this is definitely went to Dallas beautiful women and great weather

35.5% of Texas women are considered obese compared to 24.3 in DC. Dallas is better if you like fat chicks.


So it's perfectly ok with you to insult people who are overweight? I'll say that I'm like Sir Mix-a-lot!


Yep - obese people have themselves to blame, and they teach their kids that obesity is ok also. These fatties should be called out. The rest of the world can't believe the gluttony in the US.
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Re: Kyle Kuzma On Staying With Wizards: I Wanted To Stay And To Build Something 

Post#22 » by basketballwacko2 » Thu Feb 15, 2024 5:44 am

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TheBallsDeeper wrote:35.5% of Texas women are considered obese compared to 24.3 in DC. Dallas is better if you like fat chicks.


So it's perfectly ok with you to insult people who are overweight? I'll say that I'm like Sir Mix-a-lot!


Yep - obese people have themselves to blame, and they teach their kids that obesity is ok also. These fatties should be called out. The rest of the world can't believe the gluttony in the US.

Sure they do that just like the medical profession telling us that it's the fault of Drug addicts and Alcoholics for being junkies and drunks, right? Oh wait a minute they say that is a disease don't they.

When I was young I was a kick boxer, about 12 years ago I broke my leg and cracked my hip in an accident. Everything you can think of went wrong over the next few years and I gained about 200 lbs topped out at 440. Not being able to walk for a year and only able to hobble after that for 2-3 year, in addition to multiple health issues that I'm sure you've never heard off, such as "Metabolic Syndrome" and a number of hormonal imbalances contributed to that incredible weight gain. But I got it under control with out bariatric surgery and lost 200 lbs, got a hip replacement and now I'm at the same weight I was at 25 when I fought at Heavyweight 225lbs. And at 60 I'm still lethal. But in your ignorance you would not know any of that if you'd seen me in 2014. You would have opened your ignorant mouth and said something that would have gotten you in a lot of trouble.
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Re: Kyle Kuzma On Staying With Wizards: I Wanted To Stay And To Build Something 

Post#23 » by CobraCommander » Thu Feb 15, 2024 2:05 pm

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nedleeds wrote:Build that bank account!

Build generational wealth like Howard, Gil, Wall and Beal...

Honestly if you a fringe Allstar on a bad team but would be a friends starter on a contender, the wiz will make you one of the highest paiD guys on earth ....

Kuz. Get rich

He's locked in for the next 4 years. Money has nothing to do with it. He was a 4th option to Lebron in LAL. He knows what that was like. Why sign up to be the 4th option to Luka in DAL? He'd rather be the biggest fish in the smallest pond than to jump back into the ocean.

You act like this is Kuz last contract -

People tend to stay in Washington and get their biggest possible payout and Dallas pretty much doesn’t pay anyone but Luka and kinda Kyrie -

People are not lining up to play for Lebron or Cuban- and I mean FOR Lebron or Cuban

Plus think of this if you Kuz- if you go to Dallas and they win - it’s Luka and Kyries championship

If they lose it’s Kuz fault- no reason to go there if there is no glory in success and no contract upside Kuz already did that dance with the lakers
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Re: Kyle Kuzma On Staying With Wizards: I Wanted To Stay And To Build Something 

Post#24 » by Pickled Prunes » Thu Feb 15, 2024 7:38 pm

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CobraCommander wrote:Build generational wealth like Howard, Gil, Wall and Beal...

Honestly if you a fringe Allstar on a bad team but would be a friends starter on a contender, the wiz will make you one of the highest paiD guys on earth ....

Kuz. Get rich

He's locked in for the next 4 years. Money has nothing to do with it. He was a 4th option to Lebron in LAL. He knows what that was like. Why sign up to be the 4th option to Luka in DAL? He'd rather be the biggest fish in the smallest pond than to jump back into the ocean.

You act like this is Kuz last contract -

People tend to stay in Washington and get their biggest possible payout and Dallas pretty much doesn’t pay anyone but Luka and kinda Kyrie -

People are not lining up to play for Lebron or Cuban- and I mean FOR Lebron or Cuban

Plus think of this if you Kuz- if you go to Dallas and they win - it’s Luka and Kyries championship

If they lose it’s Kuz fault- no reason to go there if there is no glory in success and no contract upside Kuz already did that dance with the lakers

We can revisit this if WAS gives Kuzma a raise in three years. I don't think they will and it's unlikely he will still be there. They can say what they will, but there is no way they view Kuzma as a max player or as a cornerstone of their franchise. You don't build around a guy like Kuzma; he is an ancillary piece at best. He's on a descending deal that gets more team-friendly each year. And he'll be 32 at the end of this deal, so while his trade value will go up each year, his value on the court will go down.

The bottom line is that he'll almost certainly be somewhere else by the end of this contract. You are right about DAL not paying anyone, but that's 3+ years down the road and they likely would have moved him by then as well. But if he did stay in DAL he would be a lock for having a winning record for the next three seasons. If he becomes a free agent in 2027, he will get paid more for having a winning record and a few deep playoff runs in DAL than he will as tank commander in WAS.

No, this was not about money. It was a decision based on quality of life. He is enjoying his current job.
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Re: Kyle Kuzma On Staying With Wizards: I Wanted To Stay And To Build Something 

Post#25 » by CobraCommander » Thu Feb 15, 2024 8:07 pm

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Pickled Prunes wrote:He's locked in for the next 4 years. Money has nothing to do with it. He was a 4th option to Lebron in LAL. He knows what that was like. Why sign up to be the 4th option to Luka in DAL? He'd rather be the biggest fish in the smallest pond than to jump back into the ocean.

You act like this is Kuz last contract -

People tend to stay in Washington and get their biggest possible payout and Dallas pretty much doesn’t pay anyone but Luka and kinda Kyrie -

People are not lining up to play for Lebron or Cuban- and I mean FOR Lebron or Cuban

Plus think of this if you Kuz- if you go to Dallas and they win - it’s Luka and Kyries championship

If they lose it’s Kuz fault- no reason to go there if there is no glory in success and no contract upside Kuz already did that dance with the lakers

We can revisit this if WAS gives Kuzma a raise in three years. I don't think they will and it's unlikely he will still be there. They can say what they will, but there is no way they view Kuzma as a max player or as a cornerstone of their franchise. You don't build around a guy like Kuzma; he is an ancillary piece at best. He's on a descending deal that gets more team-friendly each year. And he'll be 32 at the end of this deal, so while his trade value will go up each year, his value on the court will go down.

The bottom line is that he'll almost certainly be somewhere else by the end of this contract. You are right about DAL not paying anyone, but that's 3+ years down the road and they likely would have moved him by then as well. But if he did stay in DAL he would be a lock for having a winning record for the next three seasons. If he becomes a free agent in 2027, he will get paid more for having a winning record and a few deep playoff runs in DAL than he will as tank commander in WAS.

No, this was not about money. It was a decision based on quality of life. He is enjoying his current job.

You shouldn’t build around Beal or Wall or Gil or J-Howard etc but it’s the wiz… Beal and Wall and Gil had squads but they were never the caliber of player that is a franchise cornerstone
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Re: Kyle Kuzma On Staying With Wizards: I Wanted To Stay And To Build Something 

Post#26 » by Pickled Prunes » Thu Feb 15, 2024 10:38 pm

CobraCommander wrote:
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CobraCommander wrote:You act like this is Kuz last contract -

People tend to stay in Washington and get their biggest possible payout and Dallas pretty much doesn’t pay anyone but Luka and kinda Kyrie -

People are not lining up to play for Lebron or Cuban- and I mean FOR Lebron or Cuban

Plus think of this if you Kuz- if you go to Dallas and they win - it’s Luka and Kyries championship

If they lose it’s Kuz fault- no reason to go there if there is no glory in success and no contract upside Kuz already did that dance with the lakers

We can revisit this if WAS gives Kuzma a raise in three years. I don't think they will and it's unlikely he will still be there. They can say what they will, but there is no way they view Kuzma as a max player or as a cornerstone of their franchise. You don't build around a guy like Kuzma; he is an ancillary piece at best. He's on a descending deal that gets more team-friendly each year. And he'll be 32 at the end of this deal, so while his trade value will go up each year, his value on the court will go down.

The bottom line is that he'll almost certainly be somewhere else by the end of this contract. You are right about DAL not paying anyone, but that's 3+ years down the road and they likely would have moved him by then as well. But if he did stay in DAL he would be a lock for having a winning record for the next three seasons. If he becomes a free agent in 2027, he will get paid more for having a winning record and a few deep playoff runs in DAL than he will as tank commander in WAS.

No, this was not about money. It was a decision based on quality of life. He is enjoying his current job.

You shouldn’t build around Beal or Wall or Gil or J-Howard etc but it’s the wiz… Beal and Wall and Gil had squads but they were never the caliber of player that is a franchise cornerstone

That's true, more or less. That is particularly true of Beal who was in the typical "best player on a bad team" situation. But let's not put Kuzma even into that category. Juwan was an All-Star in his second season, with better numbers than Kuzma's best season. (WAS was also scoring 12 fewer PPG in 1996.) Arenas and Wall were both All-Stars with staying power if guns or injuries didn't get in the way. Beal is the least of these players, but is still too good to be mentioned with Kuzma. Kuzma is 4th or 5th starter on a championship caliber team. Possibly even a reserve. We know he wouldn't start on BOS or DEN.
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Re: Kyle Kuzma On Staying With Wizards: I Wanted To Stay And To Build Something 

Post#27 » by CobraCommander » Fri Feb 16, 2024 7:04 am

Pickled Prunes wrote:
CobraCommander wrote:
Pickled Prunes wrote:We can revisit this if WAS gives Kuzma a raise in three years. I don't think they will and it's unlikely he will still be there. They can say what they will, but there is no way they view Kuzma as a max player or as a cornerstone of their franchise. You don't build around a guy like Kuzma; he is an ancillary piece at best. He's on a descending deal that gets more team-friendly each year. And he'll be 32 at the end of this deal, so while his trade value will go up each year, his value on the court will go down.

The bottom line is that he'll almost certainly be somewhere else by the end of this contract. You are right about DAL not paying anyone, but that's 3+ years down the road and they likely would have moved him by then as well. But if he did stay in DAL he would be a lock for having a winning record for the next three seasons. If he becomes a free agent in 2027, he will get paid more for having a winning record and a few deep playoff runs in DAL than he will as tank commander in WAS.

No, this was not about money. It was a decision based on quality of life. He is enjoying his current job.

You shouldn’t build around Beal or Wall or Gil or J-Howard etc but it’s the wiz… Beal and Wall and Gil had squads but they were never the caliber of player that is a franchise cornerstone

That's true, more or less. That is particularly true of Beal who was in the typical "best player on a bad team" situation. But let's not put Kuzma even into that category. Juwan was an All-Star in his second season, with better numbers than Kuzma's best season. (WAS was also scoring 12 fewer PPG in 1996.) Arenas and Wall were both All-Stars with staying power if guns or injuries didn't get in the way. Beal is the least of these players, but is still too good to be mentioned with Kuzma. Kuzma is 4th or 5th starter on a championship caliber team. Possibly even a reserve. We know he wouldn't start on BOS or DEN.

So kuzma has a ring and now is playing for the run of it and the money in it. Going to Dallas he would have to defer - In dc he is playing Y level ball and getting meaningless W and Ls and no one cares.

He has the best job on earth if you don’t care about winning. Millions to play ball and not listen to coaches or fans - just play like he at open run at 24 hour fitness before the old folks play pickleball…

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