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Re: Shams: Brooklyn fire Jacque Vaughn 

Post#21 » by islandboy53 » Mon Feb 19, 2024 7:51 pm

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ash_k wrote:He should have been fired after the Sixers series as he showed his limitation there..he has always been a mediocre coach .
The Nets have the talent on both ends.
Anyway, hopefully Masai does not wait as long as Sean Marks to fire his coach


As noted above, Darko was hired to develop, and will have at least a couple of years to prove himself. We should expect to see growth in the team and the coach, as this season winds down, but especially next year.

You guys have access to his contract? (stating "this contract guarantees 2 years of employment regardless of the performance")
This ain't the G-League, he was not just hired to "develop"; many players (have) regressed under him.
If he keeps losing with a lineup made of IQ, RJ, Scottie, Yak, getting blown-out, he is going to lose the locker-room (if not already) then Masai will have no choice.


The trade deadline has finally passed. The team has replaced 3 opening night starters (OG, Siakam, Schroder), as well as Achiuwa, Thad and Porter. That's a massive change, and now we should be able to settle in and see what we have.

In terms of development to date, Barnes is coming along well and Gradey is rapidly becoming a valuable part of the rotation. RJ seems to be thriving in the system, and Quickley is showing flashes of what we need him to be. Agbaji and Nwora haven't been around long enough to comment on in terms of their progress. Poeltl and Olynyk aren't development pieces, but both are filling their roles well. The only player that has regressed in any sense is Trent jr, but even he hasn't regressed "massively". You could make a case that McDaniels has regressed as well, but I'm not sure there were big expectations for him. Boucher is still Boucher, he's just not getting any run with the young pieces that need time on the floor.

Finally, if you were paying attention at all when Darko was hired, you would have heard repeatedly that he, and the rest of the staff, were long on development, and that that was likely going to be his primary focus if things didn't pan out with the old "core". Let him do his job for a while, and get back to me at this time next year.
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Re: Shams: Brooklyn fire Jacque Vaughn 

Post#22 » by Loso04 » Mon Feb 19, 2024 8:24 pm

They were tired of the way his beard looked!!

In all seriousness, I looked at their roster a few weeks before the trade deadline and shook my head.
I remember lots of people in the media and some on this board being excited about what the Nets' got back from Phoenix.
As someone said earlier in the thread, Bridges is not a number one option. If this helps our tank, that's a bonus.
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Re: Shams: Brooklyn fire Jacque Vaughn 

Post#23 » by Chandan » Mon Feb 19, 2024 9:55 pm

the only thing i care about the nets is whether we can get claxton
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Re: Shams: Brooklyn fire Jacque Vaughn 

Post#24 » by anotherhomer » Mon Feb 19, 2024 10:01 pm

islandboy53 wrote:
ash_k wrote:
islandboy53 wrote:
As noted above, Darko was hired to develop, and will have at least a couple of years to prove himself. We should expect to see growth in the team and the coach, as this season winds down, but especially next year.

You guys have access to his contract? (stating "this contract guarantees 2 years of employment regardless of the performance")
This ain't the G-League, he was not just hired to "develop"; many players (have) regressed under him.
If he keeps losing with a lineup made of IQ, RJ, Scottie, Yak, getting blown-out, he is going to lose the locker-room (if not already) then Masai will have no choice.


The trade deadline has finally passed. The team has replaced 3 opening night starters (OG, Siakam, Schroder), as well as Achiuwa, Thad and Porter. That's a massive change, and now we should be able to settle in and see what we have.

In terms of development to date, Barnes is coming along well and Gradey is rapidly becoming a valuable part of the rotation. RJ seems to be thriving in the system, and Quickley is showing flashes of what we need him to be. Agbaji and Nwora haven't been around long enough to comment on in terms of their progress. Poeltl and Olynyk aren't development pieces, but both are filling their roles well. The only player that has regressed in any sense is Trent jr, but even he hasn't regressed "massively". You could make a case that McDaniels has regressed as well, but I'm not sure there were big expectations for him. Boucher is still Boucher, he's just not getting any run with the young pieces that need time on the floor.

Finally, if you were paying attention at all when Darko was hired, you would have heard repeatedly that he, and the rest of the staff, were long on development, and that that was likely going to be his primary focus if things didn't pan out with the old "core". Let him do his job for a while, and get back to me at this time next year.


agreed, Darko has now players he can work on developing right now
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Re: Shams: Brooklyn fire Jacque Vaughn 

Post#25 » by LoveMyRaps » Mon Feb 19, 2024 10:07 pm

Chandan wrote:the only thing i care about the nets is whether we can get claxton


Jalen Smith > Claxton
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Re: Shams: Brooklyn fire Jacque Vaughn 

Post#26 » by WaltFrazier » Mon Feb 19, 2024 10:25 pm

HiJiNX wrote:Their roster sucks. Not sure what they were expecting.


50 point loss to Boston was the last straw. And Bridges postgame in the locker room really threw Vaughn under the bus, saying they were unprepared, they have a scheme to play through Simmons but he's not there half the time, stuff along that line.



The bounce from a coach firing plus Dennis revenge game, doesn't look good for Raptors.
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Re: Shams: Brooklyn fire Jacque Vaughn 

Post#27 » by ash_k » Mon Feb 19, 2024 10:38 pm

islandboy53 wrote:
ash_k wrote:
islandboy53 wrote:
As noted above, Darko was hired to develop, and will have at least a couple of years to prove himself. We should expect to see growth in the team and the coach, as this season winds down, but especially next year.

You guys have access to his contract? (stating "this contract guarantees 2 years of employment regardless of the performance")
This ain't the G-League, he was not just hired to "develop"; many players (have) regressed under him.
If he keeps losing with a lineup made of IQ, RJ, Scottie, Yak, getting blown-out, he is going to lose the locker-room (if not already) then Masai will have no choice.


The trade deadline has finally passed. The team has replaced 3 opening night starters (OG, Siakam, Schroder), as well as Achiuwa, Thad and Porter. That's a massive change, and now we should be able to settle in and see what we have.

In terms of development to date, Barnes is coming along well and Gradey is rapidly becoming a valuable part of the rotation. RJ seems to be thriving in the system, and Quickley is showing flashes of what we need him to be. Agbaji and Nwora haven't been around long enough to comment on in terms of their progress. Poeltl and Olynyk aren't development pieces, but both are filling their roles well. The only player that has regressed in any sense is Trent jr, but even he hasn't regressed "massively". You could make a case that McDaniels has regressed as well, but I'm not sure there were big expectations for him. Boucher is still Boucher, he's just not getting any run with the young pieces that need time on the floor.

Finally, if you were paying attention at all when Darko was hired, you would have heard repeatedly that he, and the rest of the staff, were long on development, and that that was likely going to be his primary focus if things didn't pan out with the old "core". Let him do his job for a while, and get back to me at this time next year.

Okay so you dont have access to that contract, after all
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Re: Shams: Brooklyn fire Jacque Vaughn 

Post#28 » by islandboy53 » Mon Feb 19, 2024 11:31 pm

ash_k wrote:
islandboy53 wrote:
ash_k wrote:You guys have access to his contract? (stating "this contract guarantees 2 years of employment regardless of the performance")
This ain't the G-League, he was not just hired to "develop"; many players (have) regressed under him.
If he keeps losing with a lineup made of IQ, RJ, Scottie, Yak, getting blown-out, he is going to lose the locker-room (if not already) then Masai will have no choice.


The trade deadline has finally passed. The team has replaced 3 opening night starters (OG, Siakam, Schroder), as well as Achiuwa, Thad and Porter. That's a massive change, and now we should be able to settle in and see what we have.

In terms of development to date, Barnes is coming along well and Gradey is rapidly becoming a valuable part of the rotation. RJ seems to be thriving in the system, and Quickley is showing flashes of what we need him to be. Agbaji and Nwora haven't been around long enough to comment on in terms of their progress. Poeltl and Olynyk aren't development pieces, but both are filling their roles well. The only player that has regressed in any sense is Trent jr, but even he hasn't regressed "massively". You could make a case that McDaniels has regressed as well, but I'm not sure there were big expectations for him. Boucher is still Boucher, he's just not getting any run with the young pieces that need time on the floor.

Finally, if you were paying attention at all when Darko was hired, you would have heard repeatedly that he, and the rest of the staff, were long on development, and that that was likely going to be his primary focus if things didn't pan out with the old "core". Let him do his job for a while, and get back to me at this time next year.

Okay so you dont have access to that contract, after all


Oof. You really nailed me there, bud. :lol:
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Re: Shams: Brooklyn fire Jacque Vaughn 

Post#29 » by ArthurVandelay » Mon Feb 19, 2024 11:38 pm

WaltFrazier wrote:
HiJiNX wrote:Their roster sucks. Not sure what they were expecting.


50 point loss to Boston was the last straw. And Bridges postgame in the locker room really threw Vaughn under the bus, saying they were unprepared, they have a scheme to play through Simmons but he's not there half the time, stuff along that line.



The bounce from a coach firing plus Dennis revenge game, doesn't look good for Raptors.


Here’s to the bounce.

The Nets are going to regret not trading Bridges if the Houston rumours were true. That would have been ultimate sell high and they could have regained all their draft picks plus a couple extra and a couple of prospects (Green plus one more?).
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Re: Shams: Brooklyn fire Jacque Vaughn 

Post#30 » by WuTang_CMB » Mon Feb 19, 2024 11:43 pm

ArthurVandelay wrote:
WaltFrazier wrote:
HiJiNX wrote:Their roster sucks. Not sure what they were expecting.


50 point loss to Boston was the last straw. And Bridges postgame in the locker room really threw Vaughn under the bus, saying they were unprepared, they have a scheme to play through Simmons but he's not there half the time, stuff along that line.



The bounce from a coach firing plus Dennis revenge game, doesn't look good for Raptors.


Here’s to the bounce.

The Nets are going to regret not trading Bridges if the Houston rumours were true. That would have been ultimate sell high and they could have regained all their draft picks plus a couple extra and a couple of prospects (Green plus one more?).


That deal is going to happen in the offseason. BRK needs to reboot
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Post#31 » by ArthurVandelay » Mon Feb 19, 2024 11:48 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:
ArthurVandelay wrote:
WaltFrazier wrote:
50 point loss to Boston was the last straw. And Bridges postgame in the locker room really threw Vaughn under the bus, saying they were unprepared, they have a scheme to play through Simmons but he's not there half the time, stuff along that line.



The bounce from a coach firing plus Dennis revenge game, doesn't look good for Raptors.


Here’s to the bounce.

The Nets are going to regret not trading Bridges if the Houston rumours were true. That would have been ultimate sell high and they could have regained all their draft picks plus a couple extra and a couple of prospects (Green plus one more?).


That deal is going to happen in the offseason. BRK needs to reboot


For their sake I hope so.

Bridges is a great player but he’s not a franchise cornerstone.

He has 2 years left on a value contract and then he’ll be going into his age 30 season looking for a max.

Minus the value contract part, it sounds familiar, no?
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Re: Shams: Brooklyn fire Jacque Vaughn 

Post#32 » by WuTang_CMB » Tue Feb 20, 2024 12:00 am

ArthurVandelay wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
ArthurVandelay wrote:
Here’s to the bounce.

The Nets are going to regret not trading Bridges if the Houston rumours were true. That would have been ultimate sell high and they could have regained all their draft picks plus a couple extra and a couple of prospects (Green plus one more?).


That deal is going to happen in the offseason. BRK needs to reboot


For their sake I hope so.

Bridges is a great player but he’s not a franchise cornerstone.

He has 2 years left on a value contract and then he’ll be going into his age 30 season looking for a max.

Minus the value contract part, it sounds familiar, no?


Sean marks got zero clue what hes doing. Wouldnt be surprised if hes out on his ass shortly
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Re: Shams: Brooklyn fire Jacque Vaughn 

Post#33 » by ForeverTFC » Tue Feb 20, 2024 12:12 am

WuTang_OG wrote:
ArthurVandelay wrote:
WaltFrazier wrote:
50 point loss to Boston was the last straw. And Bridges postgame in the locker room really threw Vaughn under the bus, saying they were unprepared, they have a scheme to play through Simmons but he's not there half the time, stuff along that line.



The bounce from a coach firing plus Dennis revenge game, doesn't look good for Raptors.


Here’s to the bounce.

The Nets are going to regret not trading Bridges if the Houston rumours were true. That would have been ultimate sell high and they could have regained all their draft picks plus a couple extra and a couple of prospects (Green plus one more?).


That deal is going to happen in the offseason. BRK needs to reboot


Most folks don’t realize the guy will be 28 this year. Unless the Nets plan to go star hunting with their Suns, Sixers and Mavs picks, they need to trade him as soon as possible.

I’m honestly not sure why they didn’t try to get Dame when the chance was there given they want to win. Maybe they’re waiting for Mitchell to be made available.
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Re: Shams: Brooklyn fire Jacque Vaughn 

Post#34 » by kalel123 » Tue Feb 20, 2024 12:33 am

It's bit of a weird move because their roster isn't that good to begin with. Makes me wonder if FO would be on the hot seat, too, and this move is to take some heat off themselves before the inevitable down the line.
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Post#35 » by 2019nbachamps » Tue Feb 20, 2024 2:45 am

Nets are terribly run. Imagine hiring Nash and then firing him and getting Vaughn as the replacement. They need an experienced coach.
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Re: Shams: Brooklyn fire Jacque Vaughn 

Post#36 » by ForeverTFC » Tue Feb 20, 2024 3:07 am

2019nbachamps wrote:Nets are terribly run. Imagine hiring Nash and then firing him and getting Vaughn as the replacement. They need an experienced coach.


Nash was the price they had to pay for KD and Kyrie. In hindsight, they shouldn't have gone all in on Kyrie but man, if COVID doesn't happen, those guys are probably still there together and the Nets have a few deep runs already. I don't know of any executive that would turn down the chance to have KD. Kyrie, and Harden.
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Re: Shams: Brooklyn fire Jacque Vaughn 

Post#37 » by OakleyDokely » Tue Feb 20, 2024 12:56 pm

They really should've traded Bridges at peak value. Rumour was they could've gotten their picks back from HOU along with a young player like Green. Bridges is a very nice player, but he's ideally an elite 3+D guy, or something like a #3 on a championship level team. They're trying to pass him off as "the guy" but he's going to be 28 soon and he is what he is at this point, there's no more hidden potential. They really can't truly rebuild without their own picks and they owe a lot of them, along with swaps to HOU until 2028. And unless they can pull a superstar out of thin air, they ain't winning in the Bridges' era.
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Post#38 » by Van_Trump » Wed Feb 21, 2024 6:35 pm

Nets will want to beat Toronto to prove it WAS the coach's fault.
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Re: Shams: Brooklyn fire Jacque Vaughn 

Post#39 » by Lockdown504090 » Thu Feb 22, 2024 9:13 pm

id love to have him if we want to move on from darko.
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Post#40 » by 2019nbachamps » Thu Feb 22, 2024 10:40 pm

Lockdown504090 wrote:id love to have him if we want to move on from darko.


He was terrible with the Magic and Nets. Doubt he gets another chance.

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