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Post#1481 » by RookieStar » Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:32 pm

Yeah... i think this is Fultz farewell tour already. They are hiding something..
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Post#1482 » by Bergmaniac » Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:41 pm

What is the point of hiding anything at this point though, his contract ends this summer.
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Post#1483 » by RichCollab » Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:55 pm

It may be time for Fultz to pull the plug on this season.
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Post#1484 » by eyriq » Thu Feb 22, 2024 12:22 am

SOUL wrote:
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Incredible.

We have such issues with shooting and availability, and Fultz just happens to be the poster child for both issues.
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Post#1485 » by Optimus_Steel » Thu Feb 22, 2024 12:24 am

I think writing on the wall, Fultz is done in Orlando after the season ends.
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Post#1486 » by eyriq » Thu Feb 22, 2024 12:27 am

Watch Mosley start Harris.
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Post#1487 » by meatwad4343 » Thu Feb 22, 2024 12:27 am

Even if fultz wasn't made of glass and could play 82 games a year I still dont want him. There's no room in today's nba for a guard that is zero threat to shoot outside of two feet from the rim
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Post#1488 » by eyriq » Thu Feb 22, 2024 12:38 am

Paolo likes diming up Franz. Franz? His bro haha

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Post#1489 » by eyriq » Thu Feb 22, 2024 12:47 am

Our most assisted list is sad

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Post#1490 » by BadMofoPimp » Thu Feb 22, 2024 12:54 am

meatwad4343 wrote:Even if fultz wasn't made of glass and could play 82 games a year I still dont want him. There's no room in today's nba for a guard that is zero threat to shoot outside of two feet from the rim


Fultz will make for a good backup somewhere.
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Post#1491 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Thu Feb 22, 2024 1:10 am

BadMofoPimp wrote:
meatwad4343 wrote:Even if fultz wasn't made of glass and could play 82 games a year I still dont want him. There's no room in today's nba for a guard that is zero threat to shoot outside of two feet from the rim


Fultz will make for a good backup somewhere.

In euro league yeah
A scoring guard.. never heard of one. :roll:
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Post#1492 » by BadMofoPimp » Thu Feb 22, 2024 1:18 am

MartinsIzAfraud wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:
meatwad4343 wrote:Even if fultz wasn't made of glass and could play 82 games a year I still dont want him. There's no room in today's nba for a guard that is zero threat to shoot outside of two feet from the rim


Fultz will make for a good backup somewhere.

In euro league yeah


Nah, I bet plenty of teams out there still willing to gamble $8-12 mil per.
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Post#1493 » by basketballRob » Thu Feb 22, 2024 1:40 am

They should start Isaac against the Cavs. WCJ, Isaac, Franz, Paolo, and Suggs. The bench Goga, Moe, Ingles, Harris, and Cole. This will be the best rotation.

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Post#1494 » by drsd » Thu Feb 22, 2024 7:56 am

JoshuaPotter wrote:Tracy McGrady, Reshard Lewis, Dwight Howard, Hedo Turkaflu, Jameer Nelson....

Everything would have changed.


Year one (2004-05) it would have been:
Francis/McGrady/Hill/Howard/Battie-or-Cato

Maybe if McGrady stays, the Magic upgrade the C slot for Howard's rookie 2004-05 season. It is an interesting roster. Clearly one outcome would be that the Magic would have never acquired Türkoğlu for 2005-06. And moving from there, it is a total rewrite of history. The Magic would have never assembled a 4-out and 1-in roster. And frankly, Howard might have spent his Magic career as a PF.
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Post#1495 » by JoshuaPotter » Thu Feb 22, 2024 1:31 pm

drsd wrote:
JoshuaPotter wrote:Tracy McGrady, Reshard Lewis, Dwight Howard, Hedo Turkaflu, Jameer Nelson....

Everything would have changed.


Year one (2004-05) it would have been:
Francis/McGrady/Hill/Howard/Battie-or-Cato

Maybe if McGrady stays, the Magic upgrade the C slot for Howard's rookie 2004-05 season. It is an interesting roster. Clearly one outcome would be that the Magic would have never acquired Türkoğlu for 2005-06. And moving from there, it is a total rewrite of history. The Magic would have never assembled a 4-out and 1-in roster. And frankly, Howard might have spent his Magic career as a PF.


We traded Mcgrady though for Francis, Cato, Catino Mobley though in a S&T correct?
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Post#1496 » by Fortune Teller » Thu Feb 22, 2024 1:43 pm

eyriq wrote:
SOUL wrote:
Read on Twitter
Incredible.

We have such issues with shooting and availability, and Fultz just happens to be the poster child for both issues.

"Knee injury maintenance" after a week off for the All-Star break? What was the knee injury? Tendinitis (if he even ever had that) is not really an injury, it's just soreness from inflammation, and it typically resolves itself at some point through rest (which he had plenty of). So now after a week of rest he needs to take the night off?

I genuinely hope they just sit him for the rest of the season, whatever is wrong with him. I'm so tired of these guys (Fultz, Isaac, Harris, WCJ) who are constantly in and out of the lineup and play half the season in a healthy year. Fultz and Harris bother me the most because I just don't see a sense of urgency from them. Maybe it's their personalities, I don't know, but half the time we're not even sure what's keeping them out.
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Post#1497 » by eyriq » Thu Feb 22, 2024 2:00 pm

Fortune Teller wrote:
eyriq wrote:
SOUL wrote:
Read on Twitter
Incredible.

We have such issues with shooting and availability, and Fultz just happens to be the poster child for both issues.

"Knee injury maintenance" after a week off for the All-Star break? What was the knee injury? Tendinitis (if he even ever had that) is not really an injury, it's just soreness from inflammation, and it typically resolves itself at some point through rest (which he had plenty of). So now after a week of rest he needs to take the night off?

I genuinely hope they just sit him for the rest of the season, whatever is wrong with him. I'm so tired of these guys (Fultz, Isaac, Harris, WCJ) who are constantly in and out of the lineup and play half the season in a healthy year. Fultz and Harris bother me the most because I just don't see a sense of urgency from them. Maybe it's their personalities, I don't know, but half the time we're not even sure what's keeping them out.
Amen, brother.
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Post#1498 » by KillMonger » Thu Feb 22, 2024 2:17 pm

Fortune Teller wrote:
eyriq wrote:
SOUL wrote:
Read on Twitter
Incredible.

We have such issues with shooting and availability, and Fultz just happens to be the poster child for both issues.

"Knee injury maintenance" after a week off for the All-Star break? What was the knee injury? Tendinitis (if he even ever had that) is not really an injury, it's just soreness from inflammation, and it typically resolves itself at some point through rest (which he had plenty of). So now after a week of rest he needs to take the night off?

I genuinely hope they just sit him for the rest of the season, whatever is wrong with him. I'm so tired of these guys (Fultz, Isaac, Harris, WCJ) who are constantly in and out of the lineup and play half the season in a healthy year. Fultz and Harris bother me the most because I just don't see a sense of urgency from them. Maybe it's their personalities, I don't know, but half the time we're not even sure what's keeping them out.

more than a week cause remember he didn't play the knicks game, he had about 9 days off.....if people didn't feel the writing was on the wall before they should now.....
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Post#1499 » by AaronB » Thu Feb 22, 2024 2:54 pm

eyriq wrote:
Fortune Teller wrote:
eyriq wrote:Incredible.

We have such issues with shooting and availability, and Fultz just happens to be the poster child for both issues.

"Knee injury maintenance" after a week off for the All-Star break? What was the knee injury? Tendinitis (if he even ever had that) is not really an injury, it's just soreness from inflammation, and it typically resolves itself at some point through rest (which he had plenty of). So now after a week of rest he needs to take the night off?

I genuinely hope they just sit him for the rest of the season, whatever is wrong with him. I'm so tired of these guys (Fultz, Isaac, Harris, WCJ) who are constantly in and out of the lineup and play half the season in a healthy year. Fultz and Harris bother me the most because I just don't see a sense of urgency from them. Maybe it's their personalities, I don't know, but half the time we're not even sure what's keeping them out.
Amen, brother.


Complete nonsense.

Knee tendonitis to a basketball player is like elbow tendonitis to a baseball pitcher. It requires complete rest for a while, but then also strength training and building up the support muscles. At the time that they announced it, I said that this was going to be a long-term issue. It can be very painful, especially for someone who already has CNS issues, which Fultz has.

I doubt seriously that the Magic players did nothing over the break. I suspect that Fultz probably pushed it too hard. Working too hard is his MO. It is how he got to where he was as the #1 pick.
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Post#1500 » by magik9113 » Thu Feb 22, 2024 3:49 pm

AaronB wrote:
eyriq wrote:
Fortune Teller wrote:"Knee injury maintenance" after a week off for the All-Star break? What was the knee injury? Tendinitis (if he even ever had that) is not really an injury, it's just soreness from inflammation, and it typically resolves itself at some point through rest (which he had plenty of). So now after a week of rest he needs to take the night off?

I genuinely hope they just sit him for the rest of the season, whatever is wrong with him. I'm so tired of these guys (Fultz, Isaac, Harris, WCJ) who are constantly in and out of the lineup and play half the season in a healthy year. Fultz and Harris bother me the most because I just don't see a sense of urgency from them. Maybe it's their personalities, I don't know, but half the time we're not even sure what's keeping them out.
Amen, brother.


Complete nonsense.

Knee tendonitis to a basketball player is like elbow tendonitis to a baseball pitcher. It requires complete rest for a while, but then also strength training and building up the support muscles. At the time that they announced it, I said that this was going to be a long-term issue. It can be very painful, especially for someone who already has CNS issues, which Fultz has.

I doubt seriously that the Magic players did nothing over the break. I suspect that Fultz probably pushed it too hard. Working too hard is his MO. It is how he got to where he was as the #1 pick.

that's quite an optimistic take.
Tendinitis certainly is the type of injury to linger for an entire season, but it is undeniably ridiculous to have to miss the first game after the all-star break with this kind of injury...
I've struggled with knee and ankle tendinitis throughout my soccer career, and while I know basketball is different, I just can't imagine that this dude is missing all this time due to "knee tendinitis". I mean, it is safe to assume he's getting constant treatment and checkups from a qualified medical staff... I've been saying it all season, to me this just doesn't add up.
It's more likely we're doing him a favor by calling it tendinitis so whatever sorry team signs him this off-season isn't overly aware of his other issues constantly flaring up

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