2023-24 Season Discussion and Speculation 5 - the calm before the storm

[Ghost of Kleine]

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Danny Green Explains Why He Believes The Suns Are Pretenders This Season

Danny Green opens up on why the Suns are not a serious championship team.
NICO MARTINEZ
6 HOURS AGO

Former NBA champion Danny Green is one of many experts who isn't sold on the Phoenix Suns this season. Speaking on 'Inside the Green Room' podcast, he explained why he's hesitant to call the Suns a true title contender despite the presence of Kevin Durant and Devin Booker.

"I feel like they haven't got enough time," said Green to Harrison Sanford. "There's not enough time with their three healthy, the minutes, even though Bradley Beal's on a minutes restriction, he had a great game of the night. I think he had 31, and played well, but then Book goes down. This big three, I'll say that they had more minutes than James Kyrie and KD, but still not enough reps to see what they really look like.”

While there are some in the league who are still high on the Suns, there is a growing sense of uncertainty with them amid an injury-plagued season that has robbed the big three of so many minutes together. Whether it's Beal, Durant, or Booker, the Suns stars have each been in and out of the lineup all season, putting pressure on a shaky supporting carry the load each and every game.

At just 6th in the West, the Suns have not had the kind of dominant season they were hoping for but there is still time to get right. If they can clean up their act down the stretch of this season, it could set up the Suns for a major playoff run. But first, they will need some good fortune to break their way so that their team can be whole once again. Until we see the Suns at full strength for longer than a few games, it will be hard to judge their true potential but they've invested far too much to give up now.

[sashaturiaf]

Nick Wrong is a straight up clown but I agree we can't be considered a contender right now. Even the optimistic homer side of me can't see that, we have the talent level to be a contender but our play has been inconsistent and middling all season


We can't even put together a coherent 4th quarter in the regular season even against the likes of the Pistons, how can you expect we can suddenly can do that 4 times in a series against the best teams in the NBA

Best to view this season as a building year and have no higher expectations than that. I've been watching basketball for a long time and we ain't a title team

[Fo-Real]

Bismack fainted on the sideline last night!! WTF!! Apparently he is ok, thank god.

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Nick Wright is rat in human form.

I couldn't care any less than I do about what he has to say. How the f- did this clown even get on these shows?

[MrMiyagi]

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Nick Wright is rat in human form.

I couldn't care any less than I do about what he has to say. How the f- did this clown even get on these shows?

The same way they all do, **** takes said confidently.

[King4Day]

Magic are 4th in the east. What a season they're having. I know it's only 36 wins but did anyone see this coming? Happy for their development. I wonder how they'll be able to acquire stars in the future. Maybe the 2nd apron will be what helps them like it did Indy

well no, it's not "only 36 wins". this is a big deal for them because this is potentially only the second time since Dwight Howard was still on the team that they can have a winning record, and they are well ahead of the pace compared to the other time in 2018-2019 when they were 42-40. they have been really solid.

I said it that way because if I say 36 wins are impressive, I have to say the Suns record is impressive. And it's far from it.
For the Magic, sure but they aren't close to the top of the east and are a likely a 2nd round knockout. 1st, if they get a bad matchup.
Just saying they're having a really good year.

EDIT: Let me try again because that came off as a backhanded compliment to them
Magic are having a great year and I'm really happy for them. They have 7 teams with better records. A number of them in the 40's.

Their development is all you could ask for as a Magic fan. Improvements each year is a big deal and this is the next step for them, regardless what happens in the playoffs.
My only concerns for them are:

1. They will no longer be in the running for top end draft picks, which shouldn't matter since they have lots of high potential kids. So, this youth movement has to pan out.
2. It'll be tough for them to attract a big name there (assuming they want one at some point) to complement their current stars.

If they can get to round 2, or put up a real fight in round one, that's a hell of a year.

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Nick Wright is rat in human form.

I couldn't care any less than I do about what he has to say. How the f- did this clown even get on these shows?

The same way they all do, **** takes said confidently.

Not a fan of him but he's really not wrong.
Nobody should take us seriously since we've had enough games to prove we could play well, even when unhealthy, and have fallen flat each time. A team with just 2 of the big 3 needs to find ways to win. The Denver win shows what we should have been doing all year.
Worst 4th quarter of any team as we have the 10 losses after leading going into the 4th. Take half of those and we're fighting for first in the west.

I'd rather be slept on at this point. If the team gets healthy and gets right (if if if if if yada yada), it would be a fun story to sneak up on these teams and get some upsets.

[bwgood77]

Saben and Ish are here so Jones doesn’t have to sift through the league’s minimum wage trash pile next yr….he has one started in his back yard.

Off season is going to be interesting. Have to think we will try to move Little may be for a future second. Would like to see us keep the drafted rook. It’s clearly up Wishbea and Zeke as Junkyard’s draft disdain/ineptitude is on record.

Unless it's for tax purposes, I imagine we would try to deal him for a useful vet..maybe to a rebuilding team that might want to give hi a shot. If only to retain that cap space which his salary slot fills.

[bwgood77]

Magic are 4th in the east. What a season they're having. I know it's only 36 wins but did anyone see this coming? Happy for their development. I wonder how they'll be able to acquire stars in the future. Maybe the 2nd apron will be what helps them like it did Indy

well no, it's not "only 36 wins". this is a big deal for them because this is potentially only the second time since Dwight Howard was still on the team that they can have a winning record, and they are well ahead of the pace compared to the other time in 2018-2019 when they were 42-40. they have been really solid.

I said it that way because if I say 36 wins are impressive, I have to say the Suns record is impressive. And it's far from it.
For the Magic, sure but they aren't close to the top of the east and are a likely a 2nd round knockout. 1st, if they get a bad matchup.
Just saying they're having a really good year.

EDIT: Let me try again because that came off as a backhanded compliment to them
Magic are having a great year and I'm really happy for them. They have 7 teams with better records. A number of them in the 40's.

Their development is all you could ask for as a Magic fan. Improvements each year is a big deal and this is the next step for them, regardless what happens in the playoffs.
My only concerns for them are:

1. They will no longer be in the running for top end draft picks, which shouldn't matter since they have lots of high potential kids. So, this youth movement has to pan out.
2. It'll be tough for them to attract a big name there (assuming they want one at some point) to complement their current stars.

If they can get to round 2, or put up a real fight in round one, that's a hell of a year.

Banchero and Franz Wagner have star quality, particularly Banchero, but Wagner is great. Wendell Carter is pretty solid. Two things that will help them is if one or even two of their point guards end up taking it up a notch (Suggs, Anthony, Fultz). Then another big thing is if Goga Bitadze takes a leap. I was also surprised to see Gary Harris playing quite a bit, and checked his age because I thought he might be pretty old, but he's only 29.

It will also be interesting to see if Isaac can stay healthy and if they bring him back. HIs last year is not guaranteed. They can keep him though if they let Gary Harris and/or Fultz go.

[sunsbum]

Adam silver **** creeps me out.

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[Calvin Klein]

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[bwgood77]

Make that 8 3s...in the 1st quarter....still time left too. Crazy. 24 of our points.

[garrick]

lol

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I hope he was being sarcastic???

Did someone not explain this to him when he made the Beal trade?

[Frank Lee]

1 million seconds equals 11 1/2 days
1 billion seconds equals 31 1/2 years

The MadMatter has over 180 years worth of seconds


May be the Whats that?’ response (second apron) was code for ‘Who the F cares?’

[garrick]

1 million seconds equals 11 1/2 days
1 billion seconds equals 31 1/2 years

The MadMatter has over 180 years worth of seconds


May be the Whats that?’ response (second apron) was code for ‘Who the F cares?’

Yeah I'm hoping he was being a smart ass about it because there are some very real implications of being stuck in the 2nd apron.

Drafting at the back end of the 1st round and not being able to pick up some buyout candidates for a team that is going to heavily depend on signing from the buyout market is not trivial.

[Mr Puddles]

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I hope he was being sarcastic???

Did someone not explain this to him when he made the Beal trade?

I'm sure he was kidding, dude became a multi-billionaire in the financial industry. Chances are he didn't just start pulling the trigger on a bunch of multimillion dollar deals without knowing the financial implication of those deals.

[lilfishi22]

It was very clearly and obviously sarcasm

[sashaturiaf]

That was definitely said in jest by Ishibia.

I got zero doubt Ishbia will pay whatever it takes to keep Royce and GA, we have no way of replacing them. He didn't give away half a decade of picks for KD so that he can skimp money on role players.

More worried about losing Bol Bol since we can't pay him anything above the min. Just gotta hope he values KDs mentorship and the vibe around the team since he's definitely getting better offers than what we can give him

[Saberestar]

That was definitely said in jest by Ishibia.

I got zero doubt Ishbia will pay whatever it takes to keep Royce and GA, we have no way of replacing them. He didn't give away half a decade of picks for KD so that he can skimp money on role players.

More worried about losing Bol Bol since we can't pay him anything above the min. Just gotta hope he values KDs mentorship and the vibe around the team since he's definitely getting better offers than what we can give him

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