2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 2

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https://nbadraft.theringer.com/mock-draft

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#7 Salaun .. going to spurs.. ouch
#15 walter
Topic at 11 is crazy talk

This mock is wild. Salaun ahead of Dillingham, Williams and Topic is certainly a take. Reed at 1 is also kinda nutty (and I like Reed).

I think people are way over their skis with these Salaun takes. He's closer to Kevin Knox than fols want to admit

He is raw but already bigger (Knox is 6'7) and that extra size means a lot finishing with power. He's more like Aaron Gordon right now.

[ArthurVandelay]

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/mock-draft

updated

#7 Salaun .. going to spurs.. ouch
#15 walter
Topic at 11 is crazy talk

This mock is wild. Salaun ahead of Dillingham, Williams and Topic is certainly a take. Reed at 1 is also kinda nutty (and I like Reed).

I think people are way over their skis with these Salaun takes. He's closer to Kevin Knox than fols want to admit

It wasn't like that earlier today, KOC is playing around with his board

He’s just trying to be different to get attention.

Topic at 11 is nuts

[WuTang_CMB]

I know its early but I dont think anyone has any idea how the lottery is going to pan out. All these players are bunched up because there's no sure fire starish players at the top like 2023.

The more the mystery the better for our pick if we keep the SA or just draft at 15? for Indy pick.

[grant101]

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/mock-draft

updated

#7 Salaun .. going to spurs.. ouch
#15 walter
Topic at 11 is crazy talk

This mock is wild. Salaun ahead of Dillingham, Williams and Topic is certainly a take. Reed at 1 is also kinda nutty (and I like Reed).

I think people are way over their skis with these Salaun takes. He's closer to Kevin Knox than fols want to admit

He is raw but already bigger (Knox is 6'7) and that extra size means a lot finishing with power. He's more like Aaron Gordon right now.

He may be a little taller, but similar big raw wings with streaky shots and defending/playmaking deficits. Knox could at least create for himself a little. Aaron Gordon was a completely different player. He played some point forward at Arizona and is leaps and bounds better athletically and defensively. If we want a big wing that shoots and does little else, Tyler Smith is a much more appealing bet IMO

[Dalek]

Will Toronto strike gold again and select a New Mexico Lobo? I honestly tend to discount the Mountain West conference, but JT Toppin is elite in his conference being likely the best athlete and possible MW DPOY. His team is on the bubble to make the tournament, so we could see more, but his numbers demand attention. The 6'9 freshman is averaging:

12.6 PPG
8.8 REB
35% from three (10-29)
3 Stocks

5.4 OBPM
2.7 DBPM
97th percentile in transition

He really reminds me of Siakam in a lot of ways. Being the energy big who runs the floor, and is a special defender who could guard 1-5. Siakam came out as a Sophomore, by comparison:

20.3 PPG
11.6 REB
2.6 Stocks

5.2 OBPM
3.1 DBPM

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I did find a Productive Young Athlete rating tool and JT Toppin made the freshman list this year beside Reed Sheppard and Collin Murray-Boyles. Here are the past freshmen who qualified:
2023 Brandon Miller, Dereck Lively II, Jarace Walker, and Brice Sensabaugh.
2022 Chet Holmgren and Jabari Smith Jr, plus Kennedy Chandler and Daron Holmes II
2021 Evan Mobley and Jalen Suggs

More on the tool: https://www.si.com/nba/draft/newsfeed/nba-draft-the-productive-young-athlete-query-part-one

He is probably going to be compared with the outcomes with DaRon Holmes and Kel'el Ware, but both are more exclusive Cs at the next level, while Toppin is young enough to switch to more of a forward role with development. At 31/32 he'd be a guy I look at for sure.

[ArthurVandelay]

I know its early but I dont think anyone has any idea how the lottery is going to pan out. All these players are bunched up because there's no sure fire starish players at the top like 2023.

The more the mystery the better for our pick if we keep the SA or just draft at 15? for Indy pick.

This will be the draft where we find out which teams do their own scouting and which teams rely on Givony and Wasserman

[WuTang_CMB]

I know its early but I dont think anyone has any idea how the lottery is going to pan out. All these players are bunched up because there's no sure fire starish players at the top like 2023.

The more the mystery the better for our pick if we keep the SA or just draft at 15? for Indy pick.

This will be the draft where we find out which teams do their own scouting and which teams rely on Givony and Wasserman

[DreamTeam09]

I'm not high on Sheppard,
I'm not high on topic being a superstar.
I like Slaun, but he could be a Kevin Knox type, but even there I think he'll be able to develop way easier than Knox.
I like Ware as well
I also like the Tennessee kid Daulton Vonclech,(ino I spelt his name wrong)
Really like Dillingham too but I don't really want him on the raps

[Psubs]

This mock is wild. Salaun ahead of Dillingham, Williams and Topic is certainly a take. Reed at 1 is also kinda nutty (and I like Reed).

I think people are way over their skis with these Salaun takes. He's closer to Kevin Knox than fols want to admit

It wasn't like that earlier today, KOC is playing around with his board

He’s just trying to be different to get attention.

Topic at 11 is nuts

https://www.nbadraft.net/nba-mock-drafts/

They have Topic at #18. Holland at #22 is shocking! Clingan all the way at #42 is baffling; there's a reason why UConn is #2 in the country. Maybe they think he's like a taller Trayce Jackson-Davis?

I wanted Carlton Carrington with #32, they have him now at #5.

Dalton Knecht at #3 like he's Dwyane Wade 2.0!

[Dalek]

I'm not high on Sheppard,
I'm not high on topic being a superstar.
I like Slaun, but he could be a Kevin Knox type, but even there I think he'll be able to develop way easier than Knox.
I like Ware as well
I also like the Tennessee kid Daulton Vonclech,(ino I spelt his name wrong)
Really like Dillingham too but I don't really want him on the raps

Sheppard to me will have his doubters just based on size and athleticism, but his shooting numbers will translate. Even Jimmer didn't have this type of efficiency. HIs defensive playmaking also should be good enough to make him a neutral defender.

Basically, we try to find flaws in guys, but you see how a player like Podz was so plug and play in the right type of system. We all also doubted Steph and he is in a greatest shooter category. Haliburton also had many huge doubters.

Sheppard's 54/52/82 is basically unheard of territory for a guard. The recent Tennessee game was a capper for me. Even after he screwed up, he still secured the victory by taking over the game in scoring. The guy is just a winner. I assume he will go top five in this draft.

In our range Ware makes some sense, but I don't have the best handle on his mental make-up and injury history. Those skinny types always worry me.

The French kid Salaun is a good bet with Indy pick as well, but I would not go too high. He only does a couple things well and I* am not sure I see a huge feel for the game.

Collier to me is the best fit. If we get such a highly rated big driving guard like him with the Indy pick, we are doing well. Sorry, but Quickley is never going to be an elite driver and Collier is a far better playmaker as this late college season is showing.

[JShuttlesworth]

The mock drafts are all over the place this year, there's hardly a consensus lottery, or even Top 5. Movement within the lottery or out of the lottery shouldn't surprise anyone, the mocks have been pretty fluid all year, and it will continue to be leading up to the draft.

Plus it's tournament season where certain NCAA players are starting to level up their draft stock

I don't even think The Ringer mocking Reed #3 is that crazy because they have him mocked to San Antonio, who needs a guard, and he'd be a great fit there. What would be really interesting to me is who the Spurs would draft if they ended up with #1 or #2.

Reed would really be a great fit in Toronto though...

[PhilBlackson]

It wasn't like that earlier today, KOC is playing around with his board

He’s just trying to be different to get attention.

Topic at 11 is nuts

https://www.nbadraft.net/nba-mock-drafts/

They have Topic at #18. Holland at #22 is shocking! Clingan all the way at #42 is baffling; there's a reason why UConn is #2 in the country. Maybe they think he's like a taller Trayce Jackson-Davis?

I wanted Carlton Carrington with #32, they have him now at #5.

Dalton Knecht at #3 like he's Dwyane Wade 2.0!

nbadraft.net is an absolute flaming pile of garbage for several years now. You’d swear they just throw the names into the equivalent of a ping pong machine and just post whatever it’s spits out. No one should ever take their board seriously anymore.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

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[ArthurVandelay]

It wasn't like that earlier today, KOC is playing around with his board

He’s just trying to be different to get attention.

Topic at 11 is nuts

https://www.nbadraft.net/nba-mock-drafts/

They have Topic at #18. Holland at #22 is shocking! Clingan all the way at #42 is baffling; there's a reason why UConn is #2 in the country. Maybe they think he's like a taller Trayce Jackson-Davis?

I wanted Carlton Carrington with #32, they have him now at #5.

Dalton Knecht at #3 like he's Dwyane Wade 2.0!

That website is no different than us on realGM since wasserman left.

[CazOnReal]

I find the best approach to take re: mock drafts this early is to approach them via tiers i.e. Tier 1 prospects, Tier 2, etc. or an overall range i.e. "lottery range, mid first range, early second range, etc."

For me, the guys you're looking at with the Pacers pick are mostly Tier 2-2.5 barring someone falling a la Whitmore in the 2023 draft i.e. acquiring a rotation level player with said pick will be a success.

This is assuming we don't trade the pick on or before draft night, of course.

[Mark_83]

Knecht or Ware at the Pacers pick is what I'm hoping for right now, assuming no one ranked higher falls.

[DreamTeam09]

I'm not high on Sheppard,
I'm not high on topic being a superstar.
I like Slaun, but he could be a Kevin Knox type, but even there I think he'll be able to develop way easier than Knox.
I like Ware as well
I also like the Tennessee kid Daulton Vonclech,(ino I spelt his name wrong)
Really like Dillingham too but I don't really want him on the raps

Sheppard to me will have his doubters just based on size and athleticism, but his shooting numbers will translate. Even Jimmer didn't have this type of efficiency. HIs defensive playmaking also should be good enough to make him a neutral defender.

Basically, we try to find flaws in guys, but you see how a player like Podz was so plug and play in the right type of system. We all also doubted Steph and he is in a greatest shooter category. Haliburton also had many huge doubters.

Sheppard's 54/52/82 is basically unheard of territory for a guard. The recent Tennessee game was a capper for me. Even after he screwed up, he still secured the victory by taking over the game in scoring. The guy is just a winner. I assume he will go top five in this draft.

In our range Ware makes some sense, but I don't have the best handle on his mental make-up and injury history. Those skinny types always worry me.

The French kid Salaun is a good bet with Indy pick as well, but I would not go too high. He only does a couple things well and I* am not sure I see a huge feel for the game.

Collier to me is the best fit. If we get such a highly rated big driving guard like him with the Indy pick, we are doing well. Sorry, but Quickley is never going to be an elite driver and Collier is a far better playmaker as this late college season is showing.

Steph and Hali I could understand being stars, Sheppard for me isn't big/athletic enough to be imposing at the other level. Podz is a great comp because yeah he's good, but will Podz be great ?

I forgot about Collier, I like him alot for our pick as well. Makes a ton of sense for us, Ryan Dunn looks like he'll instantly fill a need for us.

[PushDaRock]

I'm pretty curious what teams can get if they want to trade a top 5 pick. Normally it would be a king's ransom which is why it so rarely happens but this year should be interesting if a lot of teams think they can move down and still get someone they like. Every team's draft board is going to be all over the place, way more than normal.

[PushDaRock]

I'm not high on Sheppard,
I'm not high on topic being a superstar.
I like Slaun, but he could be a Kevin Knox type, but even there I think he'll be able to develop way easier than Knox.
I like Ware as well
I also like the Tennessee kid Daulton Vonclech,(ino I spelt his name wrong)
Really like Dillingham too but I don't really want him on the raps

Sheppard to me will have his doubters just based on size and athleticism, but his shooting numbers will translate. Even Jimmer didn't have this type of efficiency. HIs defensive playmaking also should be good enough to make him a neutral defender.

Basically, we try to find flaws in guys, but you see how a player like Podz was so plug and play in the right type of system. We all also doubted Steph and he is in a greatest shooter category. Haliburton also had many huge doubters.

Sheppard's 54/52/82 is basically unheard of territory for a guard. The recent Tennessee game was a capper for me. Even after he screwed up, he still secured the victory by taking over the game in scoring. The guy is just a winner. I assume he will go top five in this draft.

In our range Ware makes some sense, but I don't have the best handle on his mental make-up and injury history. Those skinny types always worry me.

The French kid Salaun is a good bet with Indy pick as well, but I would not go too high. He only does a couple things well and I* am not sure I see a huge feel for the game.

Collier to me is the best fit. If we get such a highly rated big driving guard like him with the Indy pick, we are doing well. Sorry, but Quickley is never going to be an elite driver and Collier is a far better playmaker as this late college season is showing.

Steph and Hali I could understand being stars, Sheppard for me isn't big/athletic enough to be imposing at the other level. Podz is a great comp because yeah he's good, but will Podz be great ?

I forgot about Collier, I like him alot for our pick as well. Makes a ton of sense for us, Ryan Dunn looks like he'll instantly fill a need for us.

The Podz hype is a bit weird at this point. The numbers aren't amazing really and he's scoring at below average efficiency with his poor FT shooting. I like the compete level and all those things but I'm not seeing future star either, I would need to see more. The on/off per 100 metrics are off the charts for him though but I would need to see a bigger sample size to be convinced. I think it's just a weird year given Curry is a -2.1 in on/off per 100 and it would be hard to argue that the team is better with Steph off the court than on it.

[Mark_83]

What do people think of Alex Karaban? A bit old for a Sophomore but he's a big (6'8 210lb) wing shooter, with really efficient percentages (50/40/90). Averaging 16.2pts 5.8reb 1.6ast 1blk 1.1stl (per 36). Projects to be Sam Hauser?

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