OKC Summer Plan

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Re: OKC Summer Plan 

Post#41 » by jayjaysee » Mon Apr 1, 2024 9:10 pm

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jayjaysee wrote:But yeah, I wouldn’t keep the first round pick at all. I think with 35~ million in cap space, Presti can fill the roster and delay the lottery pick a couple years. And that’s what I expect OKC to do.

There’s a decent amount of bigs that are available this offseason and OKC is a contender looking for a 28-30mpg piece. Whether that’s locking up Claxton on a big front loaded deal, or just overpaying Jonas/Jalen/Hartenstein on a very bloated one year deal with a team option..


If Presti even trade the sole first rounder he have I will be so hyped for free agency. Just cause that will raise my expectations.


With the plethora of available bigs I really expect us to do something. Someone who can take 20 minutes of playing time at minimum.


I think that’s best for OKC. They don’t need to start a rookie clock / development next year. They can use the cap space for the bench (or ideally Claxton..imo) this summer.

I would’ve traded for Pascal, felt like I could win a championship this year, and traded Josh if Pascal resigned. But because he didn’t..

I think Presti is comfortable with his trio and will add a piece or two more that fit around it while keeping the draft capital to sustain the team through the repeater tax.

So I’d trade Joe, Josh, and Dieng this summer.. And I think that’s where I lose a lot of OKC fans.. But I’m keeping Cason and Dort. So Joe is probably getting poached in 12 months anyways. Josh I’m trading if I add a 20+ mil long term piece. Keeping him if I don’t.
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Re: OKC Summer Plan 

Post#42 » by zimpy27 » Mon Apr 1, 2024 10:59 pm

I'm putting this out in the world regardless of likelihood..

LeBron would be a beautiful fit on this team at the PF spot.
OKC have the ability to pay him in free agency this offseason.


SGA, Dort, Jalen, LeBron, Holmgren -- Cason, Joe, Giddey, Kenrich, Room MLE C
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Re: OKC Summer Plan 

Post#43 » by NYG » Mon Apr 1, 2024 11:44 pm

Would OKC make the king's ransom offer for Lauri? I don't see who is a legitimate consolidation option.
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Re: OKC Summer Plan 

Post#44 » by Devilanche » Tue Apr 2, 2024 3:48 am

zimpy27 wrote:I'm putting this out in the world regardless of likelihood..

LeBron would be a beautiful fit on this team at the PF spot.
OKC have the ability to pay him in free agency this offseason.


SGA, Dort, Jalen, LeBron, Holmgren -- Cason, Joe, Giddey, Kenrich, Room MLE C

Would love to have LeBron .

We can even draft his son so he can play together with his son whichever year that maybe .

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Re: OKC Summer Plan 

Post#45 » by sonictecture » Tue Apr 2, 2024 5:33 am

Texas Chuck wrote:OKC should be consolidating more than anything else. Get big man depth behind that, but go get a legit 2nd best player.


This sentiment might have had some agreement last Summer, but I think most Thunder fans recognize that Jalen Williams is a legitimate second option.

Consolidation around the fringes occurred at the trade deadline and with the waiving of Poku. Creating cap and roster space for retention and refinement.
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Re: OKC Summer Plan 

Post#46 » by NYG » Tue Apr 2, 2024 5:40 am

Is DeRozan a fit?
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Re: OKC Summer Plan 

Post#47 » by NYG » Tue Apr 2, 2024 5:40 am

sonictecture wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:OKC should be consolidating more than anything else. Get big man depth behind that, but go get a legit 2nd best player.


This sentiment might have had some agreement last Summer, but I think most Thunder fans recognize that Jalen Williams is a legitimate second option.

Consolidation around the fringes occurred at the trade deadline and with the waiving of Poku. Creating cap and roster space for retention and refinement.


What do you see the Thunder doing?
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Re: OKC Summer Plan 

Post#48 » by Mavrelous » Tue Apr 2, 2024 5:43 am

NYG wrote:Would OKC make the king's ransom offer for Lauri? I don't see who is a legitimate consolidation option.

The time for that was at the deadline, now it's too complicated because of the contract.

They obviousely need big man depth, if they go cap space route, big Val may be available for the room exception.
The cap space should go on a big forward, the usual 3 suspects:
Siakam (not the best fit, but he's a great 2nd/3rd option)
OG (SGA/JDub/Dort/OG with Chet rim protection is an absolute terror)
Tobias
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Re: OKC Summer Plan 

Post#49 » by BlazersBroncos » Tue Apr 2, 2024 2:46 pm

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NYG wrote:Would OKC make the king's ransom offer for Lauri? I don't see who is a legitimate consolidation option.

The time for that was at the deadline, now it's too complicated because of the contract.

They obviousely need big man depth, if they go cap space route, big Val may be available for the room exception.
The cap space should go on a big forward, the usual 3 suspects:
Siakam (not the best fit, but he's a great 2nd/3rd option)
OG (SGA/JDub/Dort/OG with Chet rim protection is an absolute terror)
Tobias


I think Tobias will be much more available than Pascal and OG. If PHI keys in on poaching PG13, whether they get him or whether it eats some early FA time and puts Toby in a spot to test the waters, then I could see OKC making a move for him.

He is a bit of a master of none but he has size, isnt a horrible defender, moves the ball well and certainly checks the character boxes that OKC has seemed to prioritize lately. Paying him big for 3 years w/ a TO on year 3 would be a nice move assuming Josh is a big enough team first guy to be OK with a 6th man role, which he may be as that would put the ball in his hands alot which is where he is best.

Move Kenrich to a cap space team to create more space. Sign Tobias, trade Dieng + FRP for WCJ, draft Dalton w/ the HOU FRP.

G - Shai Gilgeous-Alexander / Cason Wallace
G - Lou Dort / Isaiah Joe / Aaron Wiggins
F - Jalen Williams / Dalton Knetch / Aaron Wiggins
F - Tobias Harris / Josh Giddey
F - Chet Holmgren / Wendell Carter JR / Jaylin Williams
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Re: OKC Summer Plan 

Post#50 » by Skybox » Tue Apr 2, 2024 3:32 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:
NYG wrote:Would OKC make the king's ransom offer for Lauri? I don't see who is a legitimate consolidation option.

The time for that was at the deadline, now it's too complicated because of the contract.

They obviousely need big man depth, if they go cap space route, big Val may be available for the room exception.
The cap space should go on a big forward, the usual 3 suspects:
Siakam (not the best fit, but he's a great 2nd/3rd option)
OG (SGA/JDub/Dort/OG with Chet rim protection is an absolute terror)
Tobias


I think Tobias will be much more available than Pascal and OG. If PHI keys in on poaching PG13, whether they get him or whether it eats some early FA time and puts Toby in a spot to test the waters, then I could see OKC making a move for him.

He is a bit of a master of none but he has size, isnt a horrible defender, moves the ball well and certainly checks the character boxes that OKC has seemed to prioritize lately. Paying him big for 3 years w/ a TO on year 3 would be a nice move assuming Josh is a big enough team first guy to be OK with a 6th man role, which he may be as that would put the ball in his hands alot which is where he is best.

Move Kenrich to a cap space team to create more space. Sign Tobias, trade Dieng + FRP for WCJ, draft Dalton w/ the HOU FRP.

G - Shai Gilgeous-Alexander / Cason Wallace
G - Lou Dort / Isaiah Joe / Aaron Wiggins
F - Jalen Williams / Dalton Knetch / Aaron Wiggins
F - Tobias Harris / Josh Giddey
F - Chet Holmgren / Wendell Carter JR / Jaylin Williams


I love WCJ's fit on OKC, but I don't think ORL's moving him for Dieng and/or a pick...make it Isaiah Joe & a pick (assuming Cason is off the table) and it makes some sense from ORL side.
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Re: OKC Summer Plan 

Post#51 » by slick_watts » Tue Apr 2, 2024 3:47 pm

the biggest need for the thunder is in the starting lineup. they have an elite team but their starters don't perform like the starters on elite teams tend to.

the dream is to acquire a player who is a better fit than josh giddey. i really like the idea of overpaying tobias harris for a couple years. would he turn down, like 2 years, $65 million? 2 years, $70 million? thunder should have the cap space to do something along those lines, it would balance out their starters.

i think it would be a mistake to put chet next to a traditional big man. he is a center.
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Re: OKC Summer Plan 

Post#52 » by pipfan » Tue Apr 2, 2024 4:00 pm

This is why OKC should do Dieng for Vuc/Caruso

Chet starts at center. Vuc is a great bum-slaying C off the bench, and they can play together some. Vuc's contract is up when Williams/Chet are ready for a big raise

Caruso can guard 1-4 and is shooting well-any team would love to have him.
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Re: OKC Summer Plan 

Post#53 » by BlazersBroncos » Tue Apr 2, 2024 5:48 pm

pipfan wrote:This is why OKC should do Dieng for Vuc/Caruso

Chet starts at center. Vuc is a great bum-slaying C off the bench, and they can play together some. Vuc's contract is up when Williams/Chet are ready for a big raise

Caruso can guard 1-4 and is shooting well-any team would love to have him.


Vuc just doesnt seem like a guy Presti would bring in - he really isnt a good 3PT shooter, isnt a good defender and seems to get his raw stats from high usage rather than any sort of efficiency.

Caruso is a great player but where does he fit with OKC having SGA, Cason, Dort, Joe, Wiggins, Jalen all capable of playing 1 or 2 of the spots that Alex plays (The guard spots obv).

Just dont see it.

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