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Post#1821 » by ArthurVandelay » Thu Apr 4, 2024 3:16 pm

Saul Goodman wrote:Let’s say the raptors win the number one pick… would you do this deal ? Considering the mystery of the draft would I think I’d love 3 swings in the upper half of the 1st round


#1 pick
#31 pick

For Portland for

#6
#13


Pick Matas Buzelis Isiah collier and Zach Edey


I wouldn’t. Sarr my guy at #1
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Post#1822 » by PoundTown » Thu Apr 4, 2024 3:23 pm

There is options I like at 31, at least guys that can be rotation players/ good backups.

Hunter sailis and Tyler kolek are guys I like; haven’t seen much of anything about klintman, but he’s intriguing. Maybe one thinks they can teach Dunn a jump shot. Somebody always falls to that spot as well.
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Post#1823 » by Psubs » Thu Apr 4, 2024 3:39 pm

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ATLTimekeeper wrote:Indy pick I am okay with Edey, Furphy, Carter, Knecht.

Ron Holland if he slides.


Knect solidified himself to go around #5-13 with the tournament play.

a 23 year old scorer who can't play any defense going top-10 is amazing to me but this draft is so bad, what can you do.


I get the below average defense but he's like Tyler Herro but stronger.

Utah could get Knect at #8 as they are close to fighting for a playoff spot.

PG Clarkson - Sexton
SG George - Sexton - Knect
SF Knect - Hendricks - Sensabaugh
PF Markkanen - Collins - Lofton
C Kessler - Markkanen - Yutseven
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Post#1824 » by Psubs » Thu Apr 4, 2024 3:48 pm

Saul Goodman wrote:Let’s say the raptors win the number one pick… would you do this deal ? Considering the mystery of the draft would I think I’d love 3 swings in the upper half of the 1st round


#1 pick
#31 pick

For Portland for

#6
#13


Pick Matas Buzelis Isiah collier and Zach Edey


#1 Sarr
#16 Bub Carrington (Collier should still be there at the Pacers pick, maybe McCain or Devin Carter)
#31 Tristan DaSilva

Sarr could be KG, I don't think that Buzelis aka Charlie Villanueva 2.0 downgrading is worth whoever you get at #13 minus #31.
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Post#1825 » by God Squad » Thu Apr 4, 2024 3:51 pm

PoundTown wrote:There is options I like at 31, at least guys that can be rotation players/ good backups.

Hunter sailis and Tyler kolek are guys I like; haven’t seen much of anything about klintman, but he’s intriguing. Maybe one thinks they can teach Dunn a jump shot. Somebody always falls to that spot as well.

Salis seems like a solid bet to be a rotation player. Probably at the top of my list in terms of 2nd rounders.

Solid advanced stats.
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Post#1826 » by gerrit4 » Thu Apr 4, 2024 4:10 pm

Saul Goodman wrote:Let’s say the raptors win the number one pick… would you do this deal ? Considering the mystery of the draft would I think I’d love 3 swings in the upper half of the 1st round


#1 pick
#31 pick

For Portland for

#6
#13


Pick Matas Buzelis Isiah collier and Zach Edey


I think we know that our front office is not particularly high on this draft, and really don't seem to want multiple first round picks. At least with a second round pick, there's a lower salary and less guaranteed money. To my eyes, the guys available in the #31 aren't really worlds behind the guys in the teens either.

If our FO doesn't see a clear cut #1, I could see them doing something like #1 and the pacers pick (let's say #18) for #6 and a 2025 pick.
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Post#1827 » by Rodrickle » Thu Apr 4, 2024 4:56 pm

Psubs wrote:
TimeForChange wrote:
Psubs wrote:
Knect solidified himself to go around #5-13 with the tournament play.

a 23 year old scorer who can't play any defense going top-10 is amazing to me but this draft is so bad, what can you do.


I get the below average defense but he's like Tyler Herro but stronger.

Utah could get Knect at #8 as they are close to fighting for a playoff spot.

PG Clarkson - Sexton
SG George - Sexton - Knect
SF Knect - Hendricks - Sensabaugh
PF Markkanen - Collins - Lofton
C Kessler - Markkanen - Yutseven


Unless George takes a huge step in his sophmore season, that team looks pretty garbage to me. But also not garbage enough to get a top 5 pick. Knecht doesn't look like a starter to me. Good rotation player though
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Post#1828 » by Psubs » Thu Apr 4, 2024 5:28 pm

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Psubs wrote:
TimeForChange wrote:a 23 year old scorer who can't play any defense going top-10 is amazing to me but this draft is so bad, what can you do.


I get the below average defense but he's like Tyler Herro but stronger.

Utah could get Knect at #8 as they are close to fighting for a playoff spot.

PG George - Sexton
SG Clarkson - Sexton - Knect
SF Knect - Hendricks - Sensabaugh
PF Markkanen - Collins - Lofton
C Kessler - Markkanen - Yutseven


Unless George takes a huge step in his sophmore season, that team looks pretty garbage to me. But also not garbage enough to get a top 5 pick. Knecht doesn't look like a starter to me. Good rotation player though


Actually George might be the PG with an almost 2 A/T. He's shooting over 33% from 3. That's not bad going from college to NBA distance. His 85% FT has me thinking he'll bring up his FG% with more experience. If he doesn't evolve, at worst he's Jordan Poole.

He might shoot 40/34/85 next year and put up 14ppg.
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Post#1829 » by WuTang_CMB » Thu Apr 4, 2024 5:38 pm

Read on Twitter
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Post#1830 » by ATLTimekeeper » Thu Apr 4, 2024 5:57 pm

Psubs wrote:
ATLTimekeeper wrote:Indy pick I am okay with Edey, Furphy, Carter, Knecht.

Ron Holland if he slides.


Knect solidified himself to go around #5-13 with the tournament play.

I liked Furphy but feel that he tops out at a glue guy starter but not like he'll develop better than Tristan DaSilva so not wasting money and time on Furphy and get the more advanced player now to go with Scottie.

What if Cody Williams is available and #6, and OKC would like to nab Jalen's brother? They did make a trade moving up 2 spaces to get Cason Wallace.

#6 and McDaniels for #12, Ousmane Dieng and 2025 1st pick (top 4 protected)? OKC would still have Houston's 1st pick next year.

Or expand the trade to send Poeltl and get Jaylin Williams? I really liked Jaylin Williams pre-draft. Now he shoots 80% FTs and shoots the 3 better than Pascal already. He's a great backup PF/C with an A/T of over 2. OKC needs a bigger C now, so Chet can play PF.


I don't see Da Silva as a good bet to be an NBA rotation player, so I'd go with the (much) younger kid who is a shooter first.
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Post#1831 » by grant101 » Thu Apr 4, 2024 5:58 pm

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ok il take it


This would be a great haul! Just replace Bobi with Hansen Yang or a more consistent big shooter/ball-mover (e.g. Karaban, Furphy), and the entire complexion of the team changes next year.
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Post#1832 » by Kevin Willis » Thu Apr 4, 2024 7:21 pm

Can we draft Caitlin Clark? I heard great things from that player.
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Post#1833 » by GoRapstheoriginal » Thu Apr 4, 2024 7:30 pm

Kevin Willis wrote:Can we draft Caitlin Clark? I heard great things from that player.

Ditto
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Post#1834 » by bballsparkin » Thu Apr 4, 2024 7:43 pm

TimeForChange wrote:New Ringer big board.

Finally someone smart enough to realize Risacher should not be a top pick.

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/


Why is it you don't like him? Defence?

Welcome to The Ringer's 2024 NBA Draft Guide. Looking at this year's draft class is like heading to your favorite steakhouse only to find out they’re out of steak.


This is a weak analogy. There is steak in the steakhouse. It might be a t-bone (Sarr), rather than some fancy grass fed Japanese one (Wemby), but it's still a steak. This is just another example of how all over the place this draft is. With our scouting department and the high international content I like our odds should the Raptors retain a top 6 pick this June.
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Post#1835 » by ArthurVandelay » Thu Apr 4, 2024 8:30 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:
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ok il take it


I really want to know what is going on with Risacher.

Did he play above himself to start the year and now we are getting revision to the mean?

Is he injured?

Is he sulking over role?

Is he just doing what they are telling him to do?

Have other teams figured him out?

Regardless, it’s wild to see his play slide like this.
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Post#1836 » by S.W.A.N » Thu Apr 4, 2024 9:22 pm

So I haven't read far enough back to see if anyone already talking about this... But if we ended up with the sixth pick I'd be taking a longgggggggg look at Donavan Clingan. . I'd prefer Sarr, if we managed to get really lucky, but if we wanted to solidify our frontcourt this not a bad option. Jak and Kelly for next two years while Jak mentors his long term replacement/backup.

His combination of physical traits and college stats makes him arguably the most sure thing in this draft.

Not advocating for it, but pointing out it could be a real chance we'd do it.
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Post#1837 » by VanWest82 » Thu Apr 4, 2024 9:41 pm

S.W.A.N wrote:So I haven't read far enough back to see if anyone already talking about this... But if we ended up with the sixth pick I'd be taking a longgggggggg look at Donavan Clingan. . I'd prefer Sarr, if we managed to get really lucky, but if we wanted to solidify our frontcourt this not a bad option. Jak and Kelly for next two years while Jak mentors his long term replacement/backup.

His combination of physical traits and college stats makes him arguably the most sure thing in this draft.

Not advocating for it, but pointing out it could be a real chance we'd do it.

Givony has Clingan going 3rd overall which means that's what some not-so-small sampling of FOs think.
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Post#1838 » by grimlock » Thu Apr 4, 2024 9:55 pm

I like Dalton Knecht. he's got the "IT" factor. Need some swag
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Post#1839 » by tecumseh18 » Thu Apr 4, 2024 10:04 pm

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S.W.A.N wrote:So I haven't read far enough back to see if anyone already talking about this... But if we ended up with the sixth pick I'd be taking a longgggggggg look at Donavan Clingan. . I'd prefer Sarr, if we managed to get really lucky, but if we wanted to solidify our frontcourt this not a bad option. Jak and Kelly for next two years while Jak mentors his long term replacement/backup.

His combination of physical traits and college stats makes him arguably the most sure thing in this draft.

Not advocating for it, but pointing out it could be a real chance we'd do it.

Givony has Clingan going 3rd overall which means that's what some not-so-small sampling of FOs think.


Is it stupid to even bother trying to rank Clingan before Perdue and U. Conn inevitably meet? That has the potential to be epic.

I would very much like another legit C, or a guy who can become one. That's not really Olynyk's game. He's a back up PF. When Poeltl gets injured, this team goes to hell. Clingan at least will shoot a 3 on occasion. If he's willing to work on that part of his game in a way Jak clearly isn't, then by all means draft him (not #1, tho).

But I want to see Clingan shut down Edey first. Actually, I don't want to see that. I'd prefer the opposite, and then figure out how high Zach should go.
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Post#1840 » by VanWest82 » Thu Apr 4, 2024 10:12 pm

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S.W.A.N wrote:So I haven't read far enough back to see if anyone already talking about this... But if we ended up with the sixth pick I'd be taking a longgggggggg look at Donavan Clingan. . I'd prefer Sarr, if we managed to get really lucky, but if we wanted to solidify our frontcourt this not a bad option. Jak and Kelly for next two years while Jak mentors his long term replacement/backup.

His combination of physical traits and college stats makes him arguably the most sure thing in this draft.

Not advocating for it, but pointing out it could be a real chance we'd do it.

Givony has Clingan going 3rd overall which means that's what some not-so-small sampling of FOs think.


Is it stupid to even bother trying to rank Clingan before Perdue and U. Conn inevitably meet? That has the potential to be epic.

I would very much like another legit C, or a guy who can become one. That's not really Olynyk's game. He's a back up PF. When Poeltl gets injured, this team goes to hell. Clingan at least will shoot a 3 on occasion. If he's willing to work on that part of his game in a way Jak clearly isn't, then by all means draft him (not #1, tho).

But I want to see Clingan shut down Edey first. Actually, I don't want to see that. I'd prefer the opposite, and then figure out how high Zach should go.

Short answer: No. How many Zach Edeys are there in NBA? Not many. Edey is a guy who's going to get played off the court in a bunch of NBA match ups. Clingan's value (in theory) is that he won't. I'm skeptical of Clingan in that way as well - not enough foot speed or change-of-direction ability - but at least he has a chance. Also, Clingan has the same problem Poeltl has: he can't shoot.

I agree we need a back up C but Jak is going to be way better than either of those guys over the next few years. Hopefully, we get a better upside guy assuming that exists in this draft.

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