Trade of Brooks (Milwaukee - Houston)

[QMemphis]

If Milwaukee could legally get Adams back in the deal, I like it. But I don’t see it for Milwaukee honestly. I’d want to know what center is replacing Brook, because the team is very limited and I wouldn’t want to bank on Portis/Giannis center rotation.

For Houston, they can aggregate Adams salary and upgrade Brooks else where, while using Lopez as a 16-20mpg backup and big minutes when needed. He’s better than that, but maybe the reduced role extends his career..

Probably a bad idea.. but with these two teams

what does Houston add in a Middleton/Brooks swap? They’d likely have had to decide in maxing Sengun early and moving on from the potential 2025 free agent market I understand..

But between whatever Houston adds in that trade, Milwaukee’s own 2024 first and Portland’s 2024 second.. can Milwaukee use the small 8.7mil TPE in a way that makes the deal worthwhile?

What about 3 way deal of

Kennard + Aldama to Houston
Brooks to Milwaukee
Lopez to Memphis

Houston gets shooting and a servicable pf behind jabari, capspace in 2025

Houston is already getting some cap space in 2025.

I have them at 113 Million with Green/Sengun each at 30 Million.

My guess is they try and negotiate each of them this summer, but I have a hard time seeing Houston letting both Green and Sengun hit RFA following the 2024-2025 season.

Memphis gets starting C

This is a no-brainer for Memphis since they give up 0 value for a good starting Center. They need to add something here.

Not a fan of trading two rotation players for a guy that won’t finish games for us. Brook in theory makes sense but we honestly may be looking for a starting PF rather than Center.

[Colbinii]

Not a fan of trading two rotation players for a guy that won’t finish games for us. Brook in theory makes sense but we honestly may be looking for a starting PF rather than Center.

Why couldn't Brook finish games for Memphis?

[QMemphis]

Not a fan of trading two rotation players for a guy that won’t finish games for us. Brook in theory makes sense but we honestly may be looking for a starting PF rather than Center.

Why couldn't Brook finish games for Memphis?

He isn’t good enough to finish over Clark and is double the cost. I could see us targeting a PF and moving Jaren to Center full time.

[Colbinii]

Not a fan of trading two rotation players for a guy that won’t finish games for us. Brook in theory makes sense but we honestly may be looking for a starting PF rather than Center.

Why couldn't Brook finish games for Memphis?

He isn’t good enough to finish over Clark and is double the cost. I could see us targeting a PF and moving Jaren to Center full time.

He has been a better player than Clark over the past few seasons. It is possible his age finally catches up to him, but Brook Lopez has qualities which allows him to fit better with Memphis and close games with Memphis.

[QMemphis]

Why couldn't Brook finish games for Memphis?

He isn’t good enough to finish over Clark and is double the cost. I could see us targeting a PF and moving Jaren to Center full time.

He has been a better player than Clark over the past few seasons. It is possible his age finally catches up to him, but Brook Lopez has qualities which allows him to fit better with Memphis and close games with Memphis.

You are not hearing what I’m saying we likely are not targeting a center. Lopez due to salary, inability to switch and age is likely not a fit for us.

[Colbinii]

He isn’t good enough to finish over Clark and is double the cost. I could see us targeting a PF and moving Jaren to Center full time.

He has been a better player than Clark over the past few seasons. It is possible his age finally catches up to him, but Brook Lopez has qualities which allows him to fit better with Memphis and close games with Memphis.

You are not hearing what I’m saying we likely are not targeting a center. Lopez due to salary, inability to switch and age is likely not a fit for us.

Why would you need to switch?

Ja isn't an ideal switch defender. With Smart and Bane you could easily employ a defensive strategy similar to Minnesota, with elite shot blocking at the back-end and having your wings take up air space on the perimeter.

[QMemphis]

He has been a better player than Clark over the past few seasons. It is possible his age finally catches up to him, but Brook Lopez has qualities which allows him to fit better with Memphis and close games with Memphis.

You are not hearing what I’m saying we likely are not targeting a center. Lopez due to salary, inability to switch and age is likely not a fit for us.

Why would you need to switch?

Ja isn't an ideal switch defender. With Smart and Bane you could easily employ a defensive strategy similar to Minnesota, with elite shot blocking at the back-end and having your wings take up air space on the perimeter.

I’ve explained why it’s a no. Not sure what else you want me to explain further lol.

[Colbinii]

You are not hearing what I’m saying we likely are not targeting a center. Lopez due to salary, inability to switch and age is likely not a fit for us.

Why would you need to switch?

Ja isn't an ideal switch defender. With Smart and Bane you could easily employ a defensive strategy similar to Minnesota, with elite shot blocking at the back-end and having your wings take up air space on the perimeter.

I’ve explained why it’s a no. Not sure what else you want me to explain further lol.

"Memphis is going to switch, so we don't want Brook"

Yet your team isn't built on switching.

[QMemphis]

Why would you need to switch?

Ja isn't an ideal switch defender. With Smart and Bane you could easily employ a defensive strategy similar to Minnesota, with elite shot blocking at the back-end and having your wings take up air space on the perimeter.

I’ve explained why it’s a no. Not sure what else you want me to explain further lol.

"Memphis is going to switch, so we don't want Brook"

Yet your team isn't built on switching.

That literally is one of the reasons I listed. How many Grizz games have you watched ?

[Colbinii]

I’ve explained why it’s a no. Not sure what else you want me to explain further lol.

"Memphis is going to switch, so we don't want Brook"

Yet your team isn't built on switching.

That literally is one of the reasons I listed. How many Grizz games have you watched ?

I have watched every playoff series of theirs since they have had Ja.

[QMemphis]

"Memphis is going to switch, so we don't want Brook"

Yet your team isn't built on switching.

That literally is one of the reasons I listed. How many Grizz games have you watched ?

I have watched every playoff series of theirs since they have had Ja.

The exact reason why I’m going to stop entertaining you lol. You think because what you have seen in the playoffs makes sense for the Grizz they should do it. That’s fine; until a fan of that Grizz offers a reason why we aren’t interested and you feel that your opinion is more valid. I watch every game even in this season and know that we have moved to a more 5 out concept with every one being able to handle the ball. Not to mention I just watched Jaren cook Lopez just last week for 35 ( 10 scored on consecutive possessions). If we want a drop big we can get one cheaper and younger. Based on Jaren playing center for the last 5 months I think we bring a big who can play the 4 but who can handle the ball, create a bit, and also rebound which Brook has never been known for.

[Xanadu]

That literally is one of the reasons I listed. How many Grizz games have you watched ?

I have watched every playoff series of theirs since they have had Ja.

The exact reason why I’m going to stop entertaining you lol. You think because what you have seen in the playoffs makes sense for the Grizz they should do it. That’s fine; until a fan of that Grizz offers a reason why we aren’t interested and you feel that your opinion is more valid. I watch every game even in this season and know that we have moved to a more 5 out concept with every one being able to handle the ball. Not to mention I just watched Jaren cook Lopez just last week for 35 ( 10 scored on consecutive possessions). If we want a drop big we can get one cheaper and younger. Based on Jaren playing center for the last 5 months I think we bring a big who can play the 4 but who can handle the ball, create a bit, and also rebound which Brook has never been known for.

Despite being a Bucks fan and having almost 0 grizzlies watching experience I see Lopez as an ideal fit on paper. His ability to space the floor while being a fantastic low post defender would unlock JJJ as help defender/roamer. Also although Lopez's rebound numbers are low his impact on tesm rebounding is massive. His ability to box out and just take up spaces allows guys like JA and JJJ to get easy boards and push the tempo. I understand the desire to have s closing lineup with capability to switch easily. It's definitely seen as the best defense of you have plus size and speed 1-5. But rarely does it every pan out. There is always a switch that will create a mismatch that's exploited. Your teams best defensive potential needs to match your personnel not some fanatsy. If you Play Lopez as a box defender and place JJJ on the weakest permiter player it basically gives you a help defender capable of erasing whole halfs of the court. His length and speed would make it ridiculous. Then you just put smart on the primer ball carrier and suddenly you have the making of a top 3 d. Having said all that as a Grizz fan I wouldn't be looking to add Lopez unless it comes chesply then his value is.

[Mamba4Goat]

I wonder if there is any grudge held on Houston’s end towards BroLo. It sounded like they made a hefty amount of cap clearing moves under the impression that he’d be signing there only for him to return to Milwaukee. If there was any type of agreement and he backed out I’d imagine that that bridge is burnt.