2023-24 NBA Season Discussion

jalengreen · Post #2221 » by **jalengreen** » Sun Apr 21, 2024 1:55 am

LukaTheGOAT wrote:
LukaTheGOAT wrote:Get well Embiid.

Embiid:

https://youtu.be/w8z_5ZtPzWI?si=wz0eO6GtpryjoVtG

Was so off in that 4th quarter tho

Peregrine01 · Post #2222 » by **Peregrine01** » Sun Apr 21, 2024 4:15 am

The way Bron came out of the gates like Goku pretty much guaranteed that he’d be gassed the rest of the way. Both him and AD could hardly even run down the court toward the end.

Dutchball97 · Post #2223 » by **Dutchball97** » Sun Apr 21, 2024 8:55 am

Snap judgement from just 1 game but a potential second round match up between the Nuggets and Wolves could very well be the best and most competitive series we get all play-offs.

On another note though it's a shame that half the teams next up might be without their best player on opening night (Butler, Zion, Giannis and Kawhi).

GSP · Post #2224 » by **GSP** » Sun Apr 21, 2024 10:19 am

Dutchball97 wrote:Snap judgement from just 1 game but a potential second round match up between the Nuggets and Wolves could very well be the best and most competitive series we get all play-offs.

On another note though it's a shame that half the teams next up might be without their best player on opening night (Butler, Zion, Giannis and Kawhi).

That series last year was dangerously close to going 6. Just 1 possession loss for Wolves and they didnt have Naz or Jaden in that series. Denver couldnt guard Ant at all and they had everyone available . Murray wouldnt have the series he did if Jaden was healthy Imo

Statlanta · Post #2225 » by **Statlanta** » Sun Apr 21, 2024 1:33 pm

I’d say Wolves-Nuggets determines the Championship.

Post #2226 » by **Texas Chuck** » Sun Apr 21, 2024 1:52 pm

So neither Denver nor Minnesota have even advanced yet, Boston hasn't been eliminated yet (among literally every other team) and you guys are awarding the title to the winner of a matchup we might not even get? I mean we all said this about the winner of SA/Dallas in 2006 2nd round and Miami won the title.

Denver maybe deserves that kind of expectation. Minny hasn't earned that yet. Phoenix is a flawed shallow team and one of their stars didn't bother showing up for game 1. Hardly makes the Wolves a juggernaut. If you can't beat Phoenix at home with a starter missing a half and only KD doing anything....

LukaTheGOAT · Post #2227 » by **LukaTheGOAT** » Sun Apr 21, 2024 4:18 pm

Minnesota is the only hope of slowing Denver. I have no faith in the Celtics to be anything but punching bags to further increase the lore of how good this Nuggets team ia.

Jurassic_Park · Post #2228 » by **Jurassic_Park** » Sun Apr 21, 2024 5:53 pm

Peregrine01 wrote:In spurts, bron still looks like the best player in the game.

You must be watching old youtube videos or something…

prolific passer · Post #2229 » by **prolific passer** » Sun Apr 21, 2024 7:02 pm

Denver might be like those pistons of the mid 2000s if they keep that starting 5 together and be in the hunt for the title year after year.

eminence · Post #2230 » by **eminence** » Sun Apr 21, 2024 8:14 pm

Surprised the Clippers are giving Dallas the business so far. We'll see if it holds.

eminence · Post #2231 » by **eminence** » Sun Apr 21, 2024 8:43 pm

Certainly held to half. 8 pts in the 2nd quarter is ugly.

GSP · Post #2232 » by **GSP** » Sun Apr 21, 2024 9:11 pm

Feels weird to see playoff Luka play this horribly on both ends. He hasnt had many in the playoffs

Statlanta · Post #2233 » by **Statlanta** » Sun Apr 21, 2024 9:13 pm

Playoff Mavs looking bad because they didn't make the playoffs last season. Came completely unprepared and Ty Lue pantsed Jason Kidd.

NBA4Lyfe · Post #2234 » by **NBA4Lyfe** » Sun Apr 21, 2024 9:14 pm

GSP wrote:Feels weird to see playoff Luka play this horribly on both ends. He hasnt had many in the playoffs

last time james harden lost in the 1st round of the playoffs was vs the 73 win warriors.. somethings gotta give

eminence · Post #2235 » by **eminence** » Sun Apr 21, 2024 10:15 pm

Mavs came out and looked fine in the 2nd half, but the hole was way too big. Very nice by the Clippers, still don't love their chances without Kawhi, hope he's back for game 2.

AEnigma · Post #2236 » by **AEnigma** » Sun Apr 21, 2024 10:15 pm

NBA4Lyfe wrote:
GSP wrote:Feels weird to see playoff Luka play this horribly on both ends. He hasnt had many in the playoffs

last time james harden lost in the 1st round of the playoffs was vs the 73 win warriors.. somethings gotta give

You earned the right to jaw a bit about Harden versus Luka today, but he lost to a Warriors team that had Steph play 38 minutes total. :noway:

eminence · Post #2237 » by **eminence** » Sun Apr 21, 2024 10:18 pm

AEnigma wrote:
NBA4Lyfe wrote:
GSP wrote:Feels weird to see playoff Luka play this horribly on both ends. He hasnt had many in the playoffs

last time james harden lost in the 1st round of the playoffs was vs the 73 win warriors.. somethings gotta give

You earned the right to jaw a bit about Harden versus Luka today, but he lost to a Warriors team that had Steph play 38 minutes total.

Lost might be an understatement, the Rockets got absolutely worked in that series.

MartinToVaught · Post #2238 » by **MartinToVaught** » Sun Apr 21, 2024 10:44 pm

Statlanta wrote:Playoff Mavs looking bad because they didn't make the playoffs last season. Came completely unprepared and Ty Lue pantsed Jason Kidd.

Obviously the series is far from over, but rather than what happened last season, I think what might be coming back to bite them is letting Carlisle go. In my opinion, his constant adjustments on the fly were second only to Luka's play in reasons why our first two matchups were so competitive. Kidd is a huge downgrade by comparison. I think Dallas would have won today or at least lost by a much closer margin with Carlisle.

lessthanjake · Post #2239 » by **lessthanjake** » Sun Apr 21, 2024 10:58 pm

I think peoples’ default assumption should be that the team with a 10+ SRS will win the title. Especially when they’re sitting in the weaker conference.

This is a team with the 5th-highest SRS in league history (behind only the 1971 Bucks, 1972 Lakers, 1996 Bulls, and 2017 Warriors). I believe they are also tied with the 2017 Warriors for the 3rd highest net rating in league history (behind only the 1996 and 1997 Bulls). I do think it’s possible it’s a mirage, given that it’s partially a result of their deep bench doing super well, and meanwhile their clutch stats haven’t been very good. So maybe when they get to playoff games where deep-bench quality doesn’t matter and crunch-time deficiencies really do, they’ll turn out to be a paper tiger. But it’s just really hard to have much doubt in a team with that kind of regular-season team success.

Statlanta · Post #2240 » by **Statlanta** » Sun Apr 21, 2024 11:15 pm

lessthanjake wrote:I think peoples’ default assumption should be that the team with a 10+ SRS will win the title. Especially when they’re sitting in the weaker conference.

This is a team with the 5th-highest SRS in league history (behind only the 1971 Bucks, 1972 Lakers, 1996 Bulls, and 2017 Warriors). I believe they are also tied with the 2017 Warriors for the 3rd highest net rating in league history (behind only the 1996 and 1997 Bulls). I do think it’s possible it’s a mirage, given that it’s partially a result of their deep bench doing super well, and meanwhile their clutch stats haven’t been very good. So maybe when they get to playoff games where deep-bench quality doesn’t matter and crunch-time deficiencies really do, they’ll turn out to be a paper tiger. But it’s just really hard to have much doubt in a team with that kind of regular-season team success.

I think a 10 SRS means less the further we go away from the early 2000s. Teams can make 3's now so the RS dominance, Strength of Schedule and Net Rating means less. Hell it's why the first 10 SRS team to fail, the 2016 Warriors, is in this era(discounting the 2 10 SRS 70's teams that met in the Finals so one had to lose).

I believe in this and the fact that the Eastern Conference just has less competition in general boosting their stats.