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Around the NBA (and other Sports), 2023-24, Part 3

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Re: Around the NBA (and other Sports), 2023-24, Part 3 

Post#601 » by Smart2Nesmith43 » Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:08 am

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What was the last one? Can’t remember any.


You can’t remember any close wins in the playoffs? Really?

Stop it lol.


I remember significantly more losses than wins.

Last year the close one in round 1 we lost to Trae Young.
Vs Philly we lost a close game 1, lost a close game game 4 where we pissed ourselves multiple times, games 1 and 2 vs Miami we got smoked by Jimmy Butler in the clutch..the Derrick White one was the only one we got and that was more survival than anything as we were pissing ourselves hard until that put back. Had like a 9 pt lead with 4 min left and almost gave it away.

This team has nearly nothing in the clutch.

In clutch playoff games the Celtics were 5-6 last year. 7-5 in 2021-2022. 1-0 in 2020-2021. 6-7 in 2019-2020. 3-1 in 2018-2019. 5-3 in 2017-2018. That's 27-22 in the Tatum era. If you remember more losses than wins then you have a faulty memory.
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Post#602 » by Fierce1 » Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:09 am

Everybody here agrees that the Heat are way superior to Boston when it comes to talent.

So why should the Celtics not sweep them every year?

It's just a case of the Celtics not playing to their full potential.

And stop pretending that the poll didn't say the Celtics will sweep the Heat.
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Post#603 » by tfmiii » Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:10 am

Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:
BRUNiNHO91 wrote:
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You can’t remember any close wins in the playoffs? Really?

Stop it lol.


I remember significantly more losses than wins.

Last year the close one in round 1 we lost to Trae Young.
Vs Philly we lost a close game 1, lost a close game game 4 where we pissed ourselves multiple times, games 1 and 2 vs Miami we got smoked by Jimmy Butler in the clutch..the Derrick White one was the only one we got and that was more survival than anything as we were pissing ourselves hard until that put back. Had like a 9 pt lead with 4 min left and almost gave it away.

This team has nearly nothing in the clutch.

In clutch playoff games the Celtics were 5-6 last year. 7-5 in 2021-2022. 1-0 in 2020-2021. 6-7 in 2019-2020. 3-1 in 2018-2019. 5-3 in 2017-2018. That's 27-22 in the Tatum era. If you remember more losses than wins then you have a faulty memory.

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Post#604 » by Fierce1 » Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:10 am

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2372972

Check out that link.

Celtics sweeping the Heat won in the poll.

The poll was rigged?
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Post#605 » by Shak_Celts » Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:12 am

I was wrong about Dallas, they are doing things on D. Still out on JKidd.
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Post#606 » by zoyathedestroya » Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:12 am

Read on Twitter

Too huge a risk. Wtf were they doing?
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Post#607 » by zoyathedestroya » Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:13 am

Shak_Celts wrote:I was wrong about Dallas, they are doing things on D. Still out on JKidd.

They were the #1 defensive team for a large chunk towards end of season. Part of it is some teams have checked out but the trades they made really helped them on that end.
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Post#608 » by KillahGhostface » Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:14 am

zoyathedestroya wrote:
Read on Twitter

Too huge a risk. Wtf were they doing?


You gotta risk it to get the biscuit
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Post#609 » by Fierce1 » Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:16 am

KillahGhostface wrote:This CelticsPride18 guy is like bizarro Fierce1, just the same posts over and over.

Most of the people here do that.

It's not like guys like playa-hater does not keep repeating how bad Joe is and Triple7 always saying the same thing about how Tatum is not consistent, not mentally tough, etc.
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Post#610 » by Fierce1 » Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:16 am

KillahGhostface wrote:
zoyathedestroya wrote:
Read on Twitter

Too huge a risk. Wtf were they doing?


You gotta risk it to get the biscuit

Didn't I say Lame Time? :lol:
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Post#611 » by Triple7 » Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:22 am

KillahGhostface wrote:
BRUNiNHO91 wrote:
KillahGhostface wrote:
You can’t remember any close wins in the playoffs? Really?

Stop it lol.


I remember significantly more losses than wins.

Last year the close one in round 1 we lost to Trae Young.
Vs Philly we lost a close game 1, lost a close game game 4 where we pissed ourselves multiple times, games 1 and 2 vs Miami we got smoked by Jimmy Butler in the clutch..the Derrick White one was the only one we got and that was more survival than anything as we were pissing ourselves hard until that put back. Had like a 9 pt lead with 4 min left and almost gave it away.

This team has nearly nothing in the clutch.


I’m not arguing that they’ve been good in the clutch, but we’ve seen this core win a bunch of close playoff games. Heat game 6, Celtics blew the lead but still made the very kind of clutch play you described the Pacers and Bucks making. Sixers game 6, for sure. The season before they beat the Heat in a couple of close games, Bucks game 6 Tatum stopped every single Bucks attempt at a run, etc.

Celtics have shown very capable of winning playoff clutch games, they just been too susceptible to losing them lol.


We **** ourselves against the heat game 6. We have the lead and did our best to piss it away. Even fouling butler taking a 3pt shot, and we were up two. If not for the heroics of DWhite. The problem with the celtics, particularly JT, is consistency. You don’t know what you would get from him every playoff game. Just when everybody was ready to declare him one of the best, with chants of mvp after a stellar game, he goes lays an egg on the next one, having horrible 3pt field goals. I admit he has been a lot better this season, especially at attacking the rim, i would like to see some consistency night in night out. He always has some decent stats every game, but he’s been disappearing in the 4th when we needed him to take over, much especially against teams without their best player.
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Post#612 » by Bar Fight » Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:23 am

Kawhi on a minutes restriction or something? Dude barely played
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Post#613 » by Fierce1 » Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:24 am

Triple7 wrote:
KillahGhostface wrote:
BRUNiNHO91 wrote:
I remember significantly more losses than wins.

Last year the close one in round 1 we lost to Trae Young.
Vs Philly we lost a close game 1, lost a close game game 4 where we pissed ourselves multiple times, games 1 and 2 vs Miami we got smoked by Jimmy Butler in the clutch..the Derrick White one was the only one we got and that was more survival than anything as we were pissing ourselves hard until that put back. Had like a 9 pt lead with 4 min left and almost gave it away.

This team has nearly nothing in the clutch.


I’m not arguing that they’ve been good in the clutch, but we’ve seen this core win a bunch of close playoff games. Heat game 6, Celtics blew the lead but still made the very kind of clutch play you described the Pacers and Bucks making. Sixers game 6, for sure. The season before they beat the Heat in a couple of close games, Bucks game 6 Tatum stopped every single Bucks attempt at a run, etc.

Celtics have shown very capable of winning playoff clutch games, they just been too susceptible to losing them lol.


We **** ourselves against the heat game 6. We have the lead and did our best to piss it away. Even fouling butler taking a 3pt shot, and we were up two. If not for the heroics of DWhite. The problem with the celtics, particularly JT, is consistency. You don’t know what you would get from him every playoff game. Just when everybody was ready to declare him one of the best, with chants of mvp after a stellar game, he goes lays an egg on the next one, having horrible 3pt field goals. I admit he has been a lot better this season, especially at attacking the rim, i would like to see some consistency night in night out. He always has some decent stats every game, but he’s been disappearing in the 4th when we needed him to take over, much especially against teams without their best player.

Looks like we're on the same boat when it comes to posting same stuff over and over again. :lol:
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Post#614 » by Fierce1 » Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:24 am

Bar Fight wrote:Kawhi on a minutes restriction or something? Dude barely played

You're not winning anything if your best player is that fragile.
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Post#615 » by Triple7 » Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:26 am

zoyathedestroya wrote:
Read on Twitter

Too huge a risk. Wtf were they doing?


Looks like an easy conf finals appearance on whoever wins against the knicks and sixers. Though the pacers can be a scrappy opponent that can get hot on offense.
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Post#616 » by Smart2Nesmith43 » Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:27 am

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Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:
BRUNiNHO91 wrote:
I remember significantly more losses than wins.

Last year the close one in round 1 we lost to Trae Young.
Vs Philly we lost a close game 1, lost a close game game 4 where we pissed ourselves multiple times, games 1 and 2 vs Miami we got smoked by Jimmy Butler in the clutch..the Derrick White one was the only one we got and that was more survival than anything as we were pissing ourselves hard until that put back. Had like a 9 pt lead with 4 min left and almost gave it away.

This team has nearly nothing in the clutch.

In clutch playoff games the Celtics were 5-6 last year. 7-5 in 2021-2022. 1-0 in 2020-2021. 6-7 in 2019-2020. 3-1 in 2018-2019. 5-3 in 2017-2018. That's 27-22 in the Tatum era. If you remember more losses than wins then you have a faulty memory.

This is not the flex you may think it is

Nobody is flexing here. I'm just pushing back against a narrative that is objectively false. The Celtics win more than they lose in close games in the playoffs. Period. Now maybe you have unrealistic expectations about the number of games the Celtics should win in the clutch and you think that winning 55% of clutch games is not enough but that's another issue.

Over the same period, the Steph Curry Warriors won 54% of their clutch postseason games (playoff and play-in) and clutch god Jokic and his Nuggets are at 59%. Maybe just maybe it's hard to win tight playoff games for everybody not just the Jays.
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Post#617 » by Triple7 » Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:31 am

Fierce1 wrote:
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KillahGhostface wrote:
I’m not arguing that they’ve been good in the clutch, but we’ve seen this core win a bunch of close playoff games. Heat game 6, Celtics blew the lead but still made the very kind of clutch play you described the Pacers and Bucks making. Sixers game 6, for sure. The season before they beat the Heat in a couple of close games, Bucks game 6 Tatum stopped every single Bucks attempt at a run, etc.

Celtics have shown very capable of winning playoff clutch games, they just been too susceptible to losing them lol.


We **** ourselves against the heat game 6. We have the lead and did our best to piss it away. Even fouling butler taking a 3pt shot, and we were up two. If not for the heroics of DWhite. The problem with the celtics, particularly JT, is consistency. You don’t know what you would get from him every playoff game. Just when everybody was ready to declare him one of the best, with chants of mvp after a stellar game, he goes lays an egg on the next one, having horrible 3pt field goals. I admit he has been a lot better this season, especially at attacking the rim, i would like to see some consistency night in night out. He always has some decent stats every game, but he’s been disappearing in the 4th when we needed him to take over, much especially against teams without their best player.

Looks like we're on the same boat when it comes to posting same stuff over and over again. :lol:


Dude. At least what i’m saying is true.
You have been saying smack against the heat and their shooting since last playoffs, and yet they continue to prove you wrong. Leave those guys open, and they will knock those shots down. I don’t like Mazulla and his offense and defensive schemes, but i’ll give him a chance if he does something this game 3 and 4. Spo is just a genius. If we had Spo, no doubt in my mind we’d be champs.
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Post#618 » by Fierce1 » Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:32 am

Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:
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Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:In clutch playoff games the Celtics were 5-6 last year. 7-5 in 2021-2022. 1-0 in 2020-2021. 6-7 in 2019-2020. 3-1 in 2018-2019. 5-3 in 2017-2018. That's 27-22 in the Tatum era. If you remember more losses than wins then you have a faulty memory.

This is not the flex you may think it is

Nobody is flexing here. I'm just pushing back against a narrative that is objectively false. The Celtics win more than they lose in close games in the playoffs. Period. Now maybe you have unrealistic expectations about the number of games the Celtics should win in the clutch and you think that winning 55% of clutch games is not enough but that's another issue.

Over the same period, the Steph Curry Warriors won 54% of their clutch postseason games (playoff and play-in) and clutch god Jokic and his Nuggets are at 59%. Maybe just maybe it's hard to win tight playoff games for everybody not just the Jays.

No matter what number you're going to show, it's not going to be enough.

If it's 55%, there will be fans who will want 56% or 57% and so on.

A case of can't please everybody.
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Post#619 » by zoyathedestroya » Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:32 am

Triple7 wrote:
zoyathedestroya wrote:
Read on Twitter

Too huge a risk. Wtf were they doing?


Looks like an easy conf finals appearance on whoever wins against the knicks and sixers. Though the pacers can be a scrappy opponent that can get hot on offense.

If not for Spo, the other side of the bracket is much tougher than ours.
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Post#620 » by Shak_Celts » Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:32 am

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