Brewers 2025 Discussion - Frelick Activated, Black Sent Down

[Thunder Muscle]

How bout a zach grienke reunion? So what if he's cooked. Pat Murphy himself will be starting games soon

Kinda wonder if that happens too. He was definitely below average last year but the year before serviceable. Can maybe talk yourself into last year just being a bad year and maybe he can give you what he did in 2021-2022. But there is the reality he is 40 and may be done. He also is close to 3,000 strikeout mark which Crew could spin into celebration.

Who else are even FA options? I saw Syndergaard tossed out there. He was average in 2022 but otherwise subpar since in like 2018-2019. I’m going off ERA+.

Vince Velasquez on paper seems like be an option. Does he have something legally going on or an injury? Last year with Pittsburgh was 4-4, 3.86 era, 112 era+. He is 31.

Rest if the guys have some name value but don’t think have much in the tank. Bumgarner is 34 but hasn’t been good since his last year in SF in 2019. Dallas Keuchel hasn’t been good in 4-5 years either. Johnny Cueto was okay in 2022 with the White Sox but is 37/38 off a poor season.

At that point do you just try something in house like Janson Junk I guess.

[thonnisbeastley]

Time to consolidate some of our young position players into a SP. Wiemer + one of Monasterio, Dunn, or Miller. Feel like Miller and Monasterio have both been hosed out of playing time for Dunn and he's the weakest of the 3, despite his hot start. Would like to see more of Monasterio considering the season he put together last year, but I think Miller deserves that spot on the roster.

Wiemer, Monasterio, Dunn and a couple of prospects should be able to land us 2 decent SP for the back end of the rotation. I'd probably throw Quero in there as well to maximize return, while extending Contreras.

[Ron Swanson]

Yeah, not that we should be in immediate win-now mode or anything, but it would suck to waste this great start because we don't have a single, reliable innings-eater outside of Peralta in the starting rotation. There was always gonna be a position crunch with all these young outfielders, so maybe get out in front of it and see if you can flip a couple for a serviceable arm.

[Thunder Muscle]

I would not throw in Quero. His value is likely down a bit with the injury and rather wait & see on him. Contreras may need DH time at some point too.

I’m all for moving a young OF and/or 1 of the utility guys. Frelick probably nets the best return but I’m not high on moving him. Wiemer stock has to be plummeting with each MLB at bat. I was highest on him because offers some power but he looks like a mess at the plate. At this point Perkins may net a better return than Wiemer or Mitchell.

I’m indifferent to Dunn, Miller, Monasterio. All have their moments but also think all similar utility types. I think we could afford to move one.

But what does a Wiemer/Monasterio package really get you? Maybe more than I think if someone feels Wiemer just needs a fresh look.

[ReasonablySober]

Unless you're moving Sal, I don't think anyone is bringing back what the Brewers need.

[Thunder Muscle]

Unless you're moving Sal, I don't think anyone is bringing back what the Brewers need.

That is kinda my thought too.

[MickeyDavis]

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That’s not exactly ideal I wouldn’t think. Doesn’t seem like a quick return either way.

[thonnisbeastley]

Unless you're moving Sal, I don't think anyone is bringing back what the Brewers need.

That is kinda my thought too.

Quero packaged with one of our fringe guys will net us a solid #3 pitcher for the rotation.

[ReasonablySober]

Unless you're moving Sal, I don't think anyone is bringing back what the Brewers need.

That is kinda my thought too.

Quero packaged with one of our fringe guys will net us a solid #3 pitcher for the rotation.

That's not happening. He's a catcher and he **** up his throwing shoulder.

[thonnisbeastley]

That is kinda my thought too.

Quero packaged with one of our fringe guys will net us a solid #3 pitcher for the rotation.

That's not happening. He's a catcher and he **** up his throwing shoulder.

We don't know if his shoulder is done for good. If it is, he's much more valuable right now then he will be next season. Someone will take a chance on him and we don't need him with Contreras.

[thonnisbeastley]

Cut Bauers and promote Black.

[ReasonablySober]

Quero packaged with one of our fringe guys will net us a solid #3 pitcher for the rotation.

That's not happening. He's a catcher and he **** up his throwing shoulder.

We don't know if his shoulder is done for good. If it is, he's much more valuable right now then he will be next season. Someone will take a chance on him and we don't need him with Contreras.

When's the last time a guy who just had surgery on a torn labrum got traded?

[thonnisbeastley]

That's not happening. He's a catcher and he **** up his throwing shoulder.

We don't know if his shoulder is done for good. If it is, he's much more valuable right now then he will be next season. Someone will take a chance on him and we don't need him with Contreras.

When's the last time a guy who just had surgery on a torn labrum got traded?

Injured minor leaguers get traded all the time. The #3 ranked catching prospect and 32nd overall at 21 years old still has tons of value, hurt or not. We traded Burnes for two guys considered worse prospects than Quero and one of them (Ortiz) tore his labrum a couple of years ago.

[Thunder Muscle]

I agree with RS. I don’t think Quero at the moment can land an established #3 starter at the big league level, even with a fringe guy. There are just too many questions with health and pitching is valuable.

Last year would you have ever considered trading Peralta for a top 30 prospect with a torn labrum on his throwing arm and a utility player?

And I also don’t think you giveaway Quero yet for like another back end rotation guy that may or may not help. I dont think we’re quite that “win now” mode yet.

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God that sucks.

[MVP2110]

Yeah that really sucks

[Thunder Muscle]

****.

[BUCKnation]

That’s awful, especially since it seemed like he had one foot in retirement prior to joining up again.

[WeekapaugGroove]

What a weird season. Your closer goes down in spring training, your number 2 starter on an already sketchy rotation blows out his elbow, your highest paid dude gets hurt a week in, and none of your prized prospects have really popped..... but your 17-8


Now it should be noted that Turang and Perkins playing like all stars would definitely be in the unexpected good category. Turang a little less so, he was a pretty highly regarded prospect at one point. The Perkins heater is completely out of no where. Doubt he keeps it up but baseball is weird and maybe something at the plate just clicked for him, dude could always run and field.

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