Shams: Paul George won’t accept less than a max offer, Clippers offering less.

Post #21 » by **Snakebites** » Mon May 6, 2024 5:06 pm

Good. That means someone will use cap space on him.

The Pistons may not have to go as far down their list as I thought.

If it’s even true.

HadAnEffectHere · Post #22 » by **HadAnEffectHere** » Mon May 6, 2024 5:06 pm

Harry Garris wrote:If the Clippers don’t have a financial advantage over other teams to re-sign PG that significantly increases the chances that he could leave

They can offer $1m more per year in years 2-4 but it's a very small advantage.

Post #23 » by **bisme37** » Mon May 6, 2024 5:07 pm

The carpet thread title doesn't match the drapes tweet.

CIN-C-STAR · Post #24 » by **CIN-C-STAR** » Mon May 6, 2024 5:07 pm

Harry Garris wrote:If the Clippers don’t have a financial advantage over other teams to re-sign PG that significantly increases the chances that he could leave

Thank, Magic

Post #25 » by **Froob** » Mon May 6, 2024 5:09 pm

Is it possible for George to be S&T'd for KAT? I know Wolves are still in it and playing great, I'm just a KAT hater

rand · Post #26 » by **rand** » Mon May 6, 2024 5:10 pm

OkcSinceSGA wrote:This is great for the Clippers if true. Yes, it means the SGA trade and era was a bust (could see that years ago). But it also will force them into a rebuild sooner than later most likely which is much needed. PG isn’t worthy of more than 25 per year, let alone 50.

How could entering a rebuild be good for them right now when they have traded or swapped away all of their FRPs (and all but two SRPs) until 2030?

ccvle · Post #27 » by **ccvle** » Mon May 6, 2024 5:11 pm

OkcSinceSGA wrote:
Blaze4G wrote:
OkcSinceSGA wrote:

Read on Twitter

This is great for the Clippers if true. Yes, it means the SGA trade and era was a bust (could see that years ago). But it also will force them into a rebuild sooner than later most likely which is much needed. PG isn’t worthy of more than 25 per year, let alone 50.

25 per year is ridiculously low. PG is worth around 40 million per year.

Hell no.

Jrue Holidays got 34. Welcome to year 2024.

Woodsanity · Post #28 » by **Woodsanity** » Mon May 6, 2024 5:11 pm

Froob wrote:Is it possible for George to be S&T'd for KAT? I know Wolves are still in it and playing great, I'm just a KAT hater

There is literally no upside for the Wolves to do this. Kat is way younger than PG who is approaching washed territory.

OkcSinceSGA · Post #29 » by **OkcSinceSGA** » Mon May 6, 2024 5:12 pm

rand wrote:
OkcSinceSGA wrote:This is great for the Clippers if true. Yes, it means the SGA trade and era was a bust (could see that years ago). But it also will force them into a rebuild sooner than later most likely which is much needed. PG isn’t worthy of more than 25 per year, let alone 50.

How could entering a rebuild be good for them right now when they have traded or swapped away all of their FRPs (and all but two SRPs) until 2030?

See the last page. They were in a bad situation in 2017 also with aging lob city. Look what happened..

Post #30 » by **jazzfan1971** » Mon May 6, 2024 5:12 pm

Seems to me that Paul's agent has been negotiating in good faith with the Clippers for a good while now. Unsuccessfully.

So, now comes the bad faith part of negotiations. Where you leak rumors and have your client say things designed to move the Clippers position. I think the Clippers will eventually cave. Maybe being able to have a partial guarantee or something on the final year. Some small concession by Paul to get this across the finish line. But, I think it's going to get ugly first, and the Clippers may have been better off just caving early before things became public and ugly.

It may be stupid money, but there will be other teams lining up to be stupid.

Loneshot · Post #31 » by **Loneshot** » Mon May 6, 2024 5:14 pm

He could be winning titles with the Lakers, instead he will retire without a ring.

OkcSinceSGA · Post #32 » by **OkcSinceSGA** » Mon May 6, 2024 5:14 pm

ccvle wrote:
OkcSinceSGA wrote:
Blaze4G wrote:25 per year is ridiculously low. PG is worth around 40 million per year.

Hell no.

Jrue Holidays got 34. Welcome to year 2024.

Boston is okay paying a 3rd or 4th option 34 mill because they have two young perennial all stars (one arguably superstar), and other young pieces and great role players. The Clippers are needing him to be the 2nd option… and he’s not adding defensive value or leadership like Jrue. Plus the Clippers will be forced to give up other assets next year to keep him.

JustBuzzin · Post #33 » by **JustBuzzin** » Mon May 6, 2024 5:16 pm

But they told me PG wasn't leaving LA?

Money talks always will. If Charlotte is offering him the max he will gladly leave sunny LA for the country backwoods of Charlotte NC.

OkcSinceSGA · Post #34 » by **OkcSinceSGA** » Mon May 6, 2024 5:16 pm

jazzfan1971 wrote:Seems to me that Paul's agent has been negotiating in good faith with the Clippers for a good while now. Unsuccessfully.

So, now comes the bad faith part of negotiations. Where you leak rumors and have your client say things designed to move the Clippers position. I think the Clippers will eventually cave. Maybe being able to have a partial guarantee or something on the final year. Some small concession by Paul to get this across the finish line. But, I think it's going to get ugly first, and the Clippers may have been better off just caving early before things became public and ugly.

It may be stupid money, but there will be other teams lining up to be stupid.

If the Clippers are smart… they call Kawhi’s bluff and piss him off by letting PG walk. Then Kawhi will willingly take a trade possibly.

OkcSinceSGA · Post #35 » by **OkcSinceSGA** » Mon May 6, 2024 5:19 pm

bisme37 wrote:The carpet thread title doesn't match the drapes tweet.

Oh knock it off. I updated the title :lol:

brackdan70 · Post #36 » by **brackdan70** » Mon May 6, 2024 5:25 pm

OkcSinceSGA wrote:
life_saver wrote:problem for Clippers is that this is a weak FA class..there might be couple of teams who might be willing to offer a max

They don’t even have much cap this FA. It’s about next year with Brunson, Tatum, Mitchell who will all decline player options.

I’d fully expect Tatum to sign a full supermax extension this summer.

basketballRob · Post #37 » by **basketballRob** » Mon May 6, 2024 5:26 pm

I hope he knows how to speak Floridian.

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Post #38 » by **Harry Garris** » Mon May 6, 2024 5:26 pm

HadAnEffectHere wrote:
Harry Garris wrote:If the Clippers don’t have a financial advantage over other teams to re-sign PG that significantly increases the chances that he could leave

They can offer $1m more per year in years 2-4 but it's a very small advantage.

I meant if the Clippers aren’t willing to use the financial advantage that they have

OkcSinceSGA · Post #39 » by **OkcSinceSGA** » Mon May 6, 2024 5:27 pm

brackdan70 wrote:
OkcSinceSGA wrote:
life_saver wrote:problem for Clippers is that this is a weak FA class..there might be couple of teams who might be willing to offer a max

They don’t even have much cap this FA. It’s about next year with Brunson, Tatum, Mitchell who will all decline player options.

I’d fully expect Tatum to sign a full supermax extension this summer.

I said that Tatum isn’t leaving last page and agree. Mitchell I definitely think they could poach and Brunson low chance, but possible.

JustBuzzin · Post #40 » by **JustBuzzin** » Mon May 6, 2024 5:29 pm

Snakebites wrote:Good. That means someone will use cap space on him.

The Pistons may not have to go as far down their list as I thought.

If it’s even true.

Pistons can offer him a max, but let's be real that would be a stupid move. PG alone is not enough to make them a playoff team.

A team like Charlotte would make more sense because of the young talent they already have adding a PG makes them a playoff team. They could also offer Bridges in a sign n trade.

Bridges for PG Clippers get a younger player at the same position they can still build around Kawhi.

I think Orlando will be the major contender for PG. He already said on his podcast he likes that team and the cornerstones Banchero/Franz. It's probably the next best location if he ultimately leaves LA.

My money is on Orlando.