2024 Offseason Thread

[fatlever]

Don't expect to see interesting names coming up for workouts.

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Does make me curious if this is in any way Stephon Castle related.

interesting. certainly many players and agents will still leak workouts.

[JMAC3]

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Hard pass, if he plays outstanding he is worth the contract yes, but if he is a parttime 25 mpg center its probably an overpay and the downside is really high for a guy that has 60 career starts 6 yrs into his career.

[HornetJail]

F that lol

[JustBuzzin]

Yeah I wanted Hartenstein, but that's just too much money for a center who brings energy and hustle.

Hard pass!

[JMAC3]

Yeah I wanted Hartenstein, but that's just too much money for a center who brings energy and hustle.

Hard pass!

He also is more of a 2 headed monster type of center who plays 25 mpg. If I am spending that type of money on a center, they need to have proven they can be effective for 32+ mpg multiple years like a Jarrett Allen, Claxton, Gobert have...

[MasterIchiro]

What contracts come to mind on both ends?

Hornets can bundle some short term deals like Bertans (expiring) + Micic (2 years) + Cody Martin (2 years) = ~32 million for matching purposes.

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[MasterIchiro]

What contracts come to mind on both ends?

Hornets can bundle some short term deals like Bertans (expiring) + Micic (2 years) + Cody Martin (2 years) = ~32 million for matching purposes.

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Trade machine works:

Martin + Micic + Bertans for Ben Simmons + 2027 Sixers 1st (top-8 protected).

Peterson strikes a deal with his former organization in Brooklyn?

[MasterIchiro]

Micic + Martin + Richards for Lonzo Ball + 2025 Blazers 1st (lottery-protected) also works.

[JustBuzzin]

If Bridges walks in FA I wouldn't mind Zach Lavine as a scoring replacement.

I don't think people realize if Bridges walks we will take a step back offensively. We need to replace his scoring production.

[MasterIchiro]

If Bridges walks in FA I wouldn't mind Zach Lavine as a scoring replacement.

I don't think people realize if Bridges walks we will take a step back offensively. We need to replace his scoring production.

I don't see the Bulls attaching draft capital for LaVine. Their asking price came down. They want to salary dump him, but that probably entails just moving his contract at neutral value. I don't see them shifting from their high asking price to paying to move him.

[JustBuzzin]

If Bridges walks in FA I wouldn't mind Zach Lavine as a scoring replacement.

I don't think people realize if Bridges walks we will take a step back offensively. We need to replace his scoring production.

I don't see the Bulls attaching draft capital for LaVine. Their asking price came down. They want to salary dump him, but that probably entails just moving his contract at neutral value. I don't see them shifting from their high asking price to paying to move him.

Yeah I understand that. Im just saying he's a realistic option if we lose Bridges. We could get him as a pure salary dump.

[luciano-davidwesley]

If Bridges walks in FA I wouldn't mind Zach Lavine as a scoring replacement.

I don't think people realize if Bridges walks we will take a step back offensively. We need to replace his scoring production.

I don't see the Bulls attaching draft capital for LaVine. Their asking price came down. They want to salary dump him, but that probably entails just moving his contract at neutral value. I don't see them shifting from their high asking price to paying to move him.

Yeah I understand that. Im just saying he's a realistic option if we lose Bridges. We could get him as a pure salary dump.

Personally I think he's negative value and he has a few years left. I'd want compensation for salary dumping him.

[LofJ]

If Miles is walking Utah is the team we should be talking to. We can take on John Collins in exchange for their 2027 Cavs or Lakers 1st.

[JustBuzzin]

If Miles is walking Utah is the team we should be talking to. We can take on John Collins in exchange for their 2027 Cavs or Lakers 1st.

I would do that in a heartbeat.

That sets us up for a major trade in the future. Also makes it certain we draft a wing to replace Miles in the draft.

[KingCat]

What contracts come to mind on both ends?

Hornets can bundle some short term deals like Bertans (expiring) + Micic (2 years) + Cody Martin (2 years) = ~32 million for matching purposes.

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Trade machine works:

Martin + Micic + Bertans for Ben Simmons + 2027 Sixers 1st (top-8 protected).

Peterson strikes a deal with his former organization in Brooklyn?

Sounds like another year of tanking. If it means not giving Miles a stupid contract and getting a shot at a top 3 pick in 25, then I can more than stomach that.

[MasterIchiro]

What contracts come to mind on both ends?

Hornets can bundle some short term deals like Bertans (expiring) + Micic (2 years) + Cody Martin (2 years) = ~32 million for matching purposes.

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Trade machine works:

Martin + Micic + Bertans for Ben Simmons + 2027 Sixers 1st (top-8 protected).

Peterson strikes a deal with his former organization in Brooklyn?

Sounds like another year of tanking. If it means not giving Miles a stupid contract and getting a shot at a top 3 pick in 25, then I can more than stomach that.

Not sure Hornets lose any ground here.

Mann replaces Micic. Poku replaces Bertans. Simmons replaces Martin. Both barely played.

15 games vs. 28 games.

But bigger than all this, LaMelo & Mark staying healthy keeps us from finishing bottom 3. You'd have to let Miles walk for nothing which is separate from my proposal.

I think the Hornets can remain competitive after taking on a bad contract with attached draft capital.

The smart play would be to retain Miles then shop him at the deadline using the added draft capital plus some picks from the cupboard (Heat, Dallas). This way you can upgrade Miles with a better player instead of losing him for nothing.

[JMAC3]

Trade machine works:

Martin + Micic + Bertans for Ben Simmons + 2027 Sixers 1st (top-8 protected).

Peterson strikes a deal with his former organization in Brooklyn?

Nets already are talking about potentially trading Bridges... so I doubt they are attaching draft capital to move an expiring contract. And if not and they keep Bridges they want to be good, not sure this the direction they would go.

The time to trade for Simmons is probably past, I don't see Nets giving up a first to dump an expiring. They can probably just buy him out later in the year and save some money.

Lavine for Simmons is much more likely, Bulls get the salary dump, Nets take on a guy that is under contract longer and plays.

[MPM]

Lavine for Simmons is much more likely, Bulls get the salary dump, Nets take on a guy that is under contract longer and plays.

This. Makes too much sense.

[LofJ]

I think the Miles thing is more of a prepare to pivot if we have to rather than we've already decided to let him walk decision. He's an unrestricted free agent, so he could sign anywhere (that has enough space to sign him). It would be organizational incompetence if Peterson wasn't at least preparing for the possibility that Miles will be playing for another team this coming season.

[JustBuzzin]

I think the Miles thing is more of a prepare to pivot if we have to rather than we've already decided to let him walk decision. He's an unrestricted free agent, so he could sign anywhere (that has enough space to sign him). It would be organizational incompetence if Peterson wasn't at least preparing for the possibility that Miles will be playing for another team this coming season.

I'm preparing for the worst with Miles not because of him, but because of his agent. He's going to the highest bidder. Rich Paul is not doing us any favors.