Don’t show this to my fellow Wolves fans…Best Naz Reid offers?

[jayjaysee]

Try and explain that. Reid has proven himself. 6th man of the year. Which means he is major contributor off bench. Nembhard proved in smaller sample size (playoffs) he can contribute off bench (Reid shined in moments during playoffs too).

So, are you thinking Reid at 24yo doesn’t have same upside as those folks? Which makes me wonder why you think you know that, and Reid’s upside (and potential as starter) is discounted for some reason (when those two get benefit of more upside).

Explain it? I imagine I’m in the wide majority here?

He’s an UFA in 12 months. The other two have really great floors and have 2-3 years left of their rookie contracts, then RFA.

Nembard’s sample size is more minutes per game than Reid though.

If Reid wouldn’t be a starter in Indy - I can see why Nembhard shouldn’t be considered.

OKC Reid would start, be in ideal role, and wouldn’t be going anywhere. He will be looking for stater role where he can be unlocked (shine). If Presti was trading for Reid, and Wolves in conference were listening, Wallace would be required.

That’s weird.. I’d assume Presti can move on to any of the other bigs available this summer?

And Reid will be an unrestricted free agent in 12 months. Theres no guarantee for any team that he sticks around, I’d guess Minnesota (after trading KAT) would be the closest thing to a lock since he loves the city/team.

Overpay with exactly what I want or don’t get my guy? That’s the stance?

Claxton, Hartenstein, WCJ, Capela/OO, Brolo, Poeltl, Jonas, Ayton/Timelord.. Missing some? Not sure. Then you can move on to PF’s and find a big body backup center in free agency?

[Wolveswin]

Explain it? I imagine I’m in the wide majority here?

He’s an UFA in 12 months. The other two have really great floors and have 2-3 years left of their rookie contracts, then RFA.

Nembard’s sample size is more minutes per game than Reid though.

If Reid wouldn’t be a starter in Indy - I can see why Nembhard shouldn’t be considered.

OKC Reid would start, be in ideal role, and wouldn’t be going anywhere. He will be looking for stater role where he can be unlocked (shine). If Presti was trading for Reid, and Wolves in conference were listening, Wallace would be required.

That’s weird.. I’d assume Presti can move on to any of the other bigs available this summer?

Overpay with exactly what I want or don’t get my guy? That’s the stance?

Claxton, Hartenstein, WCJ, Capela/OO, Brolo, Poeltl, Jonas, Ayton/Timelord.. Missing some? Not sure. Then you can move on to PF’s and find a big body backup center in free agency?

Reid wouldn’t be acquired as backup center.

Of course Presti should try and use his cap 1st - as he will as a great GM. Assumption has to be Presti struck out if calling inner conference Wolves and trying for Reid (using Wallace).

[jayjaysee]

If Reid wouldn’t be a starter in Indy - I can see why Nembhard shouldn’t be considered.

OKC Reid would start, be in ideal role, and wouldn’t be going anywhere. He will be looking for stater role where he can be unlocked (shine). If Presti was trading for Reid, and Wolves in conference were listening, Wallace would be required.

That’s weird.. I’d assume Presti can move on to any of the other bigs available this summer?

Overpay with exactly what I want or don’t get my guy? That’s the stance?

Claxton, Hartenstein, WCJ, Capela/OO, Brolo, Poeltl, Jonas, Ayton/Timelord.. Missing some? Not sure. Then you can move on to PF’s and find a big body backup center in free agency?

Reid wouldn’t be acquired as backup center.

Of course Presti should try and use his cap 1st - as he will as a great GM. Assumption has to be Presti struck out if calling inner conference Wolves and trying for Reid (using Wallace).

Yeah. He’d try and overpay with draft capital. Minnesota could be happy and take it and draft Carter or McCain and keep the future first for depth… Or they could turn down the overpay because they only want Wallace.

And then Presti offers the same package for OO. And then offers less for WCJ. And then if they turn him down, drills harder at iHart or Claxton.. and if they turn him down… Trades “a later of” first or a stack of 2nds for DFS and signs Jonas to a one year 20 million dollar deal… or such..

Reid isn’t the only really good big available.

[gswhoops]

Would love the Warriors to make a play for Naz but realistically we don't have the pieces to get him (at least that we would be willing to give up).

The only somewhat reasonable offer I can see from our end would be something based on Podziemski and I don't see the FO signing off on that.

[Colbinii]

I know Reid is really good, but can’t see Wallace for Nembard being available for him.

Try and explain that. Reid has proven himself. 6th man of the year. Which means he is major contributor off bench. Nembhard proved in smaller sample size (playoffs) he can contribute off bench (Reid shined in moments during playoffs too).

So, are you thinking Reid at 24yo doesn’t have same upside as those folks? Which makes me wonder why you think you know that, and Reid’s upside (and potential as starter) is discounted for some reason (when those two get benefit of more upside).

Try to explain it?

1) Contract Status
2) Positional Scarcity

But you're just being a-bit homer-ish here. Nembhard played more minutes off the bench and provided similar lift [Similar On/Off Numbers].

What happens if Naz Reid's outlier shooting numbers (41%) regress down to 36-37%?

I think Nembhard and Reid are extremely similar players. Both are flexible for two positions [PG/SG and PF/C], both have limited ceilings due to inability to draw free throws and lack of consistent on-ball creation. Both will be overmatched as a starter in certain match-ups and are ideal 6th men with clear flaws.

[Wolveswin]

That’s weird.. I’d assume Presti can move on to any of the other bigs available this summer?

Overpay with exactly what I want or don’t get my guy? That’s the stance?

Claxton, Hartenstein, WCJ, Capela/OO, Brolo, Poeltl, Jonas, Ayton/Timelord.. Missing some? Not sure. Then you can move on to PF’s and find a big body backup center in free agency?

Reid wouldn’t be acquired as backup center.

Of course Presti should try and use his cap 1st - as he will as a great GM. Assumption has to be Presti struck out if calling inner conference Wolves and trying for Reid (using Wallace).

Yeah. He’d try and overpay with draft capital. Minnesota could be happy and take it and draft Carter or McCain and keep the future first for depth… Or they could turn down the overpay because they only want Wallace.

And then Presti offers the same package for OO. And then offers less for WCJ. And then if they turn him down, drills harder at iHart or Claxton.. and if they turn him down… Trades “a later of” first or a stack of 2nds for DFS and signs Jonas to a one year 20 million dollar deal… or such..

Reid isn’t the only really good big available.

No he isn’t. But other than being on Wolves roster Reid double checks all the boxes Presti is looking for. Presti can and will try other channels. He is smart enough to know what it would take to get ideal fitting Reid (need be) from Wolves.

[Scoot McGroot]

Pacers for Nembhard? Although it seems like the Pacers want to keep/extend him

….what need does Indy have for Naz? Myles, Siakam, Walker, Jackson, and maybe Toppin and Jalen Smith back. Naz is really good, but that’s an excessive price to pay at the guards to tinker around with a bench big upgrade.

[jbk1234]

Maybe No. 20 and a TPE if the Cavs can trade Niang and seconds to the Pistons?

What about Dean Wade and #20?

I think it would have to be Wade or 20.

[BarbaGrizz]

I think he would look good next to JJJ. I would offer something like #9 + Kennard for Naz + #27

[Mamba4Goat]

I think he would look good next to JJJ. I would offer something like #9 + Kennard for Naz + #27

Unfortunately Kennard just barely makes too much. Has to be someone making $13.9mil or less.

[giberish]

Would love the Warriors to make a play for Naz but realistically we don't have the pieces to get him (at least that we would be willing to give up).

The only somewhat reasonable offer I can see from our end would be something based on Podziemski and I don't see the FO signing off on that.

Agreed on both counts. Reid would be an excellent fit as a starting C next to Draymond (with TJD as a backup C). There would have to be a 3-team deal and then I don't know how to get what Minny would want.

[LaSheed]

Detroit should be all over Naz if he becomes available.

[BuddyBuckets]

Dyson Daniels and a late 1st?

[gswhoops]

Would love the Warriors to make a play for Naz but realistically we don't have the pieces to get him (at least that we would be willing to give up).

The only somewhat reasonable offer I can see from our end would be something based on Podziemski and I don't see the FO signing off on that.

Agreed on both counts. Reid would be an excellent fit as a starting C next to Draymond (with TJD as a backup C). There would have to be a 3-team deal and then I don't know how to get what Minny would want.

Yeah, I mean assuming we're not willing to give up Kuminga or Podz I don't see how we square that circle. Just not enough value coming from our end. We're obviously not trading Steph or Dray, Klay is a FA and Minnesota can't take back a S&T, Wiggins isn't valuable and has history with Minnesota, and the rest of our pieces just aren't worth that much.

[jbk1234]

Reid wouldn’t be acquired as backup center.

Of course Presti should try and use his cap 1st - as he will as a great GM. Assumption has to be Presti struck out if calling inner conference Wolves and trying for Reid (using Wallace).

Yeah. He’d try and overpay with draft capital. Minnesota could be happy and take it and draft Carter or McCain and keep the future first for depth… Or they could turn down the overpay because they only want Wallace.

And then Presti offers the same package for OO. And then offers less for WCJ. And then if they turn him down, drills harder at iHart or Claxton.. and if they turn him down… Trades “a later of” first or a stack of 2nds for DFS and signs Jonas to a one year 20 million dollar deal… or such..

Reid isn’t the only really good big available.

No he isn’t. But other than being on Wolves roster Reid double checks all the boxes Presti is looking for. Presti can and will try other channels. He is smart enough to know what it would take to get ideal fitting Reid (need be) from Wolves.

He doesn't really check the rim protection box, but that shouldn't matter to OKC as they have Chet.

[DNP-Old]

Keep Naz.

MIN out: KAT
MIN in: Garland

CLE out: Garland & Allen
CLE in: Kat & Giddey

OKC out: Giddy (OKC has enough draft capital to even out the value to either or both MIN & CLE)
OKC in: Allen

[OxAndFox]

Here's my obligatory #13/Davion for Naz/#27.
Wolves cut some money and can extend Davion at a good number while being behind Conley for one more year and then taking over the starting PG role.

[giberish]

Would love the Warriors to make a play for Naz but realistically we don't have the pieces to get him (at least that we would be willing to give up).

The only somewhat reasonable offer I can see from our end would be something based on Podziemski and I don't see the FO signing off on that.

Agreed on both counts. Reid would be an excellent fit as a starting C next to Draymond (with TJD as a backup C). There would have to be a 3-team deal and then I don't know how to get what Minny would want.

Yeah, I mean assuming we're not willing to give up Kuminga or Podz I don't see how we square that circle. Just not enough value coming from our end. We're obviously not trading Steph or Dray, Klay is a FA and Minnesota can't take back a S&T, Wiggins isn't valuable and has history with Minnesota, and the rest of our pieces just aren't worth that much.

It would have to be sending out Wiggins, Moody and a future 1st, with Wiggins to a 3rd team. The 3rd team would have to send Minny something they want, with some extra salary (hopefully not useless) to GS. Difficult to impossible to connect the dots on that deal though.

[7r5ur]

It would have to be sending out Wiggins, Moody and a future 1st, with Wiggins to a 3rd team.The 3rd team would have to send Minny something they want, with some extra salary (hopefully not useless) to GS. Difficult to impossible to connect the dots on that deal though.

Yeah, Wiggins is one of the more solidly negative value contracts in the league, so I don't see who is going to be sending out things anyone wants for him. That's closer to a package for a Wiggins pure salary dump than it is somehow turning Wiggins' terrible contract to Naz. So I think Golden State is stuck with him.

[SNPA]

Here's my obligatory #13/Davion for Naz/#27.
Wolves cut some money and can extend Davion at a good number while being behind Conley for one more year and then taking over the starting PG role.

This could make sense. Wolves fans probably won’t like it. Check Davion’s shooting splits the last half of the season. His defense and 40% from the corners is a winning combo.