Dan Hurley Rejects Lakers' Six-Year, $70M Offer, Will Remain At UConn

[dubbmotta]

He is making 32m over six years with his current job and he is saying no to a job that pays him double.

Them California taxes taking half of that, plus cost of living higher. He might technically bring home less money and have less control…he made the right decision.

[Pickled Prunes]

Definitely a cheap offer. Hurley is an elite coach and more decorated than most NBA coaches already. You dont take THE biggest coach in college basketball make a big spectacle of it and offer the guy less than top 5 money. Buss has this idea that LAL is an elite destination that Coaches should take less to coach for. They have no real assets, Bron is a bully to any coach they bring in and they are probably going to be forced to take Bronny. They are far away from competing again. Also dont forget when she wouldnt give Lue that extra year. So cheap!

1) 6yr/$70m is not cheap; it's an overpay for someone that hasn't coached a game in the NBA. (This ain't college.)
2) Monty has a track record of being a great developmental coach in the NBA. (This ain't college.)
3) He had 3 years and 20m+ left on his previous deal which is negated by his new deal. So he's really getting about $10m per season.
4) People talk like all things are equal. They aren't. DET is (currently) the dregs of the NBA. They had to pay a premium to get a proven coach. The Lakers are one of the most storied franchises in the NBA and LA has long summers and warm winters. Everyone needs to stop comparing each and every coaching deal to Monty's deal in DET. It was unique in many ways. He could be collecting $7m per while sitting on a beach somewhere.

This is definitely a cheap offer this had to be 7 year 100mil or 10 years 130mil.. This offer was not what they put out there.. Detroit still pays monty that full money and lakers couldnt beat that? Come on this is silly.

Exactly it was a bad look for LAL reporting $100M and then finding out it was $70M. It’s amateur hour. Also you act as if this LA JOB is so wanted by the masses. Explain to me why Mike Budenholzer didn’t even consider them? That Monty deal was large and as a two time title in UCONN I would want to be top 3-5 in coaches salary to even consider leaving. If not he’d be smart to sit and wait for Thibs to be on the outs of NYK. DOLAN will off him the moon

Yes, DET has to pay Monty the full contract. It's what it took to drag him off the beach. If a coach is getting $7m to stay at home, what does it take to get him to show up and coach the 2nd worst roster in the NBA?

I didn't say coaching Lebron would be at the top of any coaches list... I said coaching in LAL was far more attractive than coaching this DET squad, and if Lebron is your hurdle, he will be retired soon. It seems pretty obvious that any proven coach would get paid considerably more to take that DET job than to take the LAL job. The fact that Monty was giving up $21m to take the job means that DET had to offer Monty more. His situation in DET can't really be compared to any other coaching availability. People keep saying "Mony got more and DET sucks!" Yeah, that is the main reason he got more... it's so simple!

Also, I don't know what LAL "put out there" but I do know that the history of college coaches coming to the NBA is pretty tragic. Offering a coach that is unproven in the NBA 7 years at over $10m per year is an overpay. Honestly, they probably dodged a bullet. He hasn't shown us anything at this level and we already know that Lebron won't be coached.... But here's an article that will explain my point better. (And before you read it, please understand that I believe BIlly Donovan to be one of the worst coaches in the NBA right now.)

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/history-ncaa-basketball-coaches-nba-billy-donovan-rick-pitino/6936446c88681fe943a43b3d

[cheese318]

Definitely a cheap offer. Hurley is an elite coach and more decorated than most NBA coaches already. You dont take THE biggest coach in college basketball make a big spectacle of it and offer the guy less than top 5 money. Buss has this idea that LAL is an elite destination that Coaches should take less to coach for. They have no real assets, Bron is a bully to any coach they bring in and they are probably going to be forced to take Bronny. They are far away from competing again. Also dont forget when she wouldnt give Lue that extra year. So cheap!

This is definitely a cheap offer this had to be 7 year 100mil or 10 years 130mil.. This offer was not what they put out there.. Detroit still pays monty that full money and lakers couldnt beat that? Come on this is silly.

Exactly it was a bad look for LAL reporting $100M and then finding out it was $70M. It’s amateur hour. Also you act as if this LA JOB is so wanted by the masses. Explain to me why Mike Budenholzer didn’t even consider them? That Monty deal was large and as a two time title in UCONN I would want to be top 3-5 in coaches salary to even consider leaving. If not he’d be smart to sit and wait for Thibs to be on the outs of NYK. DOLAN will off him the moon

Yes, DET has to pay Monty the full contract. It's what it took to drag him off the beach. If a coach is getting $7m to stay at home, what does it take to get him to show up and coach the 2nd worst roster in the NBA?

I didn't say coaching Lebron would be at the top of any coaches list... I said coaching in LAL was far more attractive than coaching this DET squad, and if Lebron is your hurdle, he will be retired soon. It seems pretty obvious that any proven coach would get paid considerably more to take that DET job than to take the LAL job. The fact that Monty was giving up $21m to take the job means that DET had to offer Monty more. His situation in DET can't really be compared to any other coaching availability. People keep saying "Mony got more and DET sucks!" Yeah, that is the main reason he got more... it's so simple!

Also, I don't know what LAL "put out there" but I do know that the history of college coaches coming to the NBA is pretty tragic. Offering a coach that is unproven in the NBA 7 years at over $10m per year is an overpay. Honestly, they probably dodged a bullet. He hasn't shown us anything at this level and we already know that Lebron won't be coached.... But here's an article that will explain my point better. (And before you read it, please understand that I believe BIlly Donovan to be one of the worst coaches in the NBA right now.)

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/history-ncaa-basketball-coaches-nba-billy-donovan-rick-pitino/6936446c88681fe943a43b3d

I do agree there was no guarantee that the transition would work. Billy Donovan for example was as a super hyped college coach that probably took longer to jump and really hasn’t found that edge he always had in Florida. Could be the roster management he’s had so maybe that will change in the future if he can ever get a team with some star players.

As poor as DET has been the contract which is now leading to other coaches getting more money than he did at $13M/season. I did not think he was worth that amount. JJ has zero experience coaching at any level so let’s see how that one works out. Vogel never should have been fired imo because if AD never gets hurt who knows what happens. Then they trade for Russ and the rest is history. LeBron is so dumb for ever thinking he could make Russ work. Now he’s content never winning a title again in his sunset in LA.

[Pickled Prunes]

Definitely a cheap offer. Hurley is an elite coach and more decorated than most NBA coaches already. You dont take THE biggest coach in college basketball make a big spectacle of it and offer the guy less than top 5 money. Buss has this idea that LAL is an elite destination that Coaches should take less to coach for. They have no real assets, Bron is a bully to any coach they bring in and they are probably going to be forced to take Bronny. They are far away from competing again. Also dont forget when she wouldnt give Lue that extra year. So cheap!

Exactly it was a bad look for LAL reporting $100M and then finding out it was $70M. It’s amateur hour. Also you act as if this LA JOB is so wanted by the masses. Explain to me why Mike Budenholzer didn’t even consider them? That Monty deal was large and as a two time title in UCONN I would want to be top 3-5 in coaches salary to even consider leaving. If not he’d be smart to sit and wait for Thibs to be on the outs of NYK. DOLAN will off him the moon

Yes, DET has to pay Monty the full contract. It's what it took to drag him off the beach. If a coach is getting $7m to stay at home, what does it take to get him to show up and coach the 2nd worst roster in the NBA?

I didn't say coaching Lebron would be at the top of any coaches list... I said coaching in LAL was far more attractive than coaching this DET squad, and if Lebron is your hurdle, he will be retired soon. It seems pretty obvious that any proven coach would get paid considerably more to take that DET job than to take the LAL job. The fact that Monty was giving up $21m to take the job means that DET had to offer Monty more. His situation in DET can't really be compared to any other coaching availability. People keep saying "Mony got more and DET sucks!" Yeah, that is the main reason he got more... it's so simple!

Also, I don't know what LAL "put out there" but I do know that the history of college coaches coming to the NBA is pretty tragic. Offering a coach that is unproven in the NBA 7 years at over $10m per year is an overpay. Honestly, they probably dodged a bullet. He hasn't shown us anything at this level and we already know that Lebron won't be coached.... But here's an article that will explain my point better. (And before you read it, please understand that I believe BIlly Donovan to be one of the worst coaches in the NBA right now.)

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/history-ncaa-basketball-coaches-nba-billy-donovan-rick-pitino/6936446c88681fe943a43b3d

I do agree there was no guarantee that the transition would work. Billy Donovan for example was as a super hyped college coach that probably took longer to jump and really hasn’t found that edge he always had in Florida. Could be the roster management he’s had so maybe that will change in the future if he can ever get a team with some star players.

As poor as DET has been the contract which is now leading to other coaches getting more money than he did at $13M/season. I did not think he was worth that amount. JJ has zero experience coaching at any level so let’s see how that one works out. Vogel never should have been fired imo because if AD never gets hurt who knows what happens. Then they trade for Russ and the rest is history. LeBron is so dumb for ever thinking he could make Russ work. Now he’s content never winning a title again in his sunset in LA.

I agree for the most part. Any new job has it's learning curve. We can look at Nash, Kidd or Billups as recent examples of how those first few years usually look for a player-turned-coach. I'm not sure why JJ would do better. We can also look at the history of college coaches moving to the NBA and that learning curve is just as steep. I don't believe either of these two choices should be getting huge deals. First time coach gets first time coach money. It's simple.

Monty has proven that he is a great developmental coach. He also coached one of those teams from the lottery to the NBA Finals. That alone was enough to make him one of the most sought after coaches in the NBA. Monty was scheduled to get paid $7m per for the next three years, so he could have waited for a great job to come along. DET wanted him bad enough that they made a ridiculous offer... but probably not too ridiculous because they weren't getting a better coach to sign on.

My entire point is that people need to stop comparing every new deal to Monty's deal. There were extenuating circumstances. The situations are not remotely comparable.

Hurley in LAL- First time NBA coach/Playoff team/Vacation destination city
Monty in DET - Proven NBA coach/garbage roster/forfeited $21m to take the job

[cheese318]

Yes, DET has to pay Monty the full contract. It's what it took to drag him off the beach. If a coach is getting $7m to stay at home, what does it take to get him to show up and coach the 2nd worst roster in the NBA?

I didn't say coaching Lebron would be at the top of any coaches list... I said coaching in LAL was far more attractive than coaching this DET squad, and if Lebron is your hurdle, he will be retired soon. It seems pretty obvious that any proven coach would get paid considerably more to take that DET job than to take the LAL job. The fact that Monty was giving up $21m to take the job means that DET had to offer Monty more. His situation in DET can't really be compared to any other coaching availability. People keep saying "Mony got more and DET sucks!" Yeah, that is the main reason he got more... it's so simple!

Also, I don't know what LAL "put out there" but I do know that the history of college coaches coming to the NBA is pretty tragic. Offering a coach that is unproven in the NBA 7 years at over $10m per year is an overpay. Honestly, they probably dodged a bullet. He hasn't shown us anything at this level and we already know that Lebron won't be coached.... But here's an article that will explain my point better. (And before you read it, please understand that I believe BIlly Donovan to be one of the worst coaches in the NBA right now.)

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/history-ncaa-basketball-coaches-nba-billy-donovan-rick-pitino/6936446c88681fe943a43b3d

I do agree there was no guarantee that the transition would work. Billy Donovan for example was as a super hyped college coach that probably took longer to jump and really hasn’t found that edge he always had in Florida. Could be the roster management he’s had so maybe that will change in the future if he can ever get a team with some star players.

As poor as DET has been the contract which is now leading to other coaches getting more money than he did at $13M/season. I did not think he was worth that amount. JJ has zero experience coaching at any level so let’s see how that one works out. Vogel never should have been fired imo because if AD never gets hurt who knows what happens. Then they trade for Russ and the rest is history. LeBron is so dumb for ever thinking he could make Russ work. Now he’s content never winning a title again in his sunset in LA.

I agree for the most part. Any new job has it's learning curve. We can look at Nash, Kidd or Billups as recent examples of how those first few years usually look for a player-turned-coach. I'm not sure why JJ would do better. We can also look at the history of college coaches moving to the NBA and that learning curve is just as steep. I don't believe either of these two choices should be getting huge deals. First time coach gets first time coach money. It's simple.

Monty has proven that he is a great developmental coach. He also coached one of those teams from the lottery to the NBA Finals. That alone was enough to make him one of the most sought after coaches in the NBA. Monty was scheduled to get paid $7m per for the next three years, so he could have waited for a great job to come along. DET wanted him bad enough that they made a ridiculous offer... but probably not too ridiculous because they weren't getting a better coach to sign on.

My entire point is that people need to stop comparing every new deal to Monty's deal. There were extenuating circumstances. The situations are not remotely comparable.

Hurley in LAL- First time NBA coach/Playoff team/Vacation destination city
Monty in DET - Proven NBA coach/garbage roster/forfeited $21m to take the job

I understand. Its basically like Rudy Goebert's contract on the player end. As great as he is in the voters eyes for DPOY he has proven time and time again he just cannot stay on the court in the postseason. He is overpaid to some degree. Everyone was trying to use the MIN trade for Rudy as comps for value two summers ago which caused a major freeze in offseason landscape. Obviously coaches/player contracts & value are different cup of tea

[Pickled Prunes]

I do agree there was no guarantee that the transition would work. Billy Donovan for example was as a super hyped college coach that probably took longer to jump and really hasn’t found that edge he always had in Florida. Could be the roster management he’s had so maybe that will change in the future if he can ever get a team with some star players.

As poor as DET has been the contract which is now leading to other coaches getting more money than he did at $13M/season. I did not think he was worth that amount. JJ has zero experience coaching at any level so let’s see how that one works out. Vogel never should have been fired imo because if AD never gets hurt who knows what happens. Then they trade for Russ and the rest is history. LeBron is so dumb for ever thinking he could make Russ work. Now he’s content never winning a title again in his sunset in LA.

I agree for the most part. Any new job has it's learning curve. We can look at Nash, Kidd or Billups as recent examples of how those first few years usually look for a player-turned-coach. I'm not sure why JJ would do better. We can also look at the history of college coaches moving to the NBA and that learning curve is just as steep. I don't believe either of these two choices should be getting huge deals. First time coach gets first time coach money. It's simple.

Monty has proven that he is a great developmental coach. He also coached one of those teams from the lottery to the NBA Finals. That alone was enough to make him one of the most sought after coaches in the NBA. Monty was scheduled to get paid $7m per for the next three years, so he could have waited for a great job to come along. DET wanted him bad enough that they made a ridiculous offer... but probably not too ridiculous because they weren't getting a better coach to sign on.

My entire point is that people need to stop comparing every new deal to Monty's deal. There were extenuating circumstances. The situations are not remotely comparable.

Hurley in LAL- First time NBA coach/Playoff team/Vacation destination city
Monty in DET - Proven NBA coach/garbage roster/forfeited $21m to take the job

I understand. Its basically like Rudy Goebert's contract on the player end. As great as he is in the voters eyes for DPOY he has proven time and time again he just cannot stay on the court in the postseason. He is overpaid to some degree. Everyone was trying to use the MIN trade for Rudy as comps for value two summers ago which caused a major freeze in offseason landscape. Obviously coaches/player contracts & value are different cup of tea

Yes, that is a great comp! A defense-only center (even the best one) isn't worth a max deal in today's NBA. Add to that the cost it took MIN to get him. But when you look at the players MIN had been pairing with KAT, and that Edwards was on the rise, and the fact that MIN has never been able to land a big fish in free agency... MIN came to the conclusion that it was worth taking a swing at Gobert. That situation was an outlier, not the new norm.

Beal would be an example in the other extreme. A good player that is clearly not worth a max, holding a no-trade and stuck on the books of a tanking team. WAS was forced to to either keep him or trade him to his preferred destination for whatever they could get. This situation was also an outlier, not the new norm.

Monty is now the 5th highest paid coach behind Pop, Kerr, Spoelstra and Lue. That is a list of some of the most successful current NBA coaches. Pop is already in the HOF! Their contracts should have no bearing on the new contracts of a 1st time NBA coach with zero NBA experience.

I heard Chauncy Billups is making $2m per. (It's undisclosed.) That would be a better comp. He was a better player than JJ and his time in POR has been a tire fire!