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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread - June 26/27 

Post#821 » by SirChurros » Wed Jun 12, 2024 2:40 am

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M-C-G wrote:Furphy looks nice in the two minutes I looked at him. Reminded me of the dick Dunleavy Jr


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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread - June 26/27 

Post#822 » by emunney » Wed Jun 12, 2024 3:16 am

PG Graveyard wrote:If we are working out McCain and McCain agrees to it have to think we have the potential to get a higher pick somehow.


I think he could just be covering his bases. He's consensus late lotto in a flat draft and we pick 23. It wouldn't be that weird if he was there
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread - June 26/27 

Post#823 » by Vasquectomy » Wed Jun 12, 2024 3:38 am

That would make sense except the rest of the list doesn’t match. No other similarly-rated players. In fact, nothing on that list makes much sense to me except Tyler Wahl, and he makes sense for reasons unrelated to the draft.

The way you guys talk about him, McCain could be an eventual Dame replacement, maybe amore defense and less ball dominance - could be a good fit with later-day Giannis. In the meantime, he looks like a good backcourt match with AJJ and gives some scoring punch to the bench.

In the short term, exchanging Cam & Beasley’s minutes for more Green AJJ and McCain - that seems fine to me.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread - June 26/27 

Post#824 » by emunney » Wed Jun 12, 2024 4:51 am

Vasquectomy wrote:That would make sense except the rest of the list doesn’t match. No other similarly-rated players. In fact, nothing on that list makes much sense to me except Tyler Wahl, and he makes sense for reasons unrelated to the draft.

The way you guys talk about him, McCain could be an eventual Dame replacement, maybe amore defense and less ball dominance - could be a good fit with later-day Giannis. In the meantime, he looks like a good backcourt match with AJJ and gives some scoring punch to the bench.

In the short term, exchanging Cam & Beasley’s minutes for more Green AJJ and McCain - that seems fine to me.


Maybe he's got a good agent who sees a good team with a high-profile opportunity for a smart and skilled guard. Maybe we'll work out more players. Maybe we are indeed trading up. Either way we don't know how these guys are actually rated. We just know how a half dozen self-anointed experts are calling it.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread - June 26/27 

Post#825 » by JayMKE » Wed Jun 12, 2024 11:37 am

Really don’t want another undersized 2
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread - June 26/27 

Post#826 » by Fotis St » Wed Jun 12, 2024 10:52 pm

Holmes projected as high as #18 ...
Probably Missi or Tyler Smith will be available #23 and Horst ... you better draft Cameron Christie #33 ... he is born in 2005 and can easily be a rotational shooting guard for the next 10+ years
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread - June 26/27 

Post#827 » by ShootingtheJ » Wed Jun 12, 2024 11:29 pm

Fotis St wrote:Holmes projected as high as #18 ...
Probably Missi or Tyler Smith will be available #23 and Horst ... you better draft Cameron Christie #33 ... he is born in 2005 and can easily be a rotational shooting guard for the next 10+ years


Please tell me the difference between Max Christie coming out of college and Cam Christie now?

I don't see any. Max is still slightly intriguing, but after 2 years he's still not good enough.

As for Holmes, ESPN, which has sources, is still much lower on him. I think he's an absolute steal, but there's a good chance he's there for us at 23.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread - June 26/27 

Post#828 » by msiris » Thu Jun 13, 2024 12:24 am

ShootingtheJ wrote:
Fotis St wrote:Holmes projected as high as #18 ...
Probably Missi or Tyler Smith will be available #23 and Horst ... you better draft Cameron Christie #33 ... he is born in 2005 and can easily be a rotational shooting guard for the next 10+ years


Please tell me the difference between Max Christie coming out of college and Cam Christie now?

I don't see any. Max is still slightly intriguing, but after 2 years he's still not good enough.

As for Holmes, ESPN, which has sources, is still much lower on him. I think he's an absolute steal, but there's a good chance he's there for us at 23.
Ware, Holmes and Shannon depending on trial makes up my very short list.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread - June 26/27 

Post#829 » by worthlessBucks » Thu Jun 13, 2024 3:03 am

Rooting for Edey or Shannon.

Spurs are in a fun spot. Would take the UConn big with one of their picks.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread - June 26/27 

Post#830 » by Fotis St » Thu Jun 13, 2024 5:31 am

ShootingtheJ wrote:
Fotis St wrote:Holmes projected as high as #18 ...
Probably Missi or Tyler Smith will be available #23 and Horst ... you better draft Cameron Christie #33 ... he is born in 2005 and can easily be a rotational shooting guard for the next 10+ years


Please tell me the difference between Max Christie coming out of college and Cam Christie now?

I don't see any. Max is still slightly intriguing, but after 2 years he's still not good enough.

As for Holmes, ESPN, which has sources, is still much lower on him. I think he's an absolute steal, but there's a good chance he's there for us at 23.

The "seed" is similar, but in order to flurish , the type of soil and the farmer matters the most.

Bucks have a clear need for 3p shooting for as long Giannis is here. There is a clear role here to fill. I wish our current farmer provides enough water and special treatment to this seed cause honestly brother, drafting bad all these years has dried us out of talent.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread - June 26/27 

Post#831 » by ShootingtheJ » Thu Jun 13, 2024 11:24 am

Fotis St wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:
Fotis St wrote:Holmes projected as high as #18 ...
Probably Missi or Tyler Smith will be available #23 and Horst ... you better draft Cameron Christie #33 ... he is born in 2005 and can easily be a rotational shooting guard for the next 10+ years


Please tell me the difference between Max Christie coming out of college and Cam Christie now?

I don't see any. Max is still slightly intriguing, but after 2 years he's still not good enough.

As for Holmes, ESPN, which has sources, is still much lower on him. I think he's an absolute steal, but there's a good chance he's there for us at 23.

The "seed" is similar, but in order to flurish , the type of soil and the farmer matters the most.

Bucks have a clear need for 3p shooting for as long Giannis is here. There is a clear role here to fill. I wish our current farmer provides enough water and special treatment to this seed cause honestly brother, drafting bad all these years has dried us out of talent.


No team in the NBA needs shooting more than the Lakers, the team Max plays for.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread - June 26/27 

Post#832 » by SirChurros » Thu Jun 13, 2024 2:32 pm

The more I watch of Furphy the more all in on him I am. He’ll probably suck but if he doesn’t he’s an Australian with a goofy name. I remember the last time we drafted one of those.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread - June 26/27 

Post#833 » by msiris » Thu Jun 13, 2024 3:45 pm

Fotis St wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:
Fotis St wrote:Holmes projected as high as #18 ...
Probably Missi or Tyler Smith will be available #23 and Horst ... you better draft Cameron Christie #33 ... he is born in 2005 and can easily be a rotational shooting guard for the next 10+ years


Please tell me the difference between Max Christie coming out of college and Cam Christie now?

I don't see any. Max is still slightly intriguing, but after 2 years he's still not good enough.

As for Holmes, ESPN, which has sources, is still much lower on him. I think he's an absolute steal, but there's a good chance he's there for us at 23.

The "seed" is similar, but in order to flurish , the type of soil and the farmer matters the most.

Bucks have a clear need for 3p shooting for as long Giannis is here. There is a clear role here to fill. I wish our current farmer provides enough water and special treatment to this seed cause honestly brother, drafting bad all these years has dried us out of talent.
I disagree. We need more scorers like Mids who can do it at all 3 levels. Shannon is one I really like. We only have one right now in Mids.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread - June 26/27 

Post#834 » by emunney » Thu Jun 13, 2024 4:08 pm

To be fair to Fotis, I thought Max Christie was alright this year, particularly for a 20 year old. A bit of a bright spot on a very dreary Laker roster.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread - June 26/27 

Post#835 » by SirChurros » Thu Jun 13, 2024 4:55 pm

Call me old fashioned but I’d prefer we stay away from the guy who is in the midst of a rape trial.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread - June 26/27 

Post#836 » by ShootingtheJ » Thu Jun 13, 2024 5:37 pm

emunney wrote:To be fair to Fotis, I thought Max Christie was alright this year, particularly for a 20 year old. A bit of a bright spot on a very dreary Laker roster.



He's still intriguing, but he averaged 4 ppg and 35% from 3, and was well below replacement level. I think we can find better than that at #33.

Could be a good player by 25? Sure, but he'll likely be on his 2nd or 3rd team.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread - June 26/27 

Post#837 » by emunney » Thu Jun 13, 2024 6:02 pm

People should keep in mind that if Shannon wasn't accused of rape, he would still be turning 24 next month. That's not a death sentence but it's important context for his time at Illinois. He was not nearly as good when he was playing against his developmental peer group (but he was not bad either).
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread - June 26/27 

Post#838 » by Fotis St » Thu Jun 13, 2024 7:07 pm

ShootingtheJ wrote:
emunney wrote:To be fair to Fotis, I thought Max Christie was alright this year, particularly for a 20 year old. A bit of a bright spot on a very dreary Laker roster.



He's still intriguing, but he averaged 4 ppg and 35% from 3, and was well below replacement level. I think we can find better than that at #33.

Could be a good player by 25? Sure, but he'll likely be on his 2nd or 3rd team.


We agree in a way. I like Cam Christie for multiple reasons let me explain. I believe Christie is plug n play right now at the age of 19. Even if his rookie contract expires ... he is still 23... Bucks have the option to resign him OR trade him as a talented player. There are 23y olds even in this draft class. Drafting old rookies with "high" floor has led us to nowhere. By the time and if they figure it out, we throw them on trades for salary fillers with zero value. The amazing thing about Christie is that I believe he is deadly from the 3 like AJ Green. I love that he swishes even some of his off the dribble 3s. He is a rare US talent, raised to play exclusively basketball, cause of his dad. I love players like that, they usually have better footwork. Anyway I wish Cameron Christie wears a Bucks hat on draft night.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread - June 26/27 

Post#839 » by Bernman » Thu Jun 13, 2024 7:15 pm

emunney wrote:People should keep in mind that if Shannon wasn't accused of rape, he would still be turning 24 next month. That's not a death sentence but it's important context for his time at Illinois. He was not nearly as good when he was playing against his developmental peer group (but he was not bad either).


Covid impeded 1-2 of those yrs. By yr 4 he was clearly impactful. His peer, McCullar, who is projected around our 1st rd pick range many places, played w/ him previously at TT, & at their respective transfer destinations in yr 4 & 5 had inferior production. They seemed to prevent each other from flourishing, but McCullar to Shannon more than vice versa.

I think w/out the 2nd or 3rd degree sexual assault accusation he's still still a lotto pick. Knecht is projected to be one at the same age & Shannon doesn't have the defensive concerns.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread - June 26/27 

Post#840 » by msiris » Thu Jun 13, 2024 7:33 pm

SirChurros wrote:Call me old fashioned but I’d prefer we stay away from the guy who is in the midst of a rape trial.
I read alot about his trial and its very flimsy. DNA is lacking. The guy he was with was accused of the same thing before. He wasn't even investigated Nobody saw anything. Cameras didn't catch nything. She has been inconsistant with her story. The two never said a word to each other. Just a weird case.
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