Raptors attempting to trade up in the draft

[Merit]

Brown + 19 to Sac for Barnes + 13. Sac escapes the Barnes contract and holds onto Brown as an expiring in a big deadline deal swing.

That’s not a bad idea. The homer in me says they may trade for the 31 instead.

[Jerry Lucas]

LOL at everyone saying Masai would never make a move like this because he's never done it before.

Giannis literally would have been a Toronto Raptor if Steven Adams didn't drop to OKC's pick.

[Merit]

Brown + 19 to Sac for Barnes + 13. Sac escapes the Barnes contract and holds onto Brown as an expiring in a big deadline deal swing.

This one could work.

I don’t know why SAC does it? Barnes is a solid starter who defends and hits 3s. He makes around $18m a season. He’s more valuable than Brown so SAC, a team that wants to make the playoffs, trades for a worse player and they move down in the draft? Doesn’t make a lot of sense.

Shhh. Let us pretend to have nice things.

That said, the reason would be to sign Monk. Not sure why they’d focus so hard on him when they could just sign Gary and he’d approximate a lot of what monk does in their offense for the MLE.

[Duffman100]

And the dude they are presumably targeting (Edey) is blocked by the dude they traded the lottery pick for (Poeltl)

Really cant make this up the league is probably as open as its ever been but we are so far away.

but you guys just did make it up. koc is not a source nor did he say the raptors are trying to trade back into the lottery. you've also made up targets, etc and what we are trying to trade.

It's truly incredible to watch

[Merit]

Ya I wouldn’t be too happy about that honestly.

For me it would be Brown and the 19th

or

Poeltl and the 31st.

In an ideal world:

Kennard + flotsam + 9

for

Poeltl + 31

-soft reset on the Poeltl trade

-get our draft target at #9

-take step back next year to get top 5 pick

-possibly address C of the future with 9/19 or ‘25 1st

-if we still desire a somewhat competent C then overpay Goga Bitadze at 2/20. He looked solid in ORL this past season but got pushed out of the rotation behind WCJ and Isaac

I agree that I probably wouldn’t want to give up 19 to get to 9 but there are possible downstream upsides like making our 2025 pick better by getting rid of Poeltl. Basically it’s Poeltl, 19th and 10th (‘25 1st) vs 9 and top 5 in ‘25. In a vacuum it’s not terrible considering moving from 19 > 9 probably costs another pick between 17-23 (which is probably Poeltl’s value). If we have to take back salary that changes the equation though.

I think if we get Kennard/Clarke/Aldama for Jak we would be set in terms of depth across our roster. Clarke is still solid, and he’s also Canadian. Aldama imo is a decent rotational player. Kennard is our GTJ replacement. In this scenario we also move Bruce Brown and McDaniels for Wiggins. No picks.


IQ/
RJ/Kennard
Wiggins/Gradey
Scottie/Clarke
Aldama/

We still have Boucher and Kennard to trade at the deadline, plus the MLE, LLE, 9, 19.

[WuTang_CMB]

LOL at everyone saying Masai would never make a move like this because he's never done it before.

Giannis literally would have been a Toronto Raptor if Steven Adams didn't drop to OKC's pick.

[Clutch0z24]

Alot think if we trade up its for Edey...I don't think thats the reason we would be trading up though....Edey is a 15-25 projected atm...We wouldn't need to move up that high to get Edey....

Knowing Masai track record and players he likes to target Salaun makes the most logical sense...I actually like Edey but the chances Masai trying to move into the top 10 to draft him makes little sense to me.

[RoteSchroder]

Alot think if we trade up its for Edey...I don't think thats the reason we would be trading up though....Edey is a 15-25 projected atm...We wouldn't need to move up that high to get Edey....

Knowing Masai track record and players he likes to target Salaun makes the most logical sense...I actually like Edey but the chances Masai trying to move into the top 10 to draft him makes little sense to me.

mocks aren't always accurate

[Clutch0z24]

Alot think if we trade up its for Edey...I don't think thats the reason we would be trading up though....Edey is a 15-25 projected atm...We wouldn't need to move up that high to get Edey....

Knowing Masai track record and players he likes to target Salaun makes the most logical sense...I actually like Edey but the chances Masai trying to move into the top 10 to draft him makes little sense to me.

mocks aren't always accurate

Yep that is true but idk if Edey is the guy Masai is trading up for....Its not that i don't like Edey and wouldn't mind it i just look at Masai track record in guys he likes....Hes going for Salaun if i were to put my money on it.

[canada_dry]

Getting the #9 for Poeltl would be hilarious. We drop 1 pick for year and a half of Poeltl.

It would have to be for a brandon clarke and Zaire added too though. Another big and a young guy with potential added to the pick is fine with me. Even one of the 2. No problem there.

Poetl for 9+ garbage for contract purposes straight up is a lot less palatable.

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[canada_dry]

I could be wrong but I DON'T think it's for Edey.

We have a solid enough big man rotation, on the otherhand go listen to Masai's presser again, he states multiple times that a BIGGER wing is THE top of his list to improve the roster which imo means we're targeting...

TIDJANE SALUAN.

We've already scouted him on multiple occasions, his physical profile screams Masai prototype and he's the one kid you heard a couple weeks ago has skyrocketed up draft boards and many believe he's going top 10. POR hired Schmidtz and since then have taken on higher upside prospects (ie/ Shaedon & Scoot), they also already have 2 decent bigmen in place (Ayton, RGIII). They likely want to take a safer prospect with their own pick then secure Tidj to develop long term when they inevitably try to move Grant who doesn't fit the timeline of their young guys.

CLE is the only one who I don't think is in that race and is actually just trying to move up to secure a better PG prospect ie/ Dillingham or McCain, so that they can move on from Garland.

It's reported now so a late riser. It's gotta be Carlton Carrington, who rose from mid 2nd to early 2nd/late 1st. After the combine, he's potentially leaped ahead of #19.

Portland needs players and Boucher played at Oregon.

#14 and Malcolm Brogdon for #19, Chris Boucher and Ochai Agbaji.

#14 Carlton Carrington (play a lot with the 905 in his 1st season)

Bruce Brown for Wiggins and Moody

PG IQ - Brogdon - JFL
SG Dick - Moody - Carrington
SF Barrett - Wiggins - McDaniels
PF Barnes - Wiggins/Olynyk
C Poeltl - Olynyk - Chomche

While thats not a bad ides for the offseason...

Wiggins and barret are 100% our starting wings in that scenario lol.

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[canada_dry]

FO stands pat - crybabies out in full force
FO tries to trade up - crybabies out in full force

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[Rapsfan07]

Masai generally doesn't do anything with his draft picks except use them or trading them away.

History suggests he does nothing but I guess we'll see. What I will say is that I hope it's not for Salaun or Edey.

[ConSarnit]

For me it would be Brown and the 19th

or

Poeltl and the 31st.

In an ideal world:

Kennard + flotsam + 9

for

Poeltl + 31

-soft reset on the Poeltl trade

-get our draft target at #9

-take step back next year to get top 5 pick

-possibly address C of the future with 9/19 or ‘25 1st

-if we still desire a somewhat competent C then overpay Goga Bitadze at 2/20. He looked solid in ORL this past season but got pushed out of the rotation behind WCJ and Isaac

I agree that I probably wouldn’t want to give up 19 to get to 9 but there are possible downstream upsides like making our 2025 pick better by getting rid of Poeltl. Basically it’s Poeltl, 19th and 10th (‘25 1st) vs 9 and top 5 in ‘25. In a vacuum it’s not terrible considering moving from 19 > 9 probably costs another pick between 17-23 (which is probably Poeltl’s value). If we have to take back salary that changes the equation though.

I think if we get Kennard/Clarke/Aldama for Jak we would be set in terms of depth across our roster. Clarke is still solid, and he’s also Canadian. Aldama imo is a decent rotational player. Kennard is our GTJ replacement. In this scenario we also move Bruce Brown and McDaniels for Wiggins. No picks.


IQ/
RJ/Kennard
Wiggins/Gradey
Scottie/Clarke
Aldama/

We still have Boucher and Kennard to trade at the deadline, plus the MLE, LLE, 9, 19.

I don’t know, it seems like trading Poeltl is a clear tanking move. Making win-now follow up moves like Wiggins doesn’t make a lot of sense. If we trade Poeltl our defense falls apart and we’re a bottom 7 team so what’s the point of Wiggins? If we are rolling with Olynyk and Aldama as our centers we will be terrible defensively. Combine that with a middling offense and that’s a recipe for a bottom 5 team.

[Zeno]

Alot think if we trade up its for Edey...I don't think thats the reason we would be trading up though....Edey is a 15-25 projected atm...We wouldn't need to move up that high to get Edey....

Knowing Masai track record and players he likes to target Salaun makes the most logical sense...I actually like Edey but the chances Masai trying to move into the top 10 to draft him makes little sense to me.

Definitely think it is Salaun.

[Clutch0z24]

Getting the #9 for Poeltl would be hilarious. We drop 1 pick for year and a half of Poeltl.

It would have to be for a brandon clarke and Zaire added too though. Another big and a young guy with potential added to the pick is fine with me. Even one of the 2. No problem there.

Poetl for 9+ garbage for contract purposes straight up is a lot less palatable.

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Doubt we get anything extra from the Grizz for Yak....That would be a better package than what we got for all NBA Siakam.

[Zeno]

Getting the #9 for Poeltl would be hilarious. We drop 1 pick for year and a half of Poeltl.

It would have to be for a brandon clarke and Zaire added too though. Another big and a young guy with potential added to the pick is fine with me. Even one of the 2. No problem there.

Poetl for 9+ garbage for contract purposes straight up is a lot less palatable.

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Doubt we get anything extra from the Grizz for Yak....That would be a better package than what we got for all NBA Siakam.

On the Game Theory podcast they suggested Yak,19,31 for Kanard, Konchar and 9 so I think people are dreaming a little on Yak’s value. But if the pick really hits, it is a winner regardless of it being seen as too much initially.

[M3tro]

Watching highlights of Salaun kinda reminds me of MPJ.

[kalel123]

How many times have we been told Raptors are trying to trade up or into a draft? Has yet to happen one time.

[Ackshun]

Alot think if we trade up its for Edey...I don't think thats the reason we would be trading up though....Edey is a 15-25 projected atm...We wouldn't need to move up that high to get Edey....

Knowing Masai track record and players he likes to target Salaun makes the most logical sense...I actually like Edey but the chances Masai trying to move into the top 10 to draft him makes little sense to me.

mocks aren't always accurate

Yep that is true but idk if Edey is the guy Masai is trading up for....Its not that i don't like Edey and wouldn't mind it i just look at Masai track record in guys he likes....Hes going for Salaun if i were to put my money on it.

Friendly reminder that we drafted Bruno 20th when he was a forecasted to go #50-60 or undrafted. Masai doesn’t think like us.


Also, if you google Bruno Caboclo, it auto fills “Bruno Caboclo two years away”