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Post#441 » by TerrenceClarke » Thu Jun 13, 2024 3:44 pm

Side Note this came in the Mail last week.

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I have JuJus cover as well.

to go with the FIRST Female on the cover Slam in my collection. Never forget Chamique was THAT Girl....

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Post#442 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Jun 13, 2024 5:44 pm

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DOT wrote:Only thing negative to say was a joke about how she was shooting worse than Jontay Porter, and he was trying to miss lol

She was fantastic last night though, I had the Sun game on with the Finals in the background, Reese was giving us the business

Marina Mabrey on the other hand...


Yeah I was flipping back and forth. Mabrey was terrible last night

I think this might have been Angel's most efficient game as a pro. I don't put too much stock into rookie efficiency because it's gonna be some rough nights, but she was dropping interior buckets against arguably the league's best defense. And rebounding your own misses ala Moses and Rodman is a skill too lol

Honestly, I feel bad because I quietly underestimated how well she would adjust to the physicality, but the rebounding, defense, all of itis top notch. I'll never doubt her again

Same here, I really underestimated her. I was watching NCAA tourney games with my mother-in-law who coached AAU and her daughter played in college. She tripled down on Angel Reese being a star player on talent. Honestly, I thought she was going to far and I’m gonna have to eat crow. I was def off on this one. I just hadn’t watched enough women’s basketball to put into perspective her motor and athleticism.

Long story..but I think a lot of new women’s bball fans have to hold space for the fact they haven’t watched a lot of women’s pro basketball yet.


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I think we all do. I'm not some expert either, I learn more and more every day.

I didn't think Angel would be already at this level. But I guarantee she knew already. That young woman has the dog in her. A bigger dog than I thought

And it's not a coincidence that she brought the heat against the Sun. She wanted to make sure she showed them that she's not scared to scrap
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Re: 2024 WNBA Season Discussion Thread 

Post#443 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Jun 13, 2024 5:47 pm

TerrenceClarke wrote:Side Note this came in the Mail last week.

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I have JuJus cover as well.

to go with the FIRST Female on the cover Slam in my collection. Never forget Chamique was THAT Girl....

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Dawn Staley Cover should be shipped soon. Since she is on the next issue.


Chamique!!! I hope she's doing well. I know she had some serious legal issues a few years back.

She should be a hall of famer.

And that cover of Angel is amazing. I'm telling yall, I'm shocked that Mattell hasn't signed her to some kind of deal to produce Angel Reese Barbie dolls. Little girls will eat that stuff up man yall already see how the little kids love her at the arenas.

She's going to be a superstar. It's not a matter of if.
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Post#444 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Jun 13, 2024 5:54 pm

TerrenceClarke wrote:I been following Reese since her Maryland Days since I watch alot of Maryland Basketball and go to their games from time to time. They are my one of my favorite college programs.

Reese is destined to be who she is, cause she bets on herself and has supreme confidence in her abilities.

Even tho on the exterior she comes off like a girly Diva... she is a rugged beast... she actually works hard at basketball.

People thought she was bugging leaving Maryland, but it literally was the best decision she could have made cause she was being held back there.

It was weird seeing her blow up at LSU, since I knew about her for a few years before LSU, and she was heavily under the national radar.

She has an Elite Motor and is a fighter....that will take her super far.

She will never have a pretty game... but I dont care. I like that her game is funky. Makes her more Unique.


I like her game as it is. She's an elite dirty work player. I love players like that, those are the ones that help you win championships.

Her confidence, humility, and maturity at this age is something else. She does not get rattled and frankly I see she gets a kick out of causing chaos in the paint and pissing people off :lol:

She is must watch TV.
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Post#445 » by sikma42 » Thu Jun 13, 2024 5:58 pm

Caitlin Clark’s response to questions about her name being weaponized in culture wars.

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She is really talented but this response leaves a lot to be desired. Almost better if she just said she didn’t want to discuss it.


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Post#446 » by TerrenceClarke » Thu Jun 13, 2024 6:17 pm

that response is disgusting. She basically is taking no responsibility that she can help calm the narrative down if she spoke up. Her silence is eye opening now that she basically comes out and says she wont address it.

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Post#447 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Jun 13, 2024 6:21 pm

sikma42 wrote:Caitlin Clark’s response to questions about her name being weaponized in culture wars.

Read on Twitter
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She is really talented but this response leaves a lot to be desired. Almost better if she just said she didn’t want to discuss it.


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This is a tough spot, and she looked very uneasy answering that question. I think she's being coached by her PR people to stay out of it. Which is smart, but I feel like she has a responsibility as one of the faces of the league to disavow the use of her name in this manner.

I feel like a lot of this will come to a head at All Star Weekend. She is going to have to make it known that she doesn't represent what these sickos are using her name for. She didn't ask for this, but unfortunately this is what the situation is. She has to stand up.
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2024 WNBA Season Discussion Thread 

Post#448 » by sikma42 » Thu Jun 13, 2024 6:25 pm

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sikma42 wrote:Caitlin Clark’s response to questions about her name being weaponized in culture wars.

Read on Twitter
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She is really talented but this response leaves a lot to be desired. Almost better if she just said she didn’t want to discuss it.


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This is a tough spot, and she looked very uneasy answering that question. I think she's being coached by her PR people to stay out of it. Which is smart, but I feel like she has a responsibility as one of the faces of the league to disavow the use of her name in this manner.

I feel like a lot of this will come to a head at All Star Weekend. She is going to have to make it known that she doesn't represent what these sickos are using her name for. She didn't ask for this, but unfortunately this is what the situation is. She has to stand up.

I don’t see it as that tough of a spot. If that’s how she feels then that’s cool. And if that’s the calculation she has made then that’s cool too.

But with all the attention and commercials and money..come questions like this. A lot of the wave that is leading to $$ is also leading to these questions. Bc of that she should answer them. This is a league full of LGBTQ people and when you don’t wanna comment on the abuse they are getting (which people often weaponize CCs name to do)..then that is a statement by itself.


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Post#449 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Jun 13, 2024 6:26 pm

TerrenceClarke wrote:that response is disgusting. She basically is taking no responsibility that she can help calm the narrative down if she spoke up. Her silence is eye opening now that she basically comes out and says she wont address it.

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I'm not going to be as hard on her, because she's young and seems really unsure how to deal with this, but she is going to have to speak on this one way or another. Cam already did and it didn't hurt her brand at all.

The same people who are using her as a prop are the same ones pushing hate rhetoric towards her teammates. Aliyah Boston has faced an appalling amount of racist attacks. She has a responsibility that she cannot run away from.

Paige is different. She knows that this stuff puts her family members at risk. So I don't expect her to be Paige, or Cam, or even Hailey Van Lith. But she needs to disavow this crap and make it clear that she doesn't stand for it. Because these people have run wild using her as a prop and it's not gonna stop until she says something
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Post#450 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Jun 13, 2024 6:34 pm

sikma42 wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
sikma42 wrote:Caitlin Clark’s response to questions about her name being weaponized in culture wars.

Read on Twitter
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She is really talented but this response leaves a lot to be desired. Almost better if she just said she didn’t want to discuss it.


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This is a tough spot, and she looked very uneasy answering that question. I think she's being coached by her PR people to stay out of it. Which is smart, but I feel like she has a responsibility as one of the faces of the league to disavow the use of her name in this manner.

I feel like a lot of this will come to a head at All Star Weekend. She is going to have to make it known that she doesn't represent what these sickos are using her name for. She didn't ask for this, but unfortunately this is what the situation is. She has to stand up.

I don’t see it as that tough of a spot. If that’s how she feels then that’s cool. And if that’s the calculation she has made then that’s cool too.

But with all the attention and commercials and money..come questions like this. A lot of the wave that is leading to $$ is also leading to these questions. Bc of that she should answer them. This is a league full of LGBTQ people and when you don’t wanna comment on the abuse they are getting (which people often weaponize CCs name to do)..then that is a statement by itself.


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I hear you, I'm just trying to put myself in her shoes, at that age. She is clearly being coached up by a PR firm. That response, while delivered uneasily, was definitely premeditated/planned.

Personally I don't think she's about any of that stuff just based on what I know of her and how her Black and Queer teammates interact with her. We would know by now if she was on some BS. Erica Wheeler would not be treating her like a little sister if she was. Black women don't play that sh*t.

But, to your point...she has a responsibility here. It's not just about her. Her teammates, her fellow players around the league need her to shut this down sooner than later. She cannot allow these disgusting people to use her as a tool to spread hate.

Also, there are young eyes watching her. Impressionable ones of all ethnicities looking at her like she looked at Maya Moore as a child.

Heavy is the head that wears the crown, with great power comes great responsibility, etc etc. She's gonna have to say something. Soon.
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Post#451 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Jun 13, 2024 6:41 pm

This is a pretty interesting contrast here. CC is now finding herself in the same position Michael Jordan found himself decades ago. Except this time she has bad faith actors abusing her name and likeness in the name of hatred. Michael never had that problem.

"*insert whoever you want* buy shoes too" cannot be her answer. Not for her being the top draw in the sport. She has to stand for the league and her fellow players.
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Post#452 » by TerrenceClarke » Thu Jun 13, 2024 6:57 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
TerrenceClarke wrote:that response is disgusting. She basically is taking no responsibility that she can help calm the narrative down if she spoke up. Her silence is eye opening now that she basically comes out and says she wont address it.

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I'm not going to be as hard on her, because she's young and seems really unsure how to deal with this, but she is going to have to speak on this one way or another. Cam already did and it didn't hurt her brand at all.

The same people who are using her as a prop are the same ones pushing hate rhetoric towards her teammates. Aliyah Boston has faced an appalling amount of racist attacks. She has a responsibility that she cannot run away from.

Paige is different. She knows that this stuff puts her family members at risk. So I don't expect her to be Paige, or Cam, or even Hailey Van Lith. But she needs to disavow this crap and make it clear that she doesn't stand for it. Because these people have run wild using her as a prop and it's not gonna stop until she says something




She knows how to speak up about aggressive play and complain about that, but wants to be tone def to all negative stuff surrounding her. She knows whats going on.

The reality is that she would upset the racists by speaking up for the women in the W and she knows that. I personally dont know whats up with her when it comes to race, but a white girl growing up in Iowa def knows what racism is towards blacks and stuff. No way she has not heard stuff in her life.

She literally was at a game where people from the Suns own fanbase turned on they own player in Harrington and started to boo her because she was mocking Clarke and playing her hard.

She is fully aware of everything that is going on. Its the loudest story in all of sports.... All the players in the W knows whats going on expect her...

this was weak sauce by her. She could have done better. you keep bringing up PR, but its actually GOOD PR if CC was would address it....cause it paints her in good light... Her brand reflects whats good about her.

the only negative would be from the racist fan base that follows her and brought the BS to the table.... being mad that she defends black women etc....
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Post#453 » by jc23 » Thu Jun 13, 2024 7:59 pm

All she has to do is say i dont support any form of hate speech. Even though haters do not need support to preach hate. Acting as if one interview solidifies an individuals character seems a bit premature.
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Post#454 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Jun 13, 2024 8:12 pm

TerrenceClarke wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
TerrenceClarke wrote:that response is disgusting. She basically is taking no responsibility that she can help calm the narrative down if she spoke up. Her silence is eye opening now that she basically comes out and says she wont address it.

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I'm not going to be as hard on her, because she's young and seems really unsure how to deal with this, but she is going to have to speak on this one way or another. Cam already did and it didn't hurt her brand at all.

The same people who are using her as a prop are the same ones pushing hate rhetoric towards her teammates. Aliyah Boston has faced an appalling amount of racist attacks. She has a responsibility that she cannot run away from.

Paige is different. She knows that this stuff puts her family members at risk. So I don't expect her to be Paige, or Cam, or even Hailey Van Lith. But she needs to disavow this crap and make it clear that she doesn't stand for it. Because these people have run wild using her as a prop and it's not gonna stop until she says something




She knows how to speak up about aggressive play and complain about that, but wants to be tone def to all negative stuff surrounding her. She knows whats going on.

The reality is that she would upset the racists by speaking up for the women in the W and she knows that. I personally dont know whats up with her when it comes to race, but a white girl growing up in Iowa def knows what racism is towards blacks and stuff. No way she has not heard stuff in her life.

She literally was at a game where people from the Suns own fanbase turned on they own player in Harrington and started to boo her because she was mocking Clarke and playing her hard.

She is fully aware of everything that is going on. Its the loudest story in all of sports.... All the players in the W knows whats going on expect her...

this was weak sauce by her. She could have done better. you keep bringing up PR, but its actually GOOD PR if CC was would address it....cause it paints her in good light... Her brand reflects whats good about her.

the only negative would be from the racist fan base that follows her and brought the BS to the table.... being mad that she defends black women etc....


I agree with you. It IS bad PR advice. But a lot of brand protection falls headfirst into cowardice, we see it often. Me, I would want my brand to be free and clear of anything related to racism and bigotry. She needs to speak up, absolutely, but I'm giving her the benefit of a doubt for right now.

I don't think you're wrong at all. She knows what's happening. Frankly, also her (i am assuming) following her PR team in lockstep speaks back to her lack of maturity that we've noted since she debuted. It takes some maturity -and- courage to stand up at the risk of being nailed down. She clearly isn't prepared to do that yet. Or if all. We'll see.

This isn't the end by a long shot so she will need to address this in full. She doesn't have to go full blown activist but she needs to remove herself from all of this culture war BS. Until she says so explicitly these clowns will not stop. And even then, they will turn on her and things are gonna get even uglier, but that's what needs to happen anyway. She can't use "I just wanna hoop" when her teammate is receiving racist threats.

She gets some room to figure this out for herself, but no matter what she has gotta stand for something. There's no in between here.
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Post#455 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Jun 13, 2024 8:15 pm

jc23 wrote:All she has to do is say i dont support any form of hate speech. Even though haters do not need support to preach hate. Acting as if one interview solidifies an individuals character seems a bit premature.


^This is what she needs to say. She doesn't have to deliver a speech or prove anything. Just disavow hate, declare solidarity with her league members and move on.
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Post#456 » by jc23 » Thu Jun 13, 2024 8:15 pm

Who was the female player who started the single legging trend? it reminds me when everyone copied MJ's forearm sweatband look.
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Post#457 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Jun 13, 2024 8:21 pm

jc23 wrote:Who was the female player who started the single legging trend? it reminds me when everyone copied MJ's forearm sweatband look.


I believe that A'ja, Angel etc are paying homage the late great Florence Joyner Griffin ala Flo Jo

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Post#458 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Jun 13, 2024 8:33 pm

Watch Angel's wingspan at work here on Bonner:

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Bruh. That's not some bum she did that too
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Post#459 » by TerrenceClarke » Thu Jun 13, 2024 8:54 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:Watch Angel's wingspan at work here on Bonner:

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Bruh. That's not some bum she did that too



If Reese gets rookie of the year…. It would be poetic justice for all the hate she constantly gets.
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Post#460 » by TerrenceClarke » Thu Jun 13, 2024 8:58 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
jc23 wrote:Who was the female player who started the single legging trend? it reminds me when everyone copied MJ's forearm sweatband look.


I believe that A'ja, Angel etc are paying homage the late great Florence Joyner Griffin ala Flo Jo

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I could be wrong though.


I don’t That’s it….

Here is an article on it tho

The debate is between Aja and Cooper. It’s a deep rabbit hole lol

More Than Swag: Analyzing the 'One Leg Sleeve' Effect


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