2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 5

[pharring]

19. Toronto Raptors – SG/SF Johnny Furphy – Kansas
Pairing Gradey Dick and Johnny Furphy with one another gives the Toronto Raptors two solid athletes on the perimeter who can both become three-point shooting threats on a nightly basis. However, the Raptors may take this opportunity to target depth for their frontcourt next to Kelly Olynyk and Jakob Poeltl. There is still no telling what Masai Ujiri and the Raptors' front office have planned this offseason.

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This was a fun read (the trades are detailed and realistic)... until I got to the #19 pick. Furphy? Sometimes I think writers don't have a lot of connection or insight to the Raptors FO so they go with a fun narrative choice. Edey is Canadian, so they pick him. Gradey is a big white former Jayhawk wing shooter, so the Raptors should draft the next big white former Jayhawk wing shooter (Furphy). It is lazy.

[CazOnReal]

If Sarpartr were to drop to 3, how would y'all feel about parting with the Pacers 26 pick and 19 to move up (assuming such a deal would be accepted by Houston/if a 3 teamer would work)?

We don’t own the Pacers pick.

We literally do own it, it was one of the 3 picks we got out of it.

[BoyzNTheHood]

If Sarpartr were to drop to 3, how would y'all feel about parting with the Pacers 26 pick and 19 to move up (assuming such a deal would be accepted by Houston/if a 3 teamer would work)?

We don’t own the Pacers pick.

We literally do own it, it was one of the 3 picks we got out of it.

Yeah, someone else already explained it. Read the thread.

[WuTang_CMB]

fwiw doug smith says toronto wants to get into the top 10 , was told they had a guy they were targeting in that range

Damn, so we’re trading out completely. I wonder who the target is.

Ticket Gaines

[BoyzNTheHood]

fwiw doug smith says toronto wants to get into the top 10 , was told they had a guy they were targeting in that range

Damn, so we’re trading out completely. I wonder who the target is.

Ticket Gaines

He’s the GOATS!

Spoiler:

The S stands for SCRUB

[CazOnReal]

fwiw doug smith says toronto wants to get into the top 10 , was told they had a guy they were targeting in that range

It's Tidjane Salaun

[grant101]

fwiw doug smith says toronto wants to get into the top 10 , was told they had a guy they were targeting in that range

It's Tidjane Salaun

That would be my guess as well, and I hate it. Matas is also very much a Masai type.

[bozothepope]

I love all this trade up talk because you know it’ll never happen. Every year, same rumours. Have we ever traded up? Not in the first round, right? I remember the Vasquez for a 2nd (Norm) and a future 1st (OG), but never a 1st on draft night. What a trade, btw.

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

fwiw doug smith says toronto wants to get into the top 10 , was told they had a guy they were targeting in that range

It's Tidjane Salaun

That would be my guess as well, and I hate it. Matas is also very much a Masai type.

What about Cody Williams

[TimeForChange]

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[BoyzNTheHood]

fwiw doug smith says toronto wants to get into the top 10 , was told they had a guy they were targeting in that range

It's Tidjane Salaun

That would be my guess as well, and I hate it. Matas is also very much a Masai type.

Matas would be incredible. I'd rank him 2nd on my board, and that's just because I'm believing in Sarr's potential.

[CazOnReal]

It's Tidjane Salaun

That would be my guess as well, and I hate it. Matas is also very much a Masai type.

What about Cody Williams

I could see them wanting him but I don't know if he'll fall that far.

[UnbelievablyRAW]

I wouldn’t want to give up our few tradable assets to get Salune tbh. I’m not seeing the high level upside

I’m guessing it might be a Poeltl move to get the 9 and assets and then draft Edey at 19 if he’s there (which from reporting he won’t be)

[UnbelievablyRAW]

Not seeing the Matas hype either. Would have to believe in his shot turning around and he’s not really an on ball guy or amazing defender. Springy athlete though and tall for what it’s worth.

Out of the wings/forwards in the lottery he’s near the bottom for me tbh

Zach
Holland
Cody
Matas
Tidjane

[Dalek]

I think I understand why teams would hesitate on Dillingham because I actually hadn't noticed it before. Here are his measurements:

6'1 without shoes
6'3 wingspan
164 lbs

I actually did a double take on the weight. I think the only guy I can think of playing at that height and weight is Trae Young. Even Dennis Schroeder is about 175 lbs which is 10 lbs heavier. Those two both play high level PG as in running the offense and making difficult passes and reads. Dillingham is more like a gunner with some passing skill but you know his first instinct is to shoot.

Another guy I thought of as a similar player type for Dillingham, De'Aaron Fox. He is a couple inches taller and 185 lbs. Can Dillingham add 20 lbs in a few years?

I think if Dillingham falls it is because people don't trust his size. It is just tough to start in the NBA and be a small PG, unless you have outlier skills.

Sacramento probably takes Dillingham as a Malik Monk replacement

Maybe they do, but what do you think of a Fox/Dillingham backcourt with Sabonis anchoring the defense. Sounds like the defense takes a nosedive. I do like Ja'Kobe Walter there a bit better.

[Dalek]

Damn, so we’re trading out completely. I wonder who the target is.

Ticket Gaines

He’s the GOATS!

Spoiler:

The S stands for SCRUB

If Ticket Gaines goes lotto should they add to his already great nickname? Big Ticket Gaines? Scratch and Win Ticket Gaines?

[WuTang_CMB]

fwiw doug smith says toronto wants to get into the top 10 , was told they had a guy they were targeting in that range

It's Tidjane Salaun

100%

[CazOnReal]

I wouldn’t want to give up our few tradable assets to get Salune tbh. I’m not seeing the high level upside

I’m guessing it might be a Poeltl move to get the 9 and assets and then draft Edey at 19 if he’s there (which from reporting he won’t be)

More likely they're aiming for a 3 team deal involving Bruce Brown and the 19th pick.

I cannot fathom trading Poeltl unless they have a center replacement lined up, and I mean a known quantity like Hartenstein or Claxton. Much as I like Missi or Ware, they haven't proven anything at the NBA level.

[Dalek]

I wouldn’t want to give up our few tradable assets to get Salune tbh. I’m not seeing the high level upside

I’m guessing it might be a Poeltl move to get the 9 and assets and then draft Edey at 19 if he’s there (which from reporting he won’t be)

I am 95% sure that Toronto if trading up it would be to get Zach Edey because we have a history of reaching on drafts. Secondly, we obviously value Canadian guys. Thirdly, we showed our hand in putting only his interview on Raptors' socials. It is not like Edey needs publicity.

If we dump Poeltl as part of it, then it clears Edey's runway to start. Honestly, it would explain the huge number of undrafted guys we seem to be working out as opposed to guys in the 19-31 range.

[DreamTeam09]

I wouldn’t want to give up our few tradable assets to get Salune tbh. I’m not seeing the high level upside

I’m guessing it might be a Poeltl move to get the 9 and assets and then draft Edey at 19 if he’s there (which from reporting he won’t be)

More likely they're aiming for a 3 team deal involving Bruce Brown and the 19th pick.

I cannot fathom trading Poeltl unless they have a center replacement lined up, and I mean a known quantity like Hartenstein or Claxton. Much as I like Missi or Ware, they haven't proven anything at the NBA level.

This would be my sentiment