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Post#1701 » by ArthurVandelay » Sun Jun 16, 2024 10:48 am

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Appostis wrote:Saw some posts on Terrence Shannon jr.

Older prospect but...now that he's been cleared of charges might not be too bad as a second round pick


No way Shannon makes it to the second round. He was the best player in NCAA this year. The guy can outright ball. He was one of the oldest players but he ate college players for lunch everyday.

I wouldn’t mind taking him at 19 if he is there. If we talk about upside guys this guy has the alpha in him. Think Antman type of Alpha. Not saying he is Antman level talent but he is highly underrated in this draft mainly cause of the age and rape allegations.


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Post#1703 » by Brinbe » Sun Jun 16, 2024 11:47 am

Really wouldn't mind any of the Cs at 19 whether it's Edey, Ware or Missi.
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Post#1704 » by ATLTimekeeper » Sun Jun 16, 2024 11:58 am

Brinbe wrote:Really wouldn't mind any of the Cs at 19 whether it's Edey, Ware or Missi.


Some team has made it known they will take Edey ahead of our pick, thus the interest in moving up into the lottery. So Portland, Miami and LAL have to be leapfrogged. Not much different than when they wanted Cason Wallace and OKC jumped up and took him, but were happy to take Gradey Dick. Our draft history suggests they don't like to make bold moves at the draft and just move onto the next option.
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Post#1705 » by TGM » Sun Jun 16, 2024 12:48 pm

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Appostis wrote:Saw some posts on Terrence Shannon jr.

Older prospect but...now that he's been cleared of charges might not be too bad as a second round pick


No way Shannon makes it to the second round. He was the best player in NCAA this year. The guy can outright ball. He was one of the oldest players but he ate college players for lunch everyday.

I wouldn’t mind taking him at 19 if he is there. If we talk about upside guys this guy has the alpha in him. Think Antman type of Alpha. Not saying he is Antman level talent but he is highly underrated in this draft mainly cause of the age and rape allegations.


He’s 24

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Same can be said about Edey, Knetch, Jaimie Jr. , Desmond Bane.
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Post#1706 » by Pericles » Sun Jun 16, 2024 12:49 pm

I like the class for big men. I wouldn’t be upset if we selected Tyler Smith, Zach Edey, Kel’el Ware, Yves Missi, or Kyle Filipowski. Vastly different players, but all have some clear NBA skills already.

With Edey specifically, his combine athletic numbers were eye opening. Normally, I would be in the camp who would claim he has no NBA future. But I have to admit he tested very agile for an NBA centre and displayed a consistent deep range shot. Sure he was unguarded, but at 7’4, those deep jumpers will be mostly unguarded anyway.

I now wonder if he might be a Billy Beane/Moneyball type player in the NBA. A player who is discriminated against because of bias, he doesn’t look the part of a modern nba centre, but will excel when in the right role.
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Post#1707 » by Brinbe » Sun Jun 16, 2024 12:52 pm

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Brinbe wrote:Really wouldn't mind any of the Cs at 19 whether it's Edey, Ware or Missi.


Some team has made it known they will take Edey ahead of our pick, thus the interest in moving up into the lottery. So Portland, Miami and LAL have to be leapfrogged. Not much different than when they wanted Cason Wallace and OKC jumped up and took him, but were happy to take Gradey Dick. Our draft history suggests they don't like to make bold moves at the draft and just move onto the next option.

Yeah, I def woudn't expend additional assets trying to majorly move up for Edey unless you're only moving up like a spot or two with the Magic or Bulls and it's a minor move ala Vince/Jamison.

There are def players I would move up for like a Holland or Topic if they drop into the early teens but that again would depend on the assets being moved. One would hope a lightly used Bruce Brown or Boucher would suffice, but I doubt it. :lol:
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Post#1708 » by RoteSchroder » Sun Jun 16, 2024 12:53 pm

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Brinbe wrote:Really wouldn't mind any of the Cs at 19 whether it's Edey, Ware or Missi.


Some team has made it known they will take Edey ahead of our pick, thus the interest in moving up into the lottery. So Portland, Miami and LAL have to be leapfrogged. Not much different than when they wanted Cason Wallace and OKC jumped up and took him, but were happy to take Gradey Dick. Our draft history suggests they don't like to make bold moves at the draft and just move onto the next option.


Silver is a big time a-hole.

We came last in the 4-way tiebreaker, getting 19 instead of 16. Then we don’t jump into the top 4 and lose our own pick altogether.

I guess he saw how the MLSE could raise ticket prices after putting out a terrible product and thought our franchise didn’t need to be any good to generate revenue.
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Post#1709 » by ATLTimekeeper » Sun Jun 16, 2024 1:02 pm

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Brinbe wrote:Really wouldn't mind any of the Cs at 19 whether it's Edey, Ware or Missi.


Some team has made it known they will take Edey ahead of our pick, thus the interest in moving up into the lottery. So Portland, Miami and LAL have to be leapfrogged. Not much different than when they wanted Cason Wallace and OKC jumped up and took him, but were happy to take Gradey Dick. Our draft history suggests they don't like to make bold moves at the draft and just move onto the next option.

Yeah, I def woudn't expend additional assets trying to majorly move up for Edey unless you're only moving up like a spot or two with the Magic or Bulls and it's a minor move ala Vince/Jamison.

There are def players I would move up for like a Holland or Topic if they drop into the early teens but that again would depend on the assets being moved. One would hope a lightly used Bruce Brown or Boucher would suffice, but I doubt it. :lol:


I support moving up if you really believe in the player. I just don't think the Raptors do.

To me it sounds like they're just looking to fill out their bench with this draft, like how they traded the pick to get Obgaji. So for them, yeah, if Brown could get it done then why not move up to get the guy they have a little higher, because Brown is going to be pushing for a buyout the second they guarantee his deal and we'll be in another Dragic situation.
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Post#1710 » by Brinbe » Sun Jun 16, 2024 1:15 pm

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Some team has made it known they will take Edey ahead of our pick, thus the interest in moving up into the lottery. So Portland, Miami and LAL have to be leapfrogged. Not much different than when they wanted Cason Wallace and OKC jumped up and took him, but were happy to take Gradey Dick. Our draft history suggests they don't like to make bold moves at the draft and just move onto the next option.

Yeah, I def woudn't expend additional assets trying to majorly move up for Edey unless you're only moving up like a spot or two with the Magic or Bulls and it's a minor move ala Vince/Jamison.

There are def players I would move up for like a Holland or Topic if they drop into the early teens but that again would depend on the assets being moved. One would hope a lightly used Bruce Brown or Boucher would suffice, but I doubt it. :lol:


I support moving up if you really believe in the player. I just don't think the Raptors do.

To me it sounds like they're just looking to fill out their bench with this draft, like how they traded the pick to get Obgaji. So for them, yeah, if Brown could get it done then why not move up to get the guy they have a little higher, because Brown is going to be pushing for a buyout the second they guarantee his deal and we'll be in another Dragic situation.

Yep, that sounds right. Really does depend on how the board shakes out on draft night and who's potentially available/what draft partners want to move back, but they're in a position in a flat draft where there will invariably be a bunch of interesting options if they just stand pat. And I know people will hate it, but if they slightly move back with a desperate team and gain more assets, that should be another consideration.

That's definitey something they should/will consider with that 2nd rounder when teams come calling.

But really, who knows what the hell to expect with this front office after these past few years.

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The known list of players to have worked out with the Raptors:

Jaden Bediako, Seton Hall*
Reece Beekman, Virginia
Keion Brooks Jr., Washington
Marcus Domask, Illinois
Zach Edey, Purdue
Jesse Edwards, West Virginia*
Boogie Ellis, USC
Tristan Enaruna, Cleveland State*
Ticket Gaines, Providence
Joseph Girard III, Clemson
Coleman Hawkins, Illinois
Keshad Johnson, Arizona
Dillon Jones, Weber State
Tyler Kolek, Marquette
Xaivian Lee, Princeton
Emanuel Miller, TCU
Jonathan Mogbo, San Francisco
Josh Oduro, Providence
Tyrese Samuel, Florida
Cam Spencer, UConn
Jaylon Tyson, Cal
Santiago Vescovi, Tennessee*
Hason Ward, Iowa State
Kel’el Ware, Indiana*
Jahmir Young, Maryland
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Post#1711 » by TimeForChange » Sun Jun 16, 2024 1:17 pm

Starting to think all this smoke of Edey going to Toronto is just that, smoke.

I think the raps are hoping a team takes Edey ahead of them so another player they really wants, falls to them.
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Post#1712 » by ArthurVandelay » Sun Jun 16, 2024 1:24 pm

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No way Shannon makes it to the second round. He was the best player in NCAA this year. The guy can outright ball. He was one of the oldest players but he ate college players for lunch everyday.

I wouldn’t mind taking him at 19 if he is there. If we talk about upside guys this guy has the alpha in him. Think Antman type of Alpha. Not saying he is Antman level talent but he is highly underrated in this draft mainly cause of the age and rape allegations.


He’s 24

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Same can be said about Edey, Knetch, Jaimie Jr. , Desmond Bane.


Edey just turned 22 in April

Jaime Jaquez Jr won’t be 24 until February 2025, in his second nba season

Demond Bane turned 22 right around the draft.


Your closest example is Knecht who is a year younger.

Scottie is younger than Terrence Shannon Jr.

Shannon took the 5th year COVID eligibility plus he was an older freshman. He’s 24 in July. He old for a draft pick.
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Post#1713 » by TimeForChange » Sun Jun 16, 2024 1:32 pm

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Post#1714 » by ATLTimekeeper » Sun Jun 16, 2024 1:37 pm

TimeForChange wrote:Starting to think all this smoke of Edey going to Toronto is just that, smoke.

I think the raps are hoping a team takes Edey ahead of them so another player they really wants, falls to them.


Given that they're drafting 19th in a draft where it's known that every team has a wildly different board than each other, I doubt that's intentional.

But, Masai does have a mandate to promote Canadian basketball. And the Raptors are a free agent outpost. Any time the Raptors can say they like a Canadian, they will. I think the Edey rumours are legit because Masai publicly stated they're looking for a C prospect for next year. Just like he publicly stated they wanted to move one of their picks and later did. Also Edey has a small list of teams he's worked out for. He's not worried about sliding to the 2nd round.
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Post#1715 » by WuTang_CMB » Sun Jun 16, 2024 1:41 pm

TOR isn't leaking anything. Scotto is just putting it out there because he worked out for us and he's Canadian. Not really smoke.
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Post#1716 » by pharring » Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:12 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:TOR isn't leaking anything. Scotto is just putting it out there because he worked out for us and he's Canadian. Not really smoke.


Agreed. It's narrative. Not smoke.
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Post#1717 » by WuTang_CMB » Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:16 pm

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Post#1718 » by Pointgod » Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:25 pm

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Post#1719 » by ArthurVandelay » Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:30 pm

That ESPN mock draft game is fun

Just had to choose between McCain and Edey at 19

Went McCain then picked Holmes at 31

That would be a very good draft
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Post#1720 » by HangTime » Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:49 pm

ArthurVandelay wrote:That ESPN mock draft game is fun

Just had to choose between McCain and Edey at 19

Went McCain then picked Holmes at 31

That would be a very good draft


They should turn it into an actual event, where you pick the entire draft order.

Give the top 3 people a prize.

They could also have a big board challenge (where do you see the this class at the end of it's playing days).
Every year they could revisit it, to see see who was right, and who way off.

Who has the real scouting eye.

Huge engagement from the audience,
In a draft this strange, where boards vary wildly, it seems like a no-brainer.

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