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Re: 2023-2024 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#921 » by Stanford » Fri Jun 21, 2024 7:50 pm

If Morey is selecting in the first round, he's just going to take the top-ten guy who falls. So this list of workouts makes sense.
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Post#922 » by stormi » Fri Jun 21, 2024 8:26 pm

Smitten for wings.

Tyson at 16
Scheierman at 41
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Post#923 » by Negrodamus » Fri Jun 21, 2024 8:31 pm

The longer I think about it, I feel like this pick is destined for a quality player whose contract is weighing down a cap strapped team.
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Post#924 » by Kobblehead » Fri Jun 21, 2024 11:49 pm

I've talked myself into Flowers in the 2nd round. Go for broke.
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Post#925 » by 76ciology » Sat Jun 22, 2024 2:20 pm

Maybe just go after a scorer 2 in the draft like Tyson or Shannon, then use the cap space for role playing 3&4.
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Post#926 » by Kobblehead » Sat Jun 22, 2024 2:45 pm

I have a feeling that Cody Williams is going to drop. He's coming off an underwhelming freshman season at Colorado and he tested pretty mediocrely at the combine (especially compared to his brother Jalen).

Would you be excited about getting him at #16?

The T-Mac hype was complete dogshhh, I think he more closely resembles Zhaire Williams.
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Post#927 » by Negrodamus » Sat Jun 22, 2024 5:07 pm

Adem Bona is secretly a C that fits what I’m looking for from a prospect. Almost 70% FT (huge improvement from Fr year), 38% on 2FG jumpers, 11% Ast%. His numbers on defense are obviously amazing, but the upside on offense makes him an eyebrow raiser. Just watched the Givony clip highlighting his athleticism and effort. At minimum, could be a Capela type player, but I see upside for more.
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Post#928 » by Kobblehead » Sat Jun 22, 2024 5:18 pm

The knock on Bona is that he's more of a junior-aged player than his sophomore label makes him look and that he measured in shorter than expected. For instance, at 6'8.25" he has identical height to Tristan Da Silva. He's a freak athlete and he has good arm length so it shouldn't be too big a deal, but it's worth considering.

Bona is the type of athlete that should be a defensive force, though. And obviously a major lob threat on offense.
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Post#929 » by Lovetron Joe » Sat Jun 22, 2024 6:16 pm

Based on size, production and the ongoing problems the Sixers have when Joel is off the floor, the Sixers should pick Zach Edey. While he lacks lateral quickness on defense, he is the best offensive rebounder in the draft. He is huge and physical with great touch around the basket. He is also the best screener I have seen in college hoops. He started playing basketball relatively late in life. His skill level has gotten significantly better every year he has played. A lot of the players mentioned in the middle of the draft will never play. Getting a two time college player of the year in the middle of a very weak draft will turn out to be a steal.
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Post#930 » by Negrodamus » Sat Jun 22, 2024 6:40 pm




Sleeper of the draft. Not saying he'll be a star but he'll be around for a long time. He sounds like a very smart guy (which I think is an underrated skill set: Tatum, Brown, Holiday, White, Porzingis, Doncic, Irving... all sound incredibly smart imo). Blue chip prospect who wasted away in Stanford for two year. Found a way to carve out a role at UNC. Love how he's continued to improve his game. I've been pounding the table for him, but watching this video made me want to reiterate it.
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Post#931 » by Kobblehead » Sun Jun 23, 2024 9:55 pm

So what GM has the courage to take Bronny and then extort the Lakers for like 2 future 1st rounders?
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Post#932 » by Negrodamus » Sun Jun 23, 2024 10:01 pm

Dan Gilbert will take him and ensure that his career never takes off while in Cleveland.

Edit: meant never takes off
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Post#933 » by Kobblehead » Sun Jun 23, 2024 10:26 pm

Nah, Cavs already have too many munchkins.
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Post#934 » by Jailblazers7 » Sun Jun 23, 2024 11:52 pm

Edey’s improvement curve is what has me most interested in him as a prospect. He didn’t grow up playing the sport & has made huge improvements to his skills/movement every year. He’s a hard worker with a track record of progress, which is one of the most valuable traits for a prospect.
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Post#935 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Mon Jun 24, 2024 12:17 am

Personally I think Edey is the better center prospect between him and Clingan. I get the hype about Clingan, but I think you're going to get more with Edey. We'll see five years from now how this all works out.
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Post#936 » by Negrodamus » Mon Jun 24, 2024 12:19 am

Edey feels like a guy who will shock everyone and go to ten. Very polarizing but all you need is one team.
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Post#937 » by 76ciology » Mon Jun 24, 2024 4:08 am

Every year, there seem to be a guy or a couple of guys who are downplayed by the media in the draft (Cam Thomas, Franz Wagner, Walker Kessler, Keegan Murray and etc.) For me, Edey is one of the guys this year. I've said before that, in my opinion, it's not ridiculous to consider him the top player in this draft.

If there’s a team who can treat him atleast as a starter, he’d have a very high chance to be an allstar.
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Post#938 » by 76ciology » Mon Jun 24, 2024 4:16 am

I watched the Purdue vs. UConn game, and it was the only game where I saw both Clingan and Murray play an entire match.

Edey played NBA-level defense in this game. He wasn't just doing a hard drop or playing goalie under the rim like some giants. He dove for a couple of loose balls, one early in the game.

He played almost the entire game and didn’t show signs of fatigue, like having his hands on his knees as Embiid used to do. However, he wasn’t making his shots like in the first half and wasn’t as active on defense. Nevertheless, he played okay for me and is clearly better than Clingan.

UConn locked all windows and doors on the other guys and let Edey do damage against Clingan. That's what you get when you have a single superstar surrounded by role players. I think if Edey played with Dillinger or Sheppard, they could have won this game.

Edey also played with a below-the-rim forward at the 4 and three short, unathletic guys who reminded me of our setup here. His teammates weren't long enough to rotate quickly, provide secondary help, or avoid backdoor cuts. I thought Edey would have looked much better on defense with a better-structured team.

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Post#939 » by 76ciology » Mon Jun 24, 2024 4:21 am

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:Personally I think Edey is the better center prospect between him and Clingan. I get the hype about Clingan, but I think you're going to get more with Edey. We'll see five years from now how this all works out.


What is interesting to me is how Sarr is overrated in this draft. He can't play center, and if you play him at power forward, you'd have to pair him with a stretch 5. Most stretch 5s are not good defensive players, so it's like subtraction by addition. Offensively, I don't know if he can score against big small forwards like Tatum or Kawhi either.

He seems like he falls into the same category like Marvin Bagley, Wiseman and Evan Mobley to me.
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Post#940 » by 76ciology » Mon Jun 24, 2024 4:28 am

I also like analyst said how its not like bigs would step out and switch on every screens. They play drop defense on most of the game except for like a handful of possessions and these handful of possessions is mostly when games gets close which isnt that often.

And I think its one thing to have a big with 9’ standing reach and a big with almost 10’ of standing reach playing drop defense.
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