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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1321 » by amcoolio » Sun Jun 23, 2024 12:23 am

I think Ayton-level IMPACT (not comparing him to Ayton, but his level of impact on winning and playing for an NBA team) is his floor. Unless he comes out draining 3's like Lopez can now, he won't grow higher than that. But Edey works incredibly hard and is also durable, so its possible. He should go late lottery. OKC could really use his skillset off the bench and Chet can play with him too
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1322 » by CptCrunch » Sun Jun 23, 2024 3:41 am

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tester551 wrote:It seems like if Edey ends up being a below average starting C, your evaluation of him is more wrong than theirs.... You don't think he's even an NBA player.

My projection of Edey (and Clingan for that matter) is a below average starting C to a high end backup.
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Reading comprehension is important. No where does it state that I am 'more right' if Edey is just a role player.

I have already stated my opinion of Edey multiple times. In the median case, he isn't in a NBA player. If he can survive on defense; he can a be an efficient bench scorer who ruins your offense by becoming the offense, a starter on a bad team, a bench center for a good one. But the probability of this hapening is quite low by my estimation. Just for reference, here is my project for Edey. He has a very fat tail of good, but his median outcome is incredibly low.

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But it is clear that Edey fans are too scared to put a stake in the sand.


It is pretty hilarious that you would attempt to make your oponion look scientific by posting a graph that isn't based on any actual data.

I think Edey is going to be good. Just for reference I drew a picture of him dunking on Anthony Davis. About to post it here. LMAO!


Keeps on resorting to personal attack. I'm out of this thread and will be back next year to call out fools. Edey delusion is out of control.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1323 » by GoBobs » Sun Jun 23, 2024 7:25 am

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Reading comprehension is important. No where does it state that I am 'more right' if Edey is just a role player.

I have already stated my opinion of Edey multiple times. In the median case, he isn't in a NBA player. If he can survive on defense; he can a be an efficient bench scorer who ruins your offense by becoming the offense, a starter on a bad team, a bench center for a good one. But the probability of this hapening is quite low by my estimation. Just for reference, here is my project for Edey. He has a very fat tail of good, but his median outcome is incredibly low.

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But it is clear that Edey fans are too scared to put a stake in the sand.


It is pretty hilarious that you would attempt to make your oponion look scientific by posting a graph that isn't based on any actual data.

I think Edey is going to be good. Just for reference I drew a picture of him dunking on Anthony Davis. About to post it here. LMAO!


Keeps on resorting to personal attack. I'm out of this thread and will be back next year to call out fools. Edey delusion is out of control.


Also funny that after demanding others go on record with thier position your made up graph says every outcome including semi-star and all star is possible. Hedge your bets much.

Most likey: you are a jealous hater who seeks to satiate your own insecurities by putting others down
Likely: you will continue to make up nonsense
Least likely: you will get a chance to take your victory lap calling out the people who actually had the balls to predict an outcome instead of saying all outcomes are possible and making a stupid graph about it
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1324 » by GoBobs » Sun Jun 23, 2024 7:31 am

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Reading comprehension is important. No where does it state that I am 'more right' if Edey is just a role player.

I have already stated my opinion of Edey multiple times. In the median case, he isn't in a NBA player. If he can survive on defense; he can a be an efficient bench scorer who ruins your offense by becoming the offense, a starter on a bad team, a bench center for a good one. But the probability of this hapening is quite low by my estimation. Just for reference, here is my project for Edey. He has a very fat tail of good, but his median outcome is incredibly low.

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But it is clear that Edey fans are too scared to put a stake in the sand.


It is pretty hilarious that you would attempt to make your oponion look scientific by posting a graph that isn't based on any actual data.

I think Edey is going to be good. Just for reference I drew a picture of him dunking on Anthony Davis. About to post it here. LMAO!


Keeps on resorting to personal attack. I'm out of this thread and will be back next year to call out fools. Edey delusion is out of control.


Also crying about personal attacks and stating you can't wait to call others out as fools in the same post. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1325 » by FrodoBaggins » Sun Jun 23, 2024 11:05 am

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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1326 » by 8305 » Sun Jun 23, 2024 12:33 pm

My hot take Edey will evolve into a top ten center in the League and will be remembered as the best player from this draft. He will be a force on offense and a better than average defender.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1327 » by JD45 » Sun Jun 23, 2024 7:13 pm

8305 wrote:My hot take Edey will evolve into a top ten center in the League and will be remembered as the best player from this draft. He will be a force on offense and a better than average defender.


I think that is close to my expected case.

So much talk about Edey not being able to guard on the perimeter, which very few centers can do anyway. But who will guard Edey? I have yet to see any good answer to that. Edey could put an end to the small ball, 5 out trend in the NBA. My upside case for him is MVP and Hall of Fame.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1328 » by ItsDanger » Sun Jun 23, 2024 7:39 pm

I believe the decision on whether to draft Edey is the biggest decision of this draft. If he blows up, not easy to replicate in other drafts due to his uniqueness physically. A team could have an advantage for several years before adjustment. If he busts or is just a role player, no big deal then in a weak draft especially. Its a tough call in top 10 or so but the risk of missing out on an outlier increases thereafter.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1329 » by MalonesElbows » Sun Jun 23, 2024 9:28 pm

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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1330 » by typedrat » Sun Jun 23, 2024 9:43 pm

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8305 wrote:My hot take Edey will evolve into a top ten center in the League and will be remembered as the best player from this draft. He will be a force on offense and a better than average defender.


I think that is close to my expected case.

So much talk about Edey not being able to guard on the perimeter, which very few centers can do anyway. But who will guard Edey? I have yet to see any good answer to that. Edey could put an end to the small ball, 5 out trend in the NBA. My upside case for him is MVP and Hall of Fame.


More or less my take, especially when you consider that he would be, by some metrics, the best college player other than Hank Gathers to ever be so dominant at the NCAA level and not have a Hall of Fame career.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1331 » by Blazinaway » Sun Jun 23, 2024 10:18 pm

I got no skin in this Edey game but this will be a "fun" thread to revisit as his NBA career unfolds
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1332 » by Diop » Mon Jun 24, 2024 1:54 am

its his work ethic that encourages me. the reason he did so well in the sprints is that he clearly works his ass off.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1334 » by FrodoBaggins » Mon Jun 24, 2024 3:02 am

Zach might be the best screener in the NBA from day one. He's incredibly strong and technically sound; he leans his weight into his picks and makes heavy contact. He rarely if ever slips or ghost screens. Notice how adept he is at finding the right angles, re-screening, and Varejao screening/flipping the screen. He's also amazing at carving out space and laying those Gortat screens in the paint for his penetrating teammates.

For what it's worth, Sam Vecenie rated him as the best screener in all of NCAA D1 basketball:

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Though posting up is Edey’s bread and butter, he has significant potential as a screener. I think Edey was the best screener in college basketball this season. He sets physical picks when he makes contact, then opens his hips well to roll into space and make a big target. He was good at re-screening and flipping his angle to get his
guards space to shoot or pass back to him.


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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1335 » by BigGargamel » Mon Jun 24, 2024 4:46 am

:lol: I am convinced you are on Zach Edey's personal payroll. There is no other reason to be constantly hyping up the guy like you have been doing for months.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1336 » by dolphinatik » Mon Jun 24, 2024 4:01 pm

Edey is clearly a bust. Slow, can't spread the floor and doesn't fit with today's NBA. He will be out of the league in 3 years. Any team that takes him will be wasting a pick.(public)

I hope my heat takes him 15 (private)
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1337 » by JRoy » Mon Jun 24, 2024 4:22 pm

dolphinatik wrote:Edey is clearly a bust. Slow, can't spread the floor and doesn't fit with today's NBA. He will be out of the league in 3 years. Any team that takes him will be wasting a pick.(public)

I hope my heat takes him 15 (private)


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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1338 » by Norm2953 » Mon Jun 24, 2024 4:45 pm

Edey might just be what Scoot needs to be an effective player.

I hope Portland gets him at 14
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1339 » by Big J » Mon Jun 24, 2024 4:59 pm

Norm2953 wrote:Edey might just be what Scoot needs to be an effective player.

I hope Portland gets him at 14


Those dudes would rule the G League.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1340 » by JRoy » Mon Jun 24, 2024 5:28 pm

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Norm2953 wrote:Edey might just be what Scoot needs to be an effective player.

I hope Portland gets him at 14


Those dudes would rule the G League.


Ayton looks like he has never seen anyone set a screen in his life.
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