Trade Ideas

[JonFromVA]

https://www.si.com/nba/cavaliers/news/cleveland-cavaliers-urged-major-nba-draft-trade-sacramento-kings

I don't love the trade, maybe the Kings can throw in Ellis?

Sasha Vezenkov? Didn't we give him away to the Kings in the first place....

[jbk1234]

https://www.si.com/nba/cavaliers/news/cleveland-cavaliers-urged-major-nba-draft-trade-sacramento-kings

I don't love the trade, maybe the Kings can throw in Ellis?

Sasha Vezenkov? Didn't we give him away to the Kings in the first place....

He was talking about playing in Europe next season so I don't know what the cap implications of that would be. Apparently, Brown didn't give him enough run due to defensive concerns. Kings fans seem to think that Sasha was passable on that end and unfairly singled out. In defense of Brown, you probably can't play Sasha and Sabonis together. I can't imagine he's worse than Niang on that end

[JonFromVA]

https://www.si.com/nba/cavaliers/news/cleveland-cavaliers-urged-major-nba-draft-trade-sacramento-kings

I don't love the trade, maybe the Kings can throw in Ellis?

Sasha Vezenkov? Didn't we give him away to the Kings in the first place....

He was talking about playing in Europe next season so I don't know what the cap implications of that would be. Apparently, Brown didn't give him enough run due to defensive concerns. Kings fans seem to think that Sasha was passable on that end and unfairly singled out. In defense of Brown, you probably can't play Sasha and Sabonis together. I can't imagine he's worse than Niang on that end

Yeah, a euro star doesn't come over here to warm benches. I remember them being very excited about him.

[KuruptedCav]

https://www.si.com/nba/cavaliers/news/cleveland-cavaliers-urged-major-nba-draft-trade-sacramento-kings

I don't love the trade, maybe the Kings can throw in Ellis?

Sasha Vezenkov? Didn't we give him away to the Kings in the first place....

Isaiah Mobley pick


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[axeman23]

https://clutchpoints.com/players-cavs-target-trade-2024-nba-draft?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR0uPqnzz1udH6U8V9KvCxtCNPY1c5bdTcUps0P8KilLs5PBmGMGN2_bO68_aem_AZGWGg2nMKeFuH74-H4Tk1CqocS_wfYeNy3xMn1W89Au22C7J99bnamV0oFbD2-EPzojRyiw4zXobqz4I1emzxhN

This article did not do a good job of convincing me that trading up is the right move lol

Especially when it mentioned possibly trading JA to get there. Sounds like your typical "1 step forward, 2 steps back" move if that were the case. I like Knecht, but not at the cost of Allen, and there seems to be at least a decent chance De Silva is still around for our own pick. If it takes minimal value to trade up for Williams, why not? But JA isn't minimal value.

[JujitsuFlip]

https://clutchpoints.com/players-cavs-target-trade-2024-nba-draft?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR0uPqnzz1udH6U8V9KvCxtCNPY1c5bdTcUps0P8KilLs5PBmGMGN2_bO68_aem_AZGWGg2nMKeFuH74-H4Tk1CqocS_wfYeNy3xMn1W89Au22C7J99bnamV0oFbD2-EPzojRyiw4zXobqz4I1emzxhN

This article did not do a good job of convincing me that trading up is the right move lol

Especially when it mentioned possibly trading JA to get there. Sounds like your typical "1 step forward, 2 steps back" move if that were the case. I like Knecht, but not at the cost of Allen, and there seems to be at least a decent chance De Silva is still around for our own pick. If it takes minimal value to trade up for Williams, why not? But JA isn't minimal value.

Yeah, we'll see what happens. Would be cool to have a head coach before the draft but idk what trajectory Koby is looking at.

I'd really love to have the Mitchell extension done ASAP.

[axeman23]

https://clutchpoints.com/players-cavs-target-trade-2024-nba-draft?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR0uPqnzz1udH6U8V9KvCxtCNPY1c5bdTcUps0P8KilLs5PBmGMGN2_bO68_aem_AZGWGg2nMKeFuH74-H4Tk1CqocS_wfYeNy3xMn1W89Au22C7J99bnamV0oFbD2-EPzojRyiw4zXobqz4I1emzxhN

This article did not do a good job of convincing me that trading up is the right move lol

Especially when it mentioned possibly trading JA to get there. Sounds like your typical "1 step forward, 2 steps back" move if that were the case. I like Knecht, but not at the cost of Allen, and there seems to be at least a decent chance De Silva is still around for our own pick. If it takes minimal value to trade up for Williams, why not? But JA isn't minimal value.

Yeah, we'll see what happens. Would be cool to have a head coach before the draft but idk what trajectory Koby is looking at.

I'd really love to have the Mitchell extension done ASAP.

I'd still really love to have the Mitchell TRADE done ASAP... But yes, i agree. Whatever happens, it would be good to get it out of the way early before too many opportunities fall off the board.

[JujitsuFlip]

Especially when it mentioned possibly trading JA to get there. Sounds like your typical "1 step forward, 2 steps back" move if that were the case. I like Knecht, but not at the cost of Allen, and there seems to be at least a decent chance De Silva is still around for our own pick. If it takes minimal value to trade up for Williams, why not? But JA isn't minimal value.

Yeah, we'll see what happens. Would be cool to have a head coach before the draft but idk what trajectory Koby is looking at.

I'd really love to have the Mitchell extension done ASAP.

I'd still really love to have the Mitchell TRADE done ASAP... But yes, i agree. Whatever happens, it would be good to get it out of the way early before too many opportunities fall off the board.

Kind of scares me there's no word yet.

I'd say if he doesn't agree to the extension by the morning of June 30th, I'd trade him.

[JonFromVA]

So, we have a very narrow window of opportunity coming up to trade our first round pick and attach a contract to it to bring in help. I believe we have to technically trade the draft rights after we make the selection, so for another team to get the player they want, we'd have to work out the deal before the pick and then pull off the trade after.

I've said before I'd like to keep the pick, that I think as we head in to the luxury tax, we'll need cheap players to fill out the roster with and some should have some upside if we want to sustain success; but tbd what the Cavs want.

Speaking of the luxury tax, does anyone know if we can aggregate Isaac with the pick in a S&T?

Draft rights don't have any trade value, so we could potentially snag a veteran and cut some payroll.

[JujitsuFlip]

So, we have a very narrow window of opportunity coming up to trade our first round pick and attach a contract to it to bring in help. I believe we have to technically trade the draft rights after we make the selection, so for another team to get the player they want, we'd have to work out the deal before the pick and then pull off the trade after.

I've said before I'd like to keep the pick, that I think as we head in to the luxury tax, we'll need cheap players to fill out the roster with and some should have some upside if we want to sustain success; but tbd what the Cavs want.

Speaking of the luxury tax, does anyone know if we can aggregate Isaac with the pick in a S&T?

Draft rights don't have any trade value, so we could potentially snag a veteran and cut some payroll.

Not sure, that is a good question. I don't see why not.

If Wiggins and Agbaji are any indicator, Cavs are quick to sign their picks then figure out a couple weeks later they wanna trade em LOL

[KuruptedCav]

So, we have a very narrow window of opportunity coming up to trade our first round pick and attach a contract to it to bring in help. I believe we have to technically trade the draft rights after we make the selection, so for another team to get the player they want, we'd have to work out the deal before the pick and then pull off the trade after.

I've said before I'd like to keep the pick, that I think as we head in to the luxury tax, we'll need cheap players to fill out the roster with and some should have some upside if we want to sustain success; but tbd what the Cavs want.

Speaking of the luxury tax, does anyone know if we can aggregate Isaac with the pick in a S&T?

Draft rights don't have any trade value, so we could potentially snag a veteran and cut some payroll.

Shouldn’t be an issue, the prohibition is on salary aggregation. If not, structuring as two deals where you send draft rights for #20 for the rights to random 38 year old Russian prospect drafted in 2006 shouldn’t be an issue.


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[toooskies]

So, we have a very narrow window of opportunity coming up to trade our first round pick and attach a contract to it to bring in help. I believe we have to technically trade the draft rights after we make the selection, so for another team to get the player they want, we'd have to work out the deal before the pick and then pull off the trade after.

I've said before I'd like to keep the pick, that I think as we head in to the luxury tax, we'll need cheap players to fill out the roster with and some should have some upside if we want to sustain success; but tbd what the Cavs want.

Speaking of the luxury tax, does anyone know if we can aggregate Isaac with the pick in a S&T?

Draft rights don't have any trade value, so we could potentially snag a veteran and cut some payroll.

Shouldn’t be an issue, the prohibition is on salary aggregation. If not, structuring as two deals where you send draft rights for #20 for the rights to random 38 year old Russian prospect drafted in 2006 shouldn’t be an issue.


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A team cannot negotiate with another team's free agents before July 1. So an agreement to sign-and-trade Okoro cannot be valid until that date and cannot be completed until after free agent signings are officially legal.

The best you could do is work out a contingency where you agree to a trade in principle using, say, Strus + LeVert's salary, but you wait on finishing the trade to see if Okoro would rather take Strus's place.

Of course, that puts Summer League games in a strange place where #20 doesn't get to play in those.

Better to stick to LeVert and Niang in these kinds of salary match deals.

[JonFromVA]

So, we have a very narrow window of opportunity coming up to trade our first round pick and attach a contract to it to bring in help. I believe we have to technically trade the draft rights after we make the selection, so for another team to get the player they want, we'd have to work out the deal before the pick and then pull off the trade after.

I've said before I'd like to keep the pick, that I think as we head in to the luxury tax, we'll need cheap players to fill out the roster with and some should have some upside if we want to sustain success; but tbd what the Cavs want.

Speaking of the luxury tax, does anyone know if we can aggregate Isaac with the pick in a S&T?

Draft rights don't have any trade value, so we could potentially snag a veteran and cut some payroll.

Not sure, that is a good question. I don't see why not.

If Wiggins and Agbaji are any indicator, Cavs are quick to sign their picks then figure out a couple weeks later they wanna trade em LOL

Well, we drafted Wiggins knowing that's who Flip Saunders liked and his rookie salary helped make the numbers work. Agbaji was just Ainge being greedy and taking everything we'd let him take. He kicked tires on Agbaji and dumped him.

We can just draft whoever it is we like and try to trade him later, but he may have negative value to the GM we want to trade him to. Draft picks tend to depreciate once driven off the lot.

[JujitsuFlip]

So, we have a very narrow window of opportunity coming up to trade our first round pick and attach a contract to it to bring in help. I believe we have to technically trade the draft rights after we make the selection, so for another team to get the player they want, we'd have to work out the deal before the pick and then pull off the trade after.

I've said before I'd like to keep the pick, that I think as we head in to the luxury tax, we'll need cheap players to fill out the roster with and some should have some upside if we want to sustain success; but tbd what the Cavs want.

Speaking of the luxury tax, does anyone know if we can aggregate Isaac with the pick in a S&T?

Draft rights don't have any trade value, so we could potentially snag a veteran and cut some payroll.

Not sure, that is a good question. I don't see why not.

If Wiggins and Agbaji are any indicator, Cavs are quick to sign their picks then figure out a couple weeks later they wanna trade em LOL

Well, we drafted Wiggins knowing that's who Flip Saunders liked and his rookie salary helped make the numbers work. Agbaji was just Ainge being greedy and taking everything we'd let him take. He kicked tires on Agbaji and dumped him.

We can just draft whoever it is we like and try to trade him later, but he may have negative value to the GM we want to trade him to. Draft picks tend to depreciate once driven off the lot.

Yup, people want the idea of the pick, not actually the player lol

[jbk1234]

GS is reportedly shopping Wiggins. I wonder if LeVert, Niang, and some seconds gets it done.

[ijspeelman]

GS is reportedly shopping Wiggins. I wonder if LeVert, Niang, and some seconds gets it done.

In all honesty, Wiggins scares me bc he just feels like a more expensive taller LeVert (with better, but still below league avg efficiency and less skilled passer). He's owed 30 mil all the way up to potentially 2026-27 (where he will most likely accept his player option).

I think he works, but I'd almost just want a Moses Moody from them instead.

[JujitsuFlip]

GS is reportedly shopping Wiggins. I wonder if LeVert, Niang, and some seconds gets it done.

I'd do it, he would start at SF.

[mcfly1204]

GS is reportedly shopping Wiggins. I wonder if LeVert, Niang, and some seconds gets it done.

In all honesty, Wiggins scares me bc he just feels like a more expensive taller LeVert (with better, but still below league avg efficiency and less skilled passer). He's owed 30 mil all the way up to potentially 2026-27 (where he will most likely accept his player option).

I think he works, but I'd almost just want a Moses Moody from them instead.

If we consider Wiggins, I think we'd want to consider Jerami Grant as well.

[JujitsuFlip]

GS is reportedly shopping Wiggins. I wonder if LeVert, Niang, and some seconds gets it done.

In all honesty, Wiggins scares me bc he just feels like a more expensive taller LeVert (with better, but still below league avg efficiency and less skilled passer). He's owed 30 mil all the way up to potentially 2026-27 (where he will most likely accept his player option).

I think he works, but I'd almost just want a Moses Moody from them instead.

If we consider Wiggins, I think we'd want to consider Jerami Grant as well.

I would almost prefer him but idk if he's being shopped. Ik he also disliked not being one of the top options when he was on other contenders.

[jbk1234]

GS is reportedly shopping Wiggins. I wonder if LeVert, Niang, and some seconds gets it done.

In all honesty, Wiggins scares me bc he just feels like a more expensive taller LeVert (with better, but still below league avg efficiency and less skilled passer). He's owed 30 mil all the way up to potentially 2026-27 (where he will most likely accept his player option).

I think he works, but I'd almost just want a Moses Moody from them instead.

If we consider Wiggins, I think we'd want to consider Jerami Grant as well.

Grant will cost No. 20.