Potential Zach Trade Partners? 24/25 Edition

[jnrjr79]

That is pretty consistent with the other things that are being reported, what appears to be happening / not happening (e.g., DDR negotiations) and what we know about AKME.

And I don’t doubt that, if suddenly things look great with Giddey, the Bulls and Zach might ultimately re-evaluate whether or not to try to “mutually uncouple” later on in the season. But for right now, probably just reflecting the reality that there doesn’t look like there is a decent (non asset attaching, salary freeing up) LaVine trade to be had right now.

It may well play out this way, but I'm not putting much stock in what's available now for Zach. Maybe we'll see something on draft night, but if not, it sure seems like the bigger FA dominos, most namely Paul George, are going to have to fall before we see what happens with Zach. Someone is going to have to lose the game of musical chairs first before we see what kind of a market develops.

[AshyLarrysDiaper]

Rehabbing Zach’s value alongside Giddey is great in theory, but there’s no part of me that believes AKME has the discipline to sell high while Zach’s putting up numbers. It’s more likely that they’ll set his price unreasonably high (again) until the situation degrades via injury or discord (again).

[Chi town]

Rehabbing Zach’s value alongside Giddey is great in theory, but there’s no part of me that believes AKME has the discipline to sell high while Zach’s putting up numbers. It’s more likely that they’ll set his price unreasonably high (again) until the situation degrades via injury or discord (again).

Hahahah. So true.

As long as DDR is gone I’m happy. Zach stays or goes is fine just get an asset. Don’t give an asset.

[Red8911]

Saw a video where KC said bulls may try to mend Zach fences because of his great fit with Giddey. He does fit well with Giddey. That would be great. If that was a real possibility I'd go Salaun at 11. Maybe Holland.

He also said that trading Zach is still a priority.

[kodo]

Haynes:

I know right now the priority for the Chicago Bulls is moving Zach LaVine, and they are putting everything else on pause. And that is including Demar DeRozan’s contract situation. He will be a free agent by the end of the weekend, but at this point Chicago and DeRozan can work out an extension. I’ve been told there have been no talks at this moment on an extension.
...
Phrasing it like that leads me to believe that there is a deal out there that can be had — that they believe that they can do — but it might not be received favorably, particularly by the Bulls fanbase.

Looks like there's some possibility we won't have either guy on the team. Lavine trade a priority now, not next season. Resigning Demar not a priority. I think a rebuild is the right move, keep our protected pick in the Flagg draft and let Coby & Giddey just play ball without the Demar training wheels every time the score gets close.

[WindyCityBorn]

KC Johnson saying Zach is good fit to play with Giddey…

https://www.nbcsportschicago.com/nba/chicago-bulls/bulls-analysis/why-zach-lavine-fits-josh-giddey-for-bulls/571754/

[WindyCityBorn]

tweet]

Read on Twitter

?s=46&t=i4qswurNzuGmsF_XFBrOZg[/tweet]

[cubd8]

KC Johnson saying Zach is good fit to play with Giddey…

https://www.nbcsportschicago.com/nba/chicago-bulls/bulls-analysis/why-zach-lavine-fits-josh-giddey-for-bulls/571754/

Hilarious. All it took was acquiring a point guard who regressed this past season and benched in the playoffs for the need to repair the relationship with Zach.

[kodo]

KC Johnson saying Zach is good fit to play with Giddey…

https://www.nbcsportschicago.com/nba/chicago-bulls/bulls-analysis/why-zach-lavine-fits-josh-giddey-for-bulls/571754/

The tidbits that I found interesting:
- "But NBC Sports Chicago reported in February that LaVine never specifically asked to be traded."
- "the Bulls engaged with the Detroit Pistons leading up to the Feb. 8 trade deadline"

The Pistons being the main potential partner fit my hunch that he would be going to the opposite of a contending, heavily over cap team like the Lakers. Detroit is projected to have $61M in cap space...we're looking to salary dump him not get equivalent basketball value back.

[WindyCityBorn]

KC Johnson saying Zach is good fit to play with Giddey…

https://www.nbcsportschicago.com/nba/chicago-bulls/bulls-analysis/why-zach-lavine-fits-josh-giddey-for-bulls/571754/

The tidbits that I found interesting:
- "But NBC Sports Chicago reported in February that LaVine never specifically asked to be traded."
- "the Bulls engaged with the Detroit Pistons leading up to the Feb. 8 trade deadline"

The Pistons being the main potential partner fit my hunch that he would be going to the opposite of a contending, heavily over cap team like the Lakers. Detroit is projected to have $61M in cap space...we're looking to salary dump him not get equivalent basketball value back.

Almost impossible to salary dump a contract that large.

[Red8911]

tweet]

Read on Twitter

?s=46&t=i4qswurNzuGmsF_XFBrOZg[/tweet]

If Giddey needs the ball to create and isn’t a strong defender then how the hell is he a good fit with Zach ? Lol. Can you make it work, maybe but don’t tell me they fit together like a glove.

Zach is who he is as a player and isn’t going to magically play the way you guys think he can play. Reading some nonsense on this board lately.

[jnrjr79]

KC Johnson saying Zach is good fit to play with Giddey…

https://www.nbcsportschicago.com/nba/chicago-bulls/bulls-analysis/why-zach-lavine-fits-josh-giddey-for-bulls/571754/

The tidbits that I found interesting:
- "But NBC Sports Chicago reported in February that LaVine never specifically asked to be traded."
- "the Bulls engaged with the Detroit Pistons leading up to the Feb. 8 trade deadline"

The Pistons being the main potential partner fit my hunch that he would be going to the opposite of a contending, heavily over cap team like the Lakers. Detroit is projected to have $61M in cap space...we're looking to salary dump him not get equivalent basketball value back.

Because of their self-imposed luxury tax constraints, the Bulls are going to need to salary dump one of Zach or DeMar, if they don't want to let DeMar walk for nothing. In that context, I'm fine with dumping Zach for some low-level draft consideration if the Bulls do in fact find a more meaningful trade for DeMar.

At this point, that might be the better path to acquiring some value than letting DeMar walk and trying to get a good return for Zach. DeMar would be useful to a team that wants to contend, and outside of Philly, pretty much any team in that situation is going to need to trade for him to be able to pay him more than the MLE, but they won't need to reach a salary as high as Zach's, so I could very much see this being the better way to go.

[jnrjr79]

tweet]

Read on Twitter

?s=46&t=i4qswurNzuGmsF_XFBrOZg[/tweet]

If Giddey needs the ball to create and isn’t a strong defender then how the hell is he a good fit with Zach ? Lol. Can you make it work, maybe but don’t tell me they fit together like a glove.

Zach is who he is as a player and isn’t going to magically play the way you guys think he can play. Reading some nonsense on this board lately.

He's a good offensive fit with Zach because Zach is good off-ball and can play at a high pace like Giddey likes to.

Defensively - yep, that's going to suck.

[jordanwilliams6]

tweet]

Read on Twitter

?s=46&t=i4qswurNzuGmsF_XFBrOZg[/tweet]

If Giddey needs the ball to create and isn’t a strong defender then how the hell is he a good fit with Zach ? Lol. Can you make it work, maybe but don’t tell me they fit together like a glove.

Zach is who he is as a player and isn’t going to magically play the way you guys think he can play. Reading some nonsense on this board lately.

He's a good offensive fit with Zach because Zach is good off-ball and can play at a high pace like Giddey likes to.

Defensively - yep, that's going to suck.

Zach has never proven he can play effectively off ball and that’s the issue. It’s irrelevant whether his skillset could do so, Zach himself doesn’t want to.

You really think Zach is just going to take a back seat to Giddey and run around like Klay? He doesn’t see himself as that player and didn’t even try to do it with Demar. When he came back last season and tried to ‘fit in’, it was basically just him standing around being passive on the perimeter.

[ChettheJet]

Haynes:

I know right now the priority for the Chicago Bulls is moving Zach LaVine, and they are putting everything else on pause. And that is including Demar DeRozan’s contract situation. He will be a free agent by the end of the weekend, but at this point Chicago and DeRozan can work out an extension. I’ve been told there have been no talks at this moment on an extension.
...
Phrasing it like that leads me to believe that there is a deal out there that can be had — that they believe that they can do — but it might not be received favorably, particularly by the Bulls fanbase.

Looks like there's some possibility we won't have either guy on the team. Lavine trade a priority now, not next season. Resigning Demar not a priority. I think a rebuild is the right move, keep our protected pick in the Flagg draft and let Coby & Giddey just play ball without the Demar training wheels every time the score gets close.

Here's a prime example of why you shouldn't put any weight behid what guys with a webcam put out there.

Haynes is saying right now the priority is moving Zach, sounds like he is channeling the Bulls offices. Then explain why the very first thing they did was trade Caruso for Giddey. Does the guy need a dictionary to know what Priority means?

Teams don't put anything out to the public for fear it will skewer a deal. Agents want their guys in certain markets and on certain teams, most times to set up another client to get where they should be. So they tip the hungry little wanna be Woj's knowing they will spread the story they want told. there are just too many posters everywhere who fall into the trap of seeking out rumors that are in agreement with their thinking or they're so influenced by reading something they take it as fact. There are no consequences for these internet writers if they post something completely false, made up or off the wall. They just move on to the next fairy tale and never look back

[jnrjr79]

If Giddey needs the ball to create and isn’t a strong defender then how the hell is he a good fit with Zach ? Lol. Can you make it work, maybe but don’t tell me they fit together like a glove.

Zach is who he is as a player and isn’t going to magically play the way you guys think he can play. Reading some nonsense on this board lately.

He's a good offensive fit with Zach because Zach is good off-ball and can play at a high pace like Giddey likes to.

Defensively - yep, that's going to suck.

Zach has never proven he can play effectively off ball and that’s the issue. It’s irrelevant whether his skillset could do so, Zach himself doesn’t want to.

You really think Zach is just going to take a back seat to Giddey and run around like Klay? He doesn’t see himself as that player and didn’t even try to do it with Demar. When he came back last season and tried to ‘fit in’, it was basically just him standing around being passive on the perimeter.

I think Zach is out of here sooner rather than later, so I don't really care about his fit with Giddey, but yes, I do think Zach has shown he can be effective off-ball.

[jnrjr79]

Haynes:

I know right now the priority for the Chicago Bulls is moving Zach LaVine, and they are putting everything else on pause. And that is including Demar DeRozan’s contract situation. He will be a free agent by the end of the weekend, but at this point Chicago and DeRozan can work out an extension. I’ve been told there have been no talks at this moment on an extension.
...
Phrasing it like that leads me to believe that there is a deal out there that can be had — that they believe that they can do — but it might not be received favorably, particularly by the Bulls fanbase.

Looks like there's some possibility we won't have either guy on the team. Lavine trade a priority now, not next season. Resigning Demar not a priority. I think a rebuild is the right move, keep our protected pick in the Flagg draft and let Coby & Giddey just play ball without the Demar training wheels every time the score gets close.

Here's a prime example of why you shouldn't put any weight behid what guys with a webcam put out there.

Haynes is saying right now the priority is moving Zach, sounds like he is channeling the Bulls offices. Then explain why the very first thing they did was trade Caruso for Giddey. Does the guy need a dictionary to know what Priority means?

Teams don't put anything out to the public for fear it will skewer a deal. Agents want their guys in certain markets and on certain teams, most times to set up another client to get where they should be. So they tip the hungry little wanna be Woj's knowing they will spread the story they want told. there are just too many posters everywhere who fall into the trap of seeking out rumors that are in agreement with their thinking or they're so influenced by reading something they take it as fact. There are no consequences for these internet writers if they post something completely false, made up or off the wall. They just move on to the next fairy tale and never look back

Whether the Bulls made some other move available to them in the moment has no bearing on how much they prioritize moving Zach.

[Chi town]

Haynes:

I know right now the priority for the Chicago Bulls is moving Zach LaVine, and they are putting everything else on pause. And that is including Demar DeRozan’s contract situation. He will be a free agent by the end of the weekend, but at this point Chicago and DeRozan can work out an extension. I’ve been told there have been no talks at this moment on an extension.
...
Phrasing it like that leads me to believe that there is a deal out there that can be had — that they believe that they can do — but it might not be received favorably, particularly by the Bulls fanbase.

Looks like there's some possibility we won't have either guy on the team. Lavine trade a priority now, not next season. Resigning Demar not a priority. I think a rebuild is the right move, keep our protected pick in the Flagg draft and let Coby & Giddey just play ball without the Demar training wheels every time the score gets close.

Here's a prime example of why you shouldn't put any weight behid what guys with a webcam put out there.

Haynes is saying right now the priority is moving Zach, sounds like he is channeling the Bulls offices. Then explain why the very first thing they did was trade Caruso for Giddey. Does the guy need a dictionary to know what Priority means?

Teams don't put anything out to the public for fear it will skewer a deal. Agents want their guys in certain markets and on certain teams, most times to set up another client to get where they should be. So they tip the hungry little wanna be Woj's knowing they will spread the story they want told. there are just too many posters everywhere who fall into the trap of seeking out rumors that are in agreement with their thinking or they're so influenced by reading something they take it as fact. There are no consequences for these internet writers if they post something completely false, made up or off the wall. They just move on to the next fairy tale and never look back

Now watch Zach get traded tonight!

I agree with you. I think many of us are worn with AK. We can’t trust him after all the losses and inaction. It seems obvious what to do now but JR meddles and wants playoff profits without the lux tax.

[Chi town]

I’d love to see DDR walk and a motivated Zach with a chip on his shoulder to show the league what he has. I still think part of the tension is Zach taking a back seat to DDR.

[DuckIII]

Nope. Dont do it. Because this ownership will not commit to tanking properly. Just stop going to games, watch games or read Bulls articles which are paid by Bulls ownership. Make Jerry hurt where it hurts most for him. Money.

Yeah we aren’t tanking. If we were Caruso would have been dealt for picks instead of Giddey who will promptly require and extension. But we are rebuilding (right? please?) which probably means more losing for a bit.

Retool, rebuild, whatever. They are making changes to the roster and still want to win.

They don’t want to tank, that’s for sure. As for “winning” we’ll see what they do with DDR. I’d bet a steak dinner he’s gone.